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Originally Posted by snowboard789
have u met any stud players which are a subset of the chisese population?
Never met a Chinese poker player myself.
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Originally Posted by snowboard789
are you actually puttin a zero % of english speaking chinese?
It's surprisingly close to zero. I'd say 0.1%. It's hard to imagine until you spend some time in China.
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Originally Posted by snowboard789
have u met anyone being a pro poker player on pokerstars and not speak even little english in your entire life?
How would you know that they don't speak English? They just won't reply in chat. Do note that the pokerstars software and website come in the Chinese language, so you can completely play poker on pokerstars without knowing a work of English.
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Originally Posted by snowboard789
the post that says since 10% of players on stud games are chinese many of them should post here is spot on.
why post here?
cause 2+2 is where their opponents play, and also the most uptodate poker info site in the world.
and yes, its suspicious
Speaking about dumb argument, sheesh. They "should" post here? Maybe you should go advertise with them.
Let me ask you a question: have you ever seen a Chinese person post on a tech support forum, for software, hardware, etc? I've seen various Europeans, South-Americans, etc, on those forums. But never a Chinese person. You know why? Because it's a nation of more than 1 billion people, who do *everything* in Chinese. Again, this sounds weird to you until you actually spend time there, and see how they created a seperate information-sphere. They have their own version of Yahoo, Google, Youtube, Facebook, the works. They just don't interact with the western information-shpere, to a large extent.
By the way, I'm not saying that there's no collusion among Chinese players. I believe there definitely is collusion among them. I just don't think that the lack of posts on 2p2 from Chinese players is any evidence of that.
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Originally Posted by SleeveOfWizard
From what I know offhand, 10-20 million people are native English speakers in China.
No, that's wrong by several orders of magnitude. The number of native English speakers in China is negligible. Hong Kong would have some, though, but it's probably not more than a couple hundred thousands.
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Originally Posted by SleeveOfWizard
An additional 200-300 million have a functional understanding of the basics.
"China has over 200~350 million users that can read English words but, as anyone can see on the streets of China, only handful of million who are English speakers." (TESOL-India,
India: World's Second Largest English-Speaking Country)
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Originally Posted by SleeveOfWizard
I think that posting a hand and asking "3RD PLAY OK?", is feasible for winning Chinese players smart enough to beat low and mid-stakes games.
Not happening, my friend. They don't roll that way. See my reply to snowboard789 above, about tech support forums.
If you force them to post on 2p2 for some reason, I'm sure they'll manage to do it. But unless you force them to, it's just not gonna happen. People there are very comfortable doing all of their online discussion and posting and what-not in Chinese websites, and generally don't venture out of it.
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Originally Posted by SleeveOfWizard
Way to pigeon-hole an entire nation. Allow me to use another language as an example. My guess is there's at least 350-450 million native Spanish speakers in the world. I dare you to find a single non-******ed hand history discussion related to Stud/Stud8/Razz cash games. The Spanish-language forums (and player base) exist, but they just don't compare to 2p2.
I think you're talking about something that you know nothing about. Comparing English in the Spanish-speaking world to English in the Chinese-speaking world is like comparing a bee-sting to a bullet-hit. You are just not able to appreciate the extent to which China is disconnected from the English-speaking world. That's ok, it's hard to imagine without specific knowledge of it. Let's just agree to disagree, and if at some point you get to talk to Chinese people or visit China, try to ask so,them about exposure to the western internet.