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04-24-2012 , 06:40 PM
Regarding the weekly $230 bounty.. $30 goes to the house, $100 black chip goes to player for bounty, and $100 goes into the prize pool..

Does anyone else feel that the 3% withheld from the prize pool should only be withheld from the $100 that goes in??

They are taking 3% of the personal bounties also I believe. So on the actual payout pool, 6% is withheld..
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04-24-2012 , 06:48 PM
Confirmed on their website that it's 3% of the $200, not $100.
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04-25-2012 , 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by daly
Oh ok thank you!
fwiwi play once a week sometimes more
but i play long sessions and play race book occassionally i also move from game to game occassionally 1/2 to 4/8 i get rooms on occassion and most promos
although there is no ryhme or reason my theory is the long sessions are valued and rewarded
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04-25-2012 , 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by colt45ss
fwiwi play once a week sometimes more
but i play long sessions and play race book occassionally i also move from game to game occassionally 1/2 to 4/8 i get rooms on occassion and most promos
although there is no ryhme or reason my theory is the long sessions are valued and rewarded
In a sense, they are. A lot of the promos and comps are based on your daily point averages. So long sessions provide for a higher point/day average.
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04-25-2012 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Whoop
Nice offer, (sarcasm)

earn 10 points receive $25 gift card to Macy's
earn 20 points receive $50 gift card
Earn 50 points receive $100 gift card

Of course table games and slots. Can we get poker specific deals in the future? Play x amount of hours in a week and receive said item. We literally get nothing nowadays.
I guess you didn't mind being called a QUEEN in the email. Actually this is a good offer if your at FW alot as points add up over 11 days and cards will be easy to obtain at those levels. (providing you play table or slots).
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04-25-2012 , 12:35 PM
In late February, I held a gold card not to mention that trip I went on a little drunk degen slot run on my way back to the hotel...

I am now on my account online, am a Wild card. Ridiculous 20% room offer, $79 PEQ/CED/MGM offers, $10 slot play (trolling now right?)...

Was my account reset during the new system? I'm kinda feeling offended by these offers and a $10 slot play, I was probably playing $10 slots at some point...
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04-25-2012 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Lavahands
In late February, I held a gold card not to mention that trip I went on a little drunk degen slot run on my way back to the hotel...

I am now on my account online, am a Wild card. Ridiculous 20% room offer, $79 PEQ/CED/MGM offers, $10 slot play (trolling now right?)...

Was my account reset during the new system? I'm kinda feeling offended by these offers and a $10 slot play, I was probably playing $10 slots at some point...
Strange that you are not at least a Crown if you were a Gold. Here's how those break down:

If you were Gold, that means you earned 800+ points from Jul-Dec2011.
If you're Wild, that means you earned <800 points from Oct2010-Sept2011, and have <800 points earned since Oct2011... otherwise you would be Crown.

Ask a host. They can break down your account for you. Ask them what you earned from Oct10-Sept11, Jul-Dec11, and Oct11-now, and that should clear up any questions about your card status since you can compare what they tell you to what I said above.

As far as your rooms and weekly slot play, that stuff was never tied to your card, only your play. If your play has decreased OR comp usage has increased, your offers will get scaled back. In some cases, offers were scaled back even while maintaining status quo.
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04-25-2012 , 02:17 PM
Played Monday night at 2/5, and saw some encouraging signs that brought me back to 2004-2007 Era. Players with deep stacks overbetting and shoving up to $800 into dry (And sometimes empty) pots on the flop. Another player constantly throwing money around and just playing AWFUL; no strategy, rhyme, or reason to his play at all. Another player sitting down for the first time and having fun losing his money.

I was the lone caller for $30 anf flopped middle set on a 10 8 7 board and had original raiser shove all in for $500 to me on the flop!!!!!!! (He was a serial shover) He had K 10 of course......

Anyhow, fun time and shows there is still money to be made out there.....
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04-25-2012 , 04:22 PM
No not at Foxwoods or Mohegan.

1/2 I keep getting sucked out on because people play any 2.
2/5+ is all super solid regz
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04-25-2012 , 04:37 PM
I think the level of play at the $2/$5 at Foxwoods depends greatly on day of week, time of day, and whether or not its a holiday weekend or during a tournament series

Table selection is huge, but unfortunately they do the damn Must-Move so often a lot of times you don't have a choice
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04-25-2012 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RobFarha
1/2 I keep getting sucked out on because people play any 2.
This is a great thing. You just need to handle the variance. The suckouts will happen, and yes they can get very frustrating, but if you can stomach them and not go on tilt 1/2 is very beatable.

The problem for a lot of the winning players is that the winrate at 1/2 just isn't good enough. They can do much better at 2/5, and that's why a lot of the regs in this thread play 2/5 or 5/10. The biggest obstacle is having a sufficient bankroll.
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04-25-2012 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AceOfKidneys
Although I have yet to play with anyone at this level who is truly dangerous and already is not firmly entrenched in 5/10.
sounds like you haven't played enough 2/5
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04-25-2012 , 04:48 PM
Let's please not have another 2/5 vs 5/10 pissing match. Just a preemptive message
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04-25-2012 , 04:51 PM
I wasn't trying to start a pissing match, but to say there are no threatening players at 2/5 is a joke. There are plenty of players who choose not to play 5/10 for a variety of reasons (I'm not one of them, I don't want to play 5/10 until my bankroll permits me to)
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04-25-2012 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
Strange that you are not at least a Crown if you were a Gold. Here's how those break down:

If you were Gold, that means you earned 800+ points from Jul-Dec2011.
If you're Wild, that means you earned <800 points from Oct2010-Sept2011, and have <800 points earned since Oct2011... otherwise you would be Crown.

Ask a host. They can break down your account for you. Ask them what you earned from Oct10-Sept11, Jul-Dec11, and Oct11-now, and that should clear up any questions about your card status since you can compare what they tell you to what I said above.

As far as your rooms and weekly slot play, that stuff was never tied to your card, only your play. If your play has decreased OR comp usage has increased, your offers will get scaled back. In some cases, offers were scaled back even while maintaining status quo.
Thanks for some insight, according to the site is says I should be able to see Win/(Loss) up to current date, but I only see 2011 year for view, could my play not have been tracked? I don't have my wifes account info atm to see if we possibly used her account for that session, but I probably accrued 800 pts in that 3 days alone in Feb... I have had to request card replacements multiple times, and having 2 diff accts is not possible due to SSN being attached, right? Calling FW was kind of not useful..

Would suck losing the status I had. Never really spent points other than coffees from DnD and in 2011 I used my free rooms almost 4-8 times per month.
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04-25-2012 , 05:00 PM
I'd say don't move up to 2/5 until you're sure that you can handle the noticably bigger swings... I was lucky enough to go on a sick heater when I first moved up to 2/5 but am now facing the other side of variance and don't know how I would have reacted if this happened when I first switched... it's not the same as 1/2 and anyone who says it is doesn't play enough 2/5. Don't move up until you know you're ready, and def start by "taking a shot" imo
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04-25-2012 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Lavahands
Thanks for some insight, according to the site is says I should be able to see Win/(Loss) up to current date, but I only see 2011 year for view, could my play not have been tracked? I don't have my wifes account info atm to see if we possibly used her account for that session, but I probably accrued 800 pts in that 3 days alone in Feb... I have had to request card replacements multiple times, and having 2 diff accts is not possible due to SSN being attached, right? Calling FW was kind of not useful..

Would suck losing the status I had. Never really spent points other than coffees from DnD and in 2011 I used my free rooms almost 4-8 times per month.
You won't see current year's win/loss. No you can't link accounts, yours and your wife's are completely independent. Spending points has no effect on your status. Things that negatively affect your status include using your free rooms, collecting the weekly points/slot play, picking up the giveaways, little to no play when you're there, etc. The thing that positively affects your status is playing, most notably concentrated playing (20 points in 1 day reflects better on you than 10 points in each of 2 days, for example).

It sounds like you did lose your status, but I couldn't tell you why without knowing your point earning, playing, and comp usage history. A host could help you with this info.
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04-25-2012 , 05:34 PM
Saying that 2/5 plays like 1/2, and 2/5 is full of decent regs are both wrong imo. Id say that its somwhere in the middle.

And 2/5 doesnt have more variance, it has less imo. Sure, the money is more because the game is naturally bigger...but in terms of big blinds, its less cause the buyin is smaller. 100 bb's as opposed to 150. So, if you're properly rolled, its all relative.
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04-25-2012 , 05:45 PM
I think the average buy-in at 1/2 is smaller than 2/5 after you normalize the data.
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04-25-2012 , 06:32 PM
1/2...Ugh

Tables are full of AARP members and mosquito-stacks looking to shove their entire $85 in on any piece of the board. Nobody wants to play anything, and you get the dirty looks and groans if you raise a pot because people think they are going to hit the BBJP. Sometimes the pot can reach a whopping 2 Hundred dollars!

No thanks.
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04-25-2012 , 06:51 PM
^ ridiculous exaggeration. Im pretty sure in certaint situations (fishy 1/2 table, tough 2/5 table) , a 1/2 table will provide a higher hourly than a 2/5 table.
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04-25-2012 , 07:05 PM
i am going to be home for a couple of wedding for the month of june and have some questions about the 5-10nl and 10-25nl games.

what i am most interested in is how deep the games play. for example, how big does 5-10 usually play? is it infested with short stackers or do many of the regulars buy in deepish and encourage straddling?

how many tables of 5-10 generally run? do they run through the night or usually die out at a certain time?

how often does the 10-25 run? is it uncapped and does cash play?

thanks!
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04-25-2012 , 07:10 PM
100 - 200 O.O.E H

I have someone looking for a little more info on this current game if anyone has anything.
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04-25-2012 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by AceOfKidneys
I once asked one of my friends, who is a regular in this game (and a well-known, well-respected player in our 10/25 NL game) how the game was in terms of profit potential, and this is what he told our 5/10 table:

"If any one of you took 5 minutes to learn what starting hands to play, you all would be favorites in this game."

I would take this to mean that the games are ridiculously soft (at times, anyway).
To add, some of the FW 10/25 players that have come to the Borgata that I've played with are confirmed to be just as your friend says.
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04-25-2012 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DerekJCEX
i am going to be home for a couple of wedding for the month of june and have some questions about the 5-10nl and 10-25nl games.

what i am most interested in is how deep the games play. for example, how big does 5-10 usually play? is it infested with short stackers or do many of the regulars buy in deepish and encourage straddling?

how many tables of 5-10 generally run? do they run through the night or usually die out at a certain time?

how often does the 10-25 run? is it uncapped and does cash play?

thanks!
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