Read on villain is that he is an idiot. Just lost huge capped pot vs. me drawing dead:

Full Tilt Poker Game #9294972876: Table pepperman7 - $8/$16 Ante $1.50 - Limit Razz - 2:42:01 ET - 2008/12/03
Seat 1: GabGirl09 ($116.50)
Seat 2: sprocketsAA ($298.50)
Seat 3: ScaredSayScared ($1,197.50)
Seat 5: Kaa ($415.50)
Seat 6: KOOL02 ($155.50)
Seat 7: REPOSADOR ($41)
ScaredSayScared antes $1.50
REPOSADOR antes $1.50
KOOL02 antes $1.50
sprocketsAA antes $1.50
Kaa antes $1.50
GabGirl09 antes $1.50
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to GabGirl09 [5s]
Dealt to sprocketsAA [5d As] [7c]
Dealt to ScaredSayScared [4s]
Dealt to Kaa [8s]
Dealt to KOOL02 [3c]
Dealt to REPOSADOR [6s]
Kaa is high with [8s]
Kaa has 15 seconds left to act
Kaa brings in for $2
KOOL02 folds
REPOSADOR folds
GabGirl09 completes it to $8
sprocketsAA calls $8
ScaredSayScared folds
Kaa folds
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to GabGirl09 [5s] [Jh]
Dealt to sprocketsAA [5d As 7c] [3d]
sprocketsAA bets $8
GabGirl09 calls $8
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to GabGirl09 [5s Jh] [3s]
Dealt to sprocketsAA [5d As 7c 3d] [Kh]
GabGirl09 bets $16
sprocketsAA calls $16
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to GabGirl09 [5s Jh 3s] [7d]
Dealt to sprocketsAA [5d As 7c 3d Kh] [7h]
GabGirl09 bets $16
sprocketsAA calls $16
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to sprocketsAA [5d As 7c 3d Kh 7h] [4h]
GabGirl09 bets $16
sprocketsAA ???

obv I raised because I believe that's a profitable play in a vacuum, but what factors would make you lean towards a call?

never mind... raise all day here

Full Tilt Poker Game #9295392336: Table pepperman7 - $8/$16 Ante $1.50 - Limit Razz - 3:28:41 ET - 2008/12/03
Seat 1: GabGirl09 ($124.50)
Seat 2: sprocketsAA ($225.50)
Seat 3: TheAres ($286.50)
Seat 5: Kaa ($418)
TheAres antes $1.50
Kaa antes $1.50
GabGirl09 antes $1.50
sprocketsAA antes $1.50
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to GabGirl09 [As]
Dealt to sprocketsAA [8h Kc] [7s]
Dealt to TheAres [3s]
Dealt to Kaa [9h]
Kaa is high with [9h]
Kaa brings in for $2
GabGirl09 completes it to $8
sprocketsAA folds
TheAres raises to $16
Kaa folds
GabGirl09 raises to $24
TheAres raises to $32
GabGirl09 calls $8
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to GabGirl09 [As] [Ks]
Dealt to TheAres [3s] [Th]
TheAres bets $8
GabGirl09 has 15 seconds left to act
GabGirl09 folds
Uncalled bet of $8 returned to TheAres
TheAres mucks
TheAres wins the pot ($70)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $72 | Rake $2
Seat 1: GabGirl09 folded on 4th St.
Seat 2: sprocketsAA folded on 3rd St.
Seat 3: TheAres collected ($70), mucked
Seat 5: Kaa folded on 3rd St.

/thread

there's a couple hands that beats u if he didn't improve on the river...

i think a lot comes down to the player's style... some factors u may consider...

1) his opening range with 6 babies behind and if he makes big considerations on the liveliness of his hand...

2) his out of position river betting range...

3) if he makes river bluffs

and

4) and his range for calling a river reraise without the nuts...

i think a lot of this depends on your image and what kind of hands u've been playing...

i like the raise here given ur description of the villain for value, since u obviously thought u were drawing live to the river... it sounds like he's a loose player on tilt... someone who'd try to vbet out of position with a rough hand and call down light...

obviously, given the situation, vs a tight player... u gotta give him credit for completing UTG with so many babies left to act... the 3 and 7 likely didn't pair him... appears to have caught a couple of jokers... and if he's aware of this and 1) capable of making river bluffs given the situation,
2) not call a raise without a made 7 there,
and
3) doesn't bet out of position with a 76 made then u may lean towards calling...

-j

p.s. hand converter would be nice

yeah if youre chasing bc you think your 57 should win you may as well go for value when you hit it. /beating dead horse

ill never understand a preference for converters aside from anon and hands with f draws.

I think the play in this hand isnt optimal. you choose to just call early and end up trapping yourself. I think jamming all they till 6th is the key to burning players like the one you have mentioned (if you read on him is he is a donk, why not pound all the way, then call on 6th, JAM 7th again). I know your style reduces variance, but against total donks, its almost a sin not to make em pay for their mistakes.

WTG

LOL at my style reducing variance. I flat to mix it up.. obv I jam sometimes too. If we both catch good donk will obv bet, I jam and who knows what happens next... idiot caps, flats and calls down, either way there's value in each line if there's a plan for the play

and villan had 97? this particular villan's "good" enough to lead with T7 fwiw.

I raise 100% b/c of who villian is. GabGirl holds a special place in my heart.

well you say villain is terrible and capped drawing dead so i will go ahead and assume she is bet/calling a whole bunch of hands you beat. Ppl like to do that when they are on tilt

I'm sure this info will be useful to him 3+ years later.

Especially because 8/16 game on Fulltilt Poker has hell of a traffic these days.

not quite as useful as your post

[ ]advice only applies to 8/16 razz games specifically on Fulltilt Poker

I'm curious as to why the **** I posted this in the first place. I'm assuming I lost the hand in question.

I was referring to the overall traffic in razz games