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Old 07-21-2008, 11:35 PM   #1
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Big 27BB pot at river, I've got a 7 low

I'm new to this game.

I didnt get to taking notes on how people played post 4th, but almost everyone's hand selection on 3rd was pretty normal (which is amazing to me, being that i've only played in stud 8 games where people limp with J82 unsuited. Notes on jiccc - "STATION. SUPER STATION. SPACE STATION."

Hand #19003764216
7 Card Stud *High-Low* ($0.50/$1.00), Ante $0.05, Bring-In $0.25

*3rd Street* - (0.80 SB)

voyager9: xx xx As___raises
jiccc: xx xx 9h___calls
gitana: xx xx 8h___folds
BIGTANMAN: xx xx Td___folds
power kings: xx xx 4s___calls
gfdsa146: 2d 7s 7d___calls
supafish: xx xx 2h___*brings-in*___calls
hitnip: xx xx Ad___calls___calls

*4th Street* - (6.80 SB)

voyager9: xx xx As 4d___calls
jiccc: xx xx 9h 9d___*checks*___calls
power kings: xx xx 4s Qd___checks___calls
gfdsa146: 2d 7s 7d 3d___checks___calls
supafish: xx xx 2h 3h___bets
hitnip: xx xx Ad 2s___calls

*5th Street* - (6.40 BB)

voyager9: xx xx As 4d 8c___folds
jiccc: xx xx 9h 9d Qh___*checks*___calls
power kings: xx xx 4s Qd 6h___bets
gfdsa146: 2d 7s 7d 3d 4c___calls
supafish: xx xx 2h 3h Qs___calls
hitnip: xx xx Ad 2s Kh___calls

*6th Street* - (11.40 BB)
I feel pretty golden here, I flat to try to get other inferior lows to come along for the ride. Mistake?jiccc: xx xx 9h 9d Qh Kc___*checks*___calls
power kings: xx xx 4s Qd 6h 6d___bets
gfdsa146: 2d 7s 7d 3d 4c 6c___calls
supafish: xx xx 2h 3h Qs 9c___calls
hitnip: xx xx Ad 2s Kh Js___folds


*River* - (15.40 BB)
I feel like this is one of those aces vs queens all-in preflop situations where there's only a very narrow range of hands that beat you. I'm the one holding the queens.
jiccc: xx xx 9h 9d Qh Kc xx___*checks*___folds
power kings: xx xx 4s Qd 6h 6d xx___bets___calls___raises
gfdsa146: 2d 7s 7d 3d 4c 6c Ts___calls___raises___calls
supafish: xx xx 2h 3h Qs 9c xx___raises___calls___calls

*Total pot:* (27.40 BB)

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Old 07-22-2008, 01:32 AM   #2
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Re: Big 27BB pot at river, I've got a 7 low

Is this a Stars hand? There's a link to a hand converter in the FAQ that makes it a bit easier to read.

The call on 3rd is dubious after an Ace limps and another completes (AND a 4 calls that). You caught good on 4th but a whole bunch of diamonds died and three opponents are showing better low draws, and you still need two more cards just to make a 7. Your hand pretty much sucks in both directions--get rid of it.

I don't really know why 4Q6 is suddenly betting out on 5th but you can take that opportunity to try and rep a made 7 to get the other draws to fold.

On 6th, 23xx and A2xx must be drawing to something and the pot's already pretty big. Raising either charges them for the privilege to try and draw out on you or gets them to fold, locking up half the pot for you. They also have to be worried that the initial bettor will RR and get jammed in.

I don't understand the limp-RR on the river. When 23Q9 raised your board on the river, he's saying he's got your 7 beat. It's pretty unlikely he's jamming a flush since (1) hearts are pretty dead and (2) the high hand is putting a lot of bets in with a paired board and doesn't care if you have a straight.
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Old 07-22-2008, 02:12 AM   #3
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Re: Big 27BB pot at river, I've got a 7 low

7 Card Stud High-Low ($0.50/$1.00), Ante $0.05, Bring-In $0.25 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.80 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx A___raises
Seat 2: xx xx 9___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 8___folds
Seat 4: xx xx T___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 4___calls
Hero: 2 7 7___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 2___brings-in___calls
Seat 8: xx xx A___calls___calls

4th Street - (6.80 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx A 4___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 9 9___checks___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 4 Q___checks___calls
Hero: 2 7 7 3___checks___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 2 3___bets
Seat 8: xx xx A 2___calls

5th Street - (6.40 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx A 4 8___folds
Seat 2: xx xx 9 9 Q___checks___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 4 Q 6___bets
Hero: 2 7 7 3 4___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 2 3 Q___calls
Seat 8: xx xx A 2 K___calls

6th Street - (11.40 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 9 9 Q K___checks___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 4 Q 6 6___bets
Hero: 2 7 7 3 4 6___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 2 3 Q 9___calls
Seat 8: xx xx A 2 K J___folds

River - (15.40 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 9 9 Q K xx___checks___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 4 Q 6 6 xx___bets___calls___raises
Hero: 2 7 7 3 4 6 T___calls___raises___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 2 3 Q 9 xx___raises___calls___calls

Total pot: (27.40 BB)
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Old 07-22-2008, 02:33 AM   #4
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Re: Big 27BB pot at river, I've got a 7 low

When an Ace raises on third street, you should tighten up considerably, and that includes folding cheese like this.

On fourth street, your situation hasn't gotten any better. Three players are showing good low boards. There is an open pair higher than your Sevens. Lots of diamonds are gone. It's only one bet in a big pot and your call closes the action, but I just don't think you have enough hand to continue here.

Somewhat miraculously, you're back in the running on fifth street. I think you can call a bet here.

On sixth, you have a board lock for low. You also have some semblance of a high shot. Six of the 25 unseen cards will give you trips or higher. These won't win every time, obviously, but between this chance and your made low, you have too much equity to not be jamming.

Your river action doesn't make a lot of sense. I'd probably just call as it seems likely that seat 7 was drawing to a better low. When he raises, he's got a big hand. It's possible that he's made a flush, but it's more likely that he's made a low, and he's not raising with a worse low than yours when you're showing four cards to a 76. Your three-bet was more or less pure spewing.

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