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Old 06-11-2012, 08:08 PM   #1
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Pot Limit Razz hand



Effective stacks are $180.

I complete to $3.50 with a58, villian calls.

4th: I bet $6, villian calls.

5th: I bet $20, villian calls.

6th: I bet $50, villian calls.

7th: ?

Villian is very loose aggressive, not a winning player. What's my best play on 7th here?
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:00 AM   #2
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Re: Pot Limit Razz hand

From my math you have a half pot size bet left. Don't like the way you played 6th, but as played c/c is not an option, he's not going to be bluffing with showdown value. C/f is an option, but with only a half pot size bet left I would image he's calling with the T so just shove for value.

6th street play is more intersting. Curious why you bet that size? If you intend on barelling 7th as a bluff, bet smaller on 6th so that you have more left on 7th to increase fold equity. If you aren't going to bluff 7th, either bet pot and hope he folds 6th or check and hope you hit.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:29 AM   #3
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Re: Pot Limit Razz hand

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From my math you have a half pot size bet left. Don't like the way you played 6th, but as played c/c is not an option, he's not going to be bluffing with showdown value. C/f is an option, but with only a half pot size bet left I would image he's calling with the T so just shove for value.

6th street play is more intersting. Curious why you bet that size? If you intend on barelling 7th as a bluff, bet smaller on 6th so that you have more left on 7th to increase fold equity. If you aren't going to bluff 7th, either bet pot and hope he folds 6th or check and hope you hit.
Thanks for replying Loading. After having had a few hours to think about this, i'll give my take on the hand.


I'm going to have to disagree with your premonition that he's never bluffing here. Given this, I don't feel like C/F is going to ever be the best line.

If i'm not folding, there are 3 options.

1: I check. This definitly indicates a ton of weakness, and if he bricked 7th there is a reasonable chance he takes a stab at this, especially given his wild nature.

2: I go all in. I don't like this option, I don't see him calling with a ten here 100% of the time. Betting every street has created a strong image for my hand.

3: I make a small bet, to induce a bluff raise which i believe he is capable of.

If the goal is getting all his chips in the middle, I don't see option 2 being the most profitable. I'm just not sure how often he's calling for another $100 with a ten.

I think a larger bet on 6th would have been more appropriate.

Thoughts?

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Old 06-12-2012, 06:02 AM   #4
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Re: Pot Limit Razz hand

You have half pot left, inducing isn't (usually) gonna work.

Fortunately, as described this villain has 87 at best so check and get ready to collect money.
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Old 06-13-2012, 03:49 PM   #5
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Re: Pot Limit Razz hand

Meh, if his T were a Q then yeah c/c. But most people don't turn showdown value into a bluff, especially a Ten, so c/c is pretty gross. He should be calling a shove with it though since he only has to be right 25% of the time and you could easily have paired the 5 or 6.

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1: I check. This definitly indicates a ton of weakness, and if he bricked 7th there is a reasonable chance he takes a stab at this, especially given his wild nature.
If he thinks your check is weak, why would he bet a Ten? He has to be feeling like his ten is probably good at that point, and he certainly isn't going to be value betting it.
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