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Old 07-13-2012, 11:46 PM   #1
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5/10 Razz 2bet pot;

Poker Stars $5/$10 Limit Razz $0.50 Ante - 7 players
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3rd Street: (0.7 SB)
Seat 1: xx xx 9____Seat 1 folds
Seat 3: xx xx K____Seat 3 brings in for $2____Seat 3 folds
Seat 4: xx xx 2____Seat 4 completes____Seat 4 calls
Seat 5: xx xx A____Seat 5 calls____Seat 5 calls
Seat 6: xx xx 8____Seat 6 folds
Seat 7: xx xx K____Seat 7 folds
Hero: 5 A 4___Hero raises

4th Street: (7.1 SB) (3 players)
Seat 4: xx xx 2 Q____Seat 4 folds
Seat 5: xx xx A Q____Seat 5 calls
Hero: 5 A 4 8___Hero bets

5th Street: (4.55 BB) (2 players)
Seat 5: xx xx A Q J____Seat 5 checks____Seat 5 calls
Hero: 5 A 4 8 4___Hero bets

6th Street: (6.55 BB) (2 players)
Seat 5: xx xx A Q J 3____Seat 5 checks____Seat 5 calls
Hero: 5 A 4 8 4 6___Hero bets

7th Street: (8.55 BB) (2 players)
Seat 5: xx xx A Q J 3 xx____Seat 5 checks____Seat 5 raises
Hero: 5 A 4 8 4 6 T___Hero bets___Hero calls

Should I check 7th? As played I guess I need to call with those odds ...
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:05 PM   #2
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Re: 5/10 Razz 2bet pot;

What hands will he call 7th with? How often will he have those hands?

What hands will he check-raise 7th with? How often will he have those hands? How often will you win when you call?
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Old 07-14-2012, 02:01 PM   #3
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Re: 5/10 Razz 2bet pot;

You played it fine. Checking 7th would be silly w/o reads. I'm not folding given how he played 3rd.

If he's passive and slowplays the nuts on 3rd a lot, and is straightforward on later streets you can b/f here sometimes.
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Old 07-14-2012, 04:12 PM   #4
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Re: 5/10 Razz 2bet pot;

since hes expecting you to call 7th just fold..always do the opposite
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Old 07-15-2012, 07:22 AM   #5
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Def check river. What hands are calling that hero beats?
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Old 07-16-2012, 09:12 AM   #6
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Re: 5/10 Razz 2bet pot;

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Def check river. What hands are calling that hero beats?
seeing as villain called 5th with what he had i'm going to say he calls 7th with any semblance of a made low hand by the river.

Randoms don't really siwas...b/f 7th is prob right but i dont practice what i preach so i call in game
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:12 AM   #7
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Re: 5/10 Razz 2bet pot;

You played everything super standard
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Re: 5/10 Razz 2bet pot;

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You played it fine. Checking 7th would be silly w/o reads.
why?
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:00 AM   #9
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Re: 5/10 Razz 2bet pot;

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You played everything super standard
maybe OP aspires to play better than standard
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:05 PM   #10
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seeing as villain called 5th with what he had i'm going to say he calls 7th with any semblance of a made low hand by the river.

Randoms don't really siwas...b/f 7th is prob right but i dont practice what i preach so i call in game
I play live mix games and in this setting random fish tend to be too loose on early streets but paradoxically too tight on the river. Are online fish different?
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Old 07-17-2012, 12:30 AM   #11
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Re: 5/10 Razz 2bet pot;

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why?
Because he will (correctly) call with a jack, which makes up ~40% of his hands. Also rivered Ts, 9s, 8s. Check only if you intend to c/f. Turning this into a bluff catcher with a c/c would be absurdly bad..

Then again this is FR where everyone plays like their balls still haven't dropped so maybe value bet less, since he might make a nitty fold with a jack?

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Old 07-17-2012, 12:36 AM   #12
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Re: 5/10 Razz 2bet pot;

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maybe OP aspires to play better than standard
You mean FPS? I love when my opponents make "non-standard" plays against me
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Old 07-17-2012, 02:09 AM   #13
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Re: 5/10 Razz 2bet pot;

i doubt i could ever c/f that river
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Old 07-17-2012, 09:34 AM   #14
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Re: 5/10 Razz 2bet pot;

Just realized hero is last to act, so even the more reason to bet.
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Re: 5/10 Razz 2bet pot;

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Because he will (correctly) call with a jack, which makes up ~40% of his hands. Also rivered Ts, 9s, 8s. Check only if you intend to c/f. Turning this into a bluff catcher with a c/c would be absurdly bad..

Then again this is FR where everyone plays like their balls still haven't dropped so maybe value bet less, since he might make a nitty fold with a jack?
Whether villain will x/c 7th UI (with a jack) is by far the biggest factor in determining the correct play here, and since his equity is just barely enough to make calling not be absurdly bad I expect even good players will have a wide variety of call down %ages, let alone the fish.
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You mean FPS? I love when my opponents make "non-standard" plays against me
"standard" is a subjective term ldo, but be careful confusing it for "optimal" or "correct". I have seen many "standard" razz plays look absurd after closer investigation, just as many standard NLHE plays from 2006 would seem absurd today.
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