Still didnt really address my post. Wouldn't GBH be more motivated to change their tournament dates as they are the ones losing business?

No, GBH already set their dates last year. I already have a ticket for June so it wouldn't make sense for them to change dates. The Woodbine manager simply did not know about those dates but is now able to factor it in when deciding on next month's date.

Okay so they've set their dates, but they are losing money and are no longer able sell out when competing against Woodbine. It's not Woodbine who should adjust their business model,it's GBH. If you don't understand this concept,just let me know and I'll stop attempting to explain it to you.

Did any 2+2er play in today's $220+$10 MTT at Mohawk, or the upcoming $220+$10 at Western Fair, with only 4% rake? Woodbine's electronic MTT with 10% rake on May 13 did not sell out.

Woodbine has a conflict yet again with GBH next month, so neither one may sell out. The good news is that GPI/Hendonmob has been putting the winners of the Woodbine/Mohawk tournaments online, so the back-to-back winner of the $500+$50 Deep Stack sitting in the same lucky seat for two months in a row shows up on GlobalPokerIndex.com.

So is it just MMTs now? No $80 SitnGos?

What is the minimum tournament buyin?

Wish they kept their website updated.

So I saw today that thr city voted in favour of expanding Woodbine, what are the chances we see a real card room on the way?

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50/50?
But it's safe to say that Woodbine would see alot more players, and perhaps have some more games/higher limits?

Once a month tourney.

The sngs have been gone for a year..

If they want more players they need to add real tables. I personally still go, but every single one of my poker playing friends have sworn off playing those electronic tables. Its safe to say they arnt very good, but the point still stands.

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50/50?

Its going to be a world class casino and entertainment complex geared toward created jobs in Rexdale.

More like 99% chance of there being a live poker room.

The big questions are how many tables will there be set aside for poker and which casino operator will be put in place to run Woodbine?

I haven't been at WB much this year, but I was at FV last night, and some players/dealers were saying that WB might get table games/table poker this year??
Is this remotely possible or what?

You arnt allowed to use cell phones, but no one is monitoring talk. Older people consistently soft play, show their neighbours what they have and make reactions after they fold and a specific card hits. Pretty annoying to be honest.

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The Toronto Executive Committee has approved Woodbine expansion, which will probably take years, NOT this year. It could have up to 300 gaming tables and 5,000 slot machines, which would be more than badly-managed Fallsview with 100 tables and 3,000 slots.
http://www.insidetoronto.com/news-st...-ron-taverner/

I thought that too, but people were saying that they would/could temporarily expand shortly to the 3rd/4th floors( empty floors above the horse racing viewing floor/cafeteria)

I've been a regular at other casinos where they move the poker room to a different floor and you miss a lot of the walk through traffic, but many players appreciate having their own quiet area without the slot machines. Only worry is that the poker room is no longer open 24/7 as Woodbine reduces staff significantly overnight and close off everything upstairs.

"OLG and UNIFOR Local 252 were unable to reach a collective agreement. As a result, there is a labour disruption at OLG Slots at Woodbine Racetrack. OLG Slots at Woodbine Racetrack intends to remain open during the labour disruption."

To those who tried the Woodbine Deep Stack tournaments, what reasons did you stop playing them? The $330 and $550 tournaments initially sold out, but the past two months, they had less than three full tables, with only 21 for today.

One of the blunders was scheduling the monthly tournament usually on the same day as Great Blue Heron Casino's tournament, so tournament regs like me could not play both. The next blunder is on December 16, which is the same day that I will be defending my "King of the Cards" championship vs. 49 other regs @ GBH.

I think they're under promoted imo

I play at Woodbine semi often and I've missed tournaments I didn't even know were taking place.. I'm not much of a tournament player but I would have taken a shot at a couple had I known

lol try making your brags not so obvious. Im pretty sure you only ever post to brag or complain about rake.

Back to the topic: It would be great if Woodbine had better times including a weekday evening tournament. These daytime tournaments just dont work for most people. Even if these tournaments became a weekly event, they wouldnt need as much promotion as players would get used to the schedule.

I agree, weekday evenings would be solid

There's nothing wrong about factoring in rake since it is such an important factor in winning at poker, just like you do. Back to the topic: Unfortunately, Woodbine management was unwilling to run the SNGs at reasonable times, which killed it, and it looks like the same will happen for these nice Deep Stack MTTs where we get a lot of hands. With so much demand for poker in Ontario, what we need is for Woodbine to be approved to become a full resort casino, with better management (MGM?) that can make the expanded live poker room world-class.

1) if you really want to start quoting posts about rake, ill win that battle.

2) a resort casino would be great for toronto but by the time you get over the political obstacles in front of it, we'll be 5-7 years out from ever seeing it. Woodbine needs to act soon on this. They're a tiny poker room compared to the metropolitan city it sevices. I've always felt Woodbine's poker room should be full every evening in a city of this size.

To me, it simply comes down to advertising. Many dont know about the poker room because its offerings are not marketed well. I'm hoping that once online poker is added to the online OLG casino that they'll be doing some sort of cross-promotion initiative to help drive business to both areas.

1) There's enough hatred & wars in the world, so I offer a non-trolling truce.

2) Most people in Ontario that play poker already know that poker is available in Woodbine and other OLG locations, but it seems that most don't like electronic poker. Mohawk, Georgian Downs and Carleton poker rooms were busy after they opened so underground clubs were adversely affected, but players stopped returning and those electronic tables are gone. Most gamblers are bad and will blame their losses that "electronic is rigged" and "online is rigged."

The poker-challenged management could do better:

- More promotions such as the Macau SNG that you won. There were supposed to be bigger promotions with PokerTek, but it hasn't happened.

- If it will only have an MTT once a month, then have it on a weeknight or weekend when > 21 players can play it.

- Have reasonable hours for SNGs, so players like me can play them then play the cash game when we're done.

The bottom line is that Woodbine needs to get approval ASAP for LIVE dealers, so that GTA players won't have to keep commuting to Niagara Falls and Rama.

This times a million.

Not a fan of the poker room as is and the "fake" casino they have there.

If we had live dealers in the poker room and the casino was expanded so it wasn't so crowded and there were some half decent bars to have a drink or two, I'd be there at least a couple of times a week, maybe more.

That would definitely be nice. However, I'm sure the rake at Woodbine would increase to be more on par with other Canadian casinos.