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Low draw leak? Low draw leak?

03-29-2015 , 05:36 PM
Poker Stars $0.04/$0.08 Limit Stud Hi/Lo $0.01 Ante - 6 players - View hand 2683376
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3rd Street: (1.5 SB)
Seat 1: xx xx Q ____Seat 1 folds
Hero: 8 5 A ___Hero completes
Seat 3: xx xx 2 ____Seat 3 brings in for $0.02____Seat 3 calls
Seat 4: xx xx 8 ____Seat 4 calls____Seat 4 calls
Seat 5: xx xx 4 ____Seat 5 folds
Seat 6: xx xx 8 ____Seat 6 folds

4th Street: (4.5 SB) (3 players)
Hero: 8 5 A 7 ___Hero bets___Hero calls
Seat 3: xx xx 2 T ____Seat 3 folds
Seat 4: xx xx 8 3 ____Seat 4 raises

5th Street: (4.25 BB) (2 players)
Hero: 8 5 A 7 K ___Hero checks___Hero calls
Seat 4: xx xx 8 3 A ____Seat 4 bets

6th Street: (6.25 BB) (2 players)
Hero: 8 5 A 7 K Q ___Hero checks___Hero calls
Seat 4: xx xx 8 3 A 6 ____Seat 4 bets

7th Street: (8.25 BB) (2 players)
Hero: 8 5 A 7 K Q A ___Hero checks___Hero calls
Seat 4: xx xx 8 3 A 6 xx____Seat 4 bets

Forgive the nano stakes - I am trying to build $10 into $1000 mainly playing Stud 8. Currently on $60.

No reads, just sat down. I'll just post the hand and say what I was thinking later.
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03-29-2015 , 07:24 PM
I fold 5th. When he raises 4th he's repping 4 lo 4 flush. He can't raise you with anything else. Your showing a better lo or you have a pair of Aces. When he hits good and you brick I fold on 5th. Doesn't seem like a profitable spot to me. Your a smart player though interested in hearing your thought process
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03-29-2015 , 09:00 PM
I fold Fifth unless I have specific history with villain.
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03-29-2015 , 09:08 PM
At 4c/8c, unfortunately, he could be raising just because he feels like it. Without knowing anything about the villain it's hard to say (there are people who play 'normally' at these stakes but there are plenty of button mashers also)

That said, if you think you can only win half, then you have to fold. If you think 1 pair might be good for high then you can continue. Because on 5th, your half is 2.125 BB and you're going to have to pay 2-3 bb to get there, implying that you're going to have to get there (*and* win your half) more than 50% of the time. That's pretty close. But if you can scoop even like 1/10 times that tips the scales and calling is OK.
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03-30-2015 , 01:50 AM
IMO Most probable (33)8, and as a fish I played 10c-20c from time to time on PS.
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03-30-2015 , 04:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fold&Forget
IMO Most probable (33)8, and as a fish I played 10c-20c from time to time on PS.
Spoiler:
you are exactly correct.
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03-30-2015 , 04:44 AM
3rd street:
First of all I think it was fine to complete with an ace up to try to steal the antes on 3rd street. If i get called I have something resembling a hand to make something with and it is not that dead yet.


4th street:
I bet out with my low draw. I have the best hand showing and I have ace high which is fairly likely to be best at the moment. My opponent could have any pair in the hole or any two low cards down or (given these games) just one low card and a bad one, possibly as a 3 flush. I think betting is the right play. He could even have 2 bad ones in the hole as sometimes happens at this level like a QJ or a KT.

When I get raised I still have a low draw and as far as I am aware, no matter what he has at this point, whether he has a better low draw, a big draw for high and or low or a high hand like trips or 2 pair, my equity justifies a call. So I do call. There are 6.5 bets in the pot and I cannot envisage being worse than a 6.5 to 1 underdog at this stage - rather I feel I am in much better shape than that!

I felt my opponent could have a 4 flush on 4th with a brick in the hole.

5th street:
I did not make a hand and my opponent improved his board. I did however improve my ace high which could be a factor later. He could have a low, paired his ace, have 4 to a low and a flush draw or still be sitting on 2 pair/trips (most likely 3s).

I have the best hand showing so I act first and given the above factors I check. He bets his hand and I call.

In hindsight this is a mistake because his range is so strong at this point I am essentially calling to hit runner runner or make a low that is potentially no good. Or I could make a high hand that is already beat.

My thinking at the time was that the pot odds justified a call. Getting 9 to 1 it was hard to imagine being in worse shape than that. I felt if I hit my low hand it was possible that my AK high could win me the high side. I also felt I could hit a pair and win the high half... but I suspect it is wrong to think "I MIGHT win half so I call" when cards are still to come!

6th street:

I think this was an even worse error because it now appears I cannot make a low that wins. I am now hoping to hold up for high and this was my thinking at the time, hoping that he has a low and no pair and has the flush draw that somehow misses on 7th!!!

7th:
I make a pair of aces. My opponent's board is quite razzy and I think calling here is fine given that even poorly skilled opponents will auto bet in this situation.
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