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Old 07-23-2011, 09:02 AM   #121
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Re: Boycott PokerStars Stud/Stud8 games until they clean them up

ferth22 = hopefi22

He is so dummy ... same stats, same style, same night at the same tables and same seat with these 2 account. One disconnect and the other seat at all 6 tables, 6 same seats.

I don't care about the rest, because I cashout everything and quit poker. Wtf at all those suckouts and continue brick brick brci.

Adios PokerStars ... oh no, maybe I let 10$ to play 0,01/0,02
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Old 11-10-2011, 08:07 AM   #122
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From 10th November there seems to be a change in Pokerstars policy, they're now allowing 2 chinese players to sit at the same Stud table :/
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:05 AM   #123
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Old 11-10-2011, 11:20 AM   #124
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They change this policy for DoN too?
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:15 PM   #125
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From 10th November there seems to be a change in Pokerstars policy, they're now allowing 2 chinese players to sit at the same Stud table :/
Seriously?
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Old 11-10-2011, 02:15 PM   #126
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wait 2 Chinese players or 2 from that same city? It's pretty dumb to say that 2 Chinese players can't sit at the same table together...
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Old 11-10-2011, 02:29 PM   #127
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wait 2 Chinese players or 2 from that same city? It's pretty dumb to say that 2 Chinese players can't sit at the same table together...
I mean 2 players from China. Previously (until today) only 1 such player could sit at the table to prevent cheating/collusion.
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Old 11-10-2011, 04:27 PM   #128
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sorry but that sounds ludicrous. A group of players gets caught colluding so you punish an entire country? So if there are 3 stud games running; the first chinese person to show up at the right time and grab a seat have dibs? The rest of the country has to wait for that one person to leave the table? I mean it's not like there are tons of stud games running 'round the clock like nl.
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Old 11-10-2011, 04:32 PM   #129
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sorry but that sounds ludicrous. A group of players gets caught colluding so you punish an entire country? So if there are 3 stud games running; the first chinese person to show up at the right time and grab a seat have dibs? The rest of the country has to wait for that one person to leave the table? I mean it's not like there are tons of stud games running 'round the clock like nl.
Well. So as it turns out a pretty large percentage of the people from china playing stud were actually from one city, and it's sort of likely they all knew each other. It's not like there was a diverse bunch of chinese stud players. And since it seemed like they were colluding with each other...
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Old 11-10-2011, 04:32 PM   #130
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It doesnt really make much difference that they allow 2 ppl from china at the same table. Those that collude would do so anyway by using another country.
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Old 11-11-2011, 02:52 AM   #131
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Chinese players at the table or not, I'd love to play stud 8 on Stars right now
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Old 11-11-2011, 07:15 AM   #132
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Just found this thread through search because after not playing stud games for 3 months I sit down at a micro stud table to blow off some steam. See the same Chinese regular who was playing INSANE hours 3 months ago on multiple stud/stud8/razz tables - no big deal as I have his tendencies noted.

Fifteen minutes in I notice that every time I'm contending a hand, 4-5 players are calling with garbage then folding after I'm out. Feels a bit weird. Finally I take a stand against 2 players- the Chinese regular and another guy whose play seems a bit odd and bets this particular hand all the way through. I lose to the regular and note that the other guy - the better, didn't have much. Check his country - wtf - they're allowing two Chinese players again at the tables? After a bit of contemplation I left immediately.

Not even saying there was collusion in this case (I did have a semi-aggro image I think) just that I got that "something's odd" feeling and that's it's interesting both players were Chinese. Mainly interesting cuz I thought they still had the "1 to a table rule" - I know China has billions of people bla bla - and then I find this thread about Stars' stud games.

Regardless of someone's country of origin, the technology has to exist for Stars to detect collusion. I don't think you're going to solve the problem by limiting Chinese players per table (plus it's unfair to the legit guys) but something has to be done!
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Old 11-13-2011, 10:38 PM   #133
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Was going to post in that old thread about the collusion, then found this one. I too found it weird the
other day when out of nowhere there were 2 players from China on nearly every table...

There are multiple tables now with two players from China sitting (mostly mid/high stakes 2/4, 3/6, 5/10...) with
one player sitting out. Not playing each other, just waiting.

Right now there are five tables with the SAME two Chinese players (2/4, 3/6, 5/10) and two tables with the two
other players (5/10) that are doing this... (edit: the SAME two players sitting at five tables together are also playing three more tables together with 2-4 other players at each)

Collusion is back??

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Old 11-14-2011, 08:01 PM   #134
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Collusion is back??
I don't think it ever left. Just made a little more difficult. For the motivated, there are workarounds, and as a result, I don't think the sites can solve the problem. At least until technology has advanced to the point where one can watch the other guys at the table, just like live. And that isn't happening for a long time, so I will no longer play on-line stud. A problem that cannot be solved with the current state-of-the art in my opinion. I refuse to be table bait for these crooks.
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Old 11-17-2011, 11:37 AM   #135
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I still hope Stars will do something about this.

Until then, best we can do is not playing shorthanded Stud. With 7-8 players at the table collusion is much harder.
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