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07-31-2014 , 04:57 PM
I need some advice for a live stud cash game.

Ante is 1$, bring-in is 1$, betting limits are 3/6, typically 5-8 handed
The game is loose/passive/straightforward for the most part with maybe 1 or 2 aggressive players

People will usually call the bring-in as well as raises with almost any straight combos (t86, t76 etc), 2 card flushes, atx or worse, any pairs (for the most part only folding on 7th in case they dont fill up)
I do realize that this structure requires a looser attempt, although im not sure how loose I should play

Example 1:
33-9; 2 brings it in, j calls, 8 calls, 7 calls, q calls, is this a hand worth playing given all my cards are live? what if a 9 is out?
what if everyone calls and the q raises? do I get the implied odds to justify a call (assuming all players will come along)?

Example 2:
Ah2h-Jc; 3 brings it in, t calls, 9calls, q calls, 8 calls, 4 calls, 1 heart out - is it worth playing for the bring-in?

Example 3:
9h4h-7h ; 3 brings it in, q calls, k calls, t calls, 8 calls - how does things change when 1, 2 or 3 hearts are dead? I dont think it'd be worth playing it but in good position and loose players it might be correct to play the hand even with 3 hearts gone?

Example 4:
bring-in with 2h4c-5c; j raises, t calls, 7 calls, q calls, all cards are live - call or fold?

Thanks in advance for helping me out here!
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08-01-2014 , 11:22 AM
I'm still new to stud but I'm folding everything but hand #3. I would call if 1-2 were dead and certainly fold if 3 were dead.

I don't like tossing bets in the middle hoping for the best. It adds up.
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08-01-2014 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Re3el_Pr1de
I'm still new to stud but I'm folding everything but hand #3. I would call if 1-2 were dead and certainly fold if 3 were dead.

I don't like tossing bets in the middle hoping for the best. It adds up.
Antes add up too when they are 1/3 of a small bet. This probably isn't a great game to play in depending on the rake, its a super loose structure and as a result your loose opponents will not be making as many costly mistakes. I'd prob call all those hands for the bring-in, would fold hand 4 to a raise, but I'm certainly not an expert in this game.
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08-02-2014 , 08:10 PM
I'm relatively new to stud but I occasional play it part of a mid stakes 50/100 mix game so I'm sure dynamics are different where it's usually three players max to fourth street. But regardless of the looseness I think you should be tight when in doubt, especially when others are super loose. Raise the hell out of your monsters when you do play but OK to balance your range sometimes. In your examples I'd only reluctantly play the three to a flush.

There are also lots of quality reads so I suggest that too.
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08-04-2014 , 10:05 PM
Provided i get in cheap,id defo play hands 1 & 3 vs these guys,both not that nutty but multiway hands nevertheless-a set of 3s should be the nuts against such a loose field.Fold though if u brick on 4rth..

Hand 2 id only play if i somehow got HU with either the bring in or another player,looking to improve on the next street.
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08-09-2014 , 05:47 PM
You should play a thigh approach in this kind of looser-passive games.

The only playable hand is #3 if there is less then 2-3 dead, and no one completes. Straight/flush draws are the kind of hands that should be played in this kind of games, because you are taking advantage of your opponent passivity.
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08-13-2014 , 10:44 AM
Thanks for the input!

I played around with a stud equity calculator - hand 1 has around 15-20% equity multiway against overpairs, 3card flushes and 3card straights plus a few other various hands like aj5 etc

I just don't see how folding hand 1 is the best play here - with the high ante and all the limping we are getting 10:1 - 15:1 expressed odds for our call (not to mention the implied odds when we actually do hit our set)
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08-15-2014 , 01:54 AM
Given the large ante, I think any live pair, especially a wired pair, is probably playable for a full bet in a loose game. It's also probably worth seeing fifth for one bet if still live and you're not facing too many scary boards.

I'm playing hand 1, hand 3 if no more than two of my flush cards are dead, and hand 4 sometimes but not always.

My general tendency in a game like this would be to play a bit passively on third street and usually be the player most willing to go for a check-raise on fourth or fifth.
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