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Old 03-19-2010, 01:01 AM   #31
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Re: Razz $3/6 - Did He Pair Often Enough to Raise?

Thank you for the heads up, folks, now I see what you are talking about.

I think I agree that this 'feature' is not really a feature. I will look at fixing this up tomorrow morning.

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Old 03-19-2010, 02:38 AM   #32
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Re: Razz $3/6 - Did He Pair Often Enough to Raise?

Seriously, this is the most productive thread hijack I have ever seen.
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Old 03-19-2010, 06:24 AM   #33
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Re: Razz $3/6 - Did He Pair Often Enough to Raise?

Now I'm on Steve's ****-list for maybe screwing up his feature...
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Old 03-19-2010, 12:23 PM   #34
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Now I'm on Steve's ****-list for maybe screwing up his feature...
Don't sweat it. There's always the Razzmaster 2000.

The "feature" is mostly useful with wider ranges anyway. Let's say you have a moderately-loose villain and you want to assign him a range: Any 3-card Seven or better and sometimes 3-card Eights. You can use a range of (8-7-6). This means that only half of his Eights are counted, which shades the range appropriately toward better hands, though not perfectly.

A better way to do it would be to make the range (8-5-6) + (5-8-6), which means he's only playing 865 or better. The other syntax allows him to play half his 876s.
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Old 03-19-2010, 05:16 PM   #35
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Re: Razz $3/6 - Did He Pair Often Enough to Raise?

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Now I'm on Steve's ****-list for maybe screwing up his feature...
Not a list you wanna be in the top 40 of, lol. Btw, I didn't mean that the tool was a fail because of this issue, but that users were often getting failed results without realizing. I'd be just as happy with a warning on the web page as changing the tool. Steve's proposed fix is the best option of all ldo.
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Old 03-19-2010, 09:00 PM   #36
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Well, I went over my razz code this morning. That was fun. Feeling the usual mix of pride/horror at looking at old code. I have a tentative fix for the problem, but I want to get some code cleanup/optimizations done while I'm in there.

I'm on twitter.com/propokertools if you want to know when this is complete.

Thanks for your patience,
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Old 03-20-2010, 06:17 PM   #37
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In the process of working on this, I've come across some interesting issues around generating razz hands with the 'correct' probabilities. I'll make a separate post about it or post to my blog when my thinking on this is clearer.

My brain hurts so I'm going to take a breather - my poor family must think I'm crazy.

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Old 03-22-2010, 02:25 PM   #38
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In the process of working on this, I've come across some interesting issues around generating razz hands with the 'correct' probabilities. I'll make a separate post about it or post to my blog when my thinking on this is clearer.

My brain hurts so I'm going to take a breather - my poor family must think I'm crazy.

Thanks,
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update plz after brain swelling subsides. kthx
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Old 03-22-2010, 07:59 PM   #39
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I am at the point where I know what I need to do with the razz simulator. Now I just need to find time to do it. In order to prevent complete brain explosion, I am likely to complete the bulk of the work on my beta -> main site migration project first, then go on to this razz issue, and then finally continue work on the downloadable simulator.

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Old 04-06-2010, 01:46 AM   #40
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Working on this right now. Should have something up tomorrow or by the end of the week at the latest.
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Old 04-06-2010, 05:57 PM   #41
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My fix for the razz 'ordering' problem is now online. I posted about it here:

http://pokercoder.blogspot.com/2010/04/fixing-razz.html

Thanks all, for bringing this to my attention.

- bachfan, ProPokerTools dude

P.S. Sorry electrical for breaking your 'feature'.
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