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Old 06-20-2012, 06:08 PM   #1
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3 suited flush cards only on 4th street--how to play when facing a bet

been so long since i used to grind $1-5 stud everyday instead of $1-2 NL ive probably forgotten most of what i knew 20 yrs ago. But since coming to ac from vegas, ive been playing a lot of $5-10 stud at the taj, and i feel the game should be beatable for more than 1 BB an hour.

one hand i think ive playing too loosely is staying in a lot on 4th when i dont pick up a 4th card of my suit when facing a bet from a guy im pretty sure has a decent pair, (and hes the type of guy who never stops betting). i remember reading somewhere in a book on stud years ago u should take one more card off, im not sure who the author was, maybe ray zee, david sklansky or mason malmouth? anyway im seriously beginning to doubt this advice, seems its a leak in my game and is affecting my results negatively. besides im playing off a very low bankroll and because of that i should look for ways to reduce variance.

when do u take a card off when u miss 4th street?
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Old 06-20-2012, 07:14 PM   #2
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Re: 3 suited flush cards only on 4th street--how to play when facing a bet

I'm just a lo stakes player, but I can't see how it would be worth continuing with just some arbitrary 3-flush on fourth. I'd think the circumstances where you might continue would include having a live pair, having two or more live overcards to your opponent's likely pair, there being for some reason an enormous pot that makes folding absurd for one bet, it being likely that you will get free cards later if you call now, having a board you might be able to represent something with later (like 89 say) if you catch well, being in a spot where villain often won't have anything either, or being in a pot with an exceedingly bad player who will pay you off extremely well if you make some kind of hand. And you'd probably want more than one of the last few conditions to be true to bother continuing.
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Old 06-21-2012, 12:01 AM   #3
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Re: 3 suited flush cards only on 4th street--how to play when facing a bet

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I'm just a lo stakes player, but I can't see how it would be worth continuing with just some arbitrary 3-flush on fourth. I'd think the circumstances where you might continue would include having a live pair, having two or more live overcards to your opponent's likely pair, there being for some reason an enormous pot that makes folding absurd for one bet, it being likely that you will get free cards later if you call now, having a board you might be able to represent something with later (like 89 say) if you catch well, being in a spot where villain often won't have anything either, or being in a pot with an exceedingly bad player who will pay you off extremely well if you make some kind of hand. And you'd probably want more than one of the last few conditions to be true to bother continuing.
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basically: overcards
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