Well we're in position so we can't c/r, but the problem with check-raising in stud8 when not doing it functionally to squeeze a third man or for value is that it looks curious and opponents have too many ways to talk themselves into seeing why you did it, whether showing down a weak low thinking you made garfunkle two-pair or trips or a weak hi thinking you made a low and are trying to move them off it.

Pretending we could do it, a c/r in this spot looks pretty fishy and would not get enough respect to pay for itself. Without an Ace on board, if the boards were such that you could more easily gain position on the next card I think it's more viable subject to the same worry about people talking themselves into things.

Hi Elec!
Thanks for you reply and I took your point.
Yep, I made a mistake...we had position on this hand (so I'd raise... :-) ).

Since I'm a fair loose/bizzarre player, I love to mix my strategy, playing strong boards with different approaches, a strategy which tend to confuse my weaker opponents.

weak opponents will
confuse themselves. better to
confuse the strong ones

Yep, you are right.
I meant "looser" not "weaker" opponents. People who make too many "automatic bets" entering a lot of pots.

If you are going to open this with the ace door card, why not keep firing representing you board? Your opponent doesn't know you don't have a wheel or aces and you probably aren't a big underdog.

complete bet bet bet bet bet bet. if he raises on 5th call, but he'll almost never raise. You can also c/c 5th, not that bad either, but if you hit a 2 or a 4 and he's any good, you might lose some fold equity. Definitely like just betting and calling raises if he chooses to do so

exactly. And if you bet 4th, once in a while you'll get a free card on 5th in this spot (which is how free card plays work -- bet/raise the SB street to get a free card on a BB street). Anyone taking it if offered??

WAIT YOU GUYS PLAY 78 A

........ i thought you guys were good

That's why we can.

With 3 people (2 with small cards) left to act? Of course.

The sick thing is if the 47 is a good player his perception of your range should not change because u could just be trying to jam on 4th but its 10 Torse so both of u are like "me no can hand read" and the 47 prolly thinks hes good but I'd c/r hands like 14 35 and **** if the 3x calls cuz I ain't no punk bitch and I ain't afraid of it getting checked through unless the 47 is chess rocks or cash man

[QUOTE=JiveDef;33530688 I ain't no punk bitch and I ain't afraid of it getting checked through unless the 47 is chess rocks or cash man[/QUOTE]


I think CashmanBrian checked about 3 streets in the 20 hours or so I played with him this summer. As for the other guy, aren't hos required to check to their pimp?

True story I can't even recognize what I wrote in here

The 47 checks behind if its one of them cuz they play so many hands and they know I'd check raise in that spot