Hi JK, Im a little confused about the use of the word comical to describe our events??? We run over a Million Dollars in Guaranteed events ($100K and up) throughout the year!!! We get 50 to 70 runners and up for our WEEKDAY Daily tournaments in the Poker room. Our Main events and MTTS consistently draw close to 500 guests and we still hold them in the Ballroom and Event center. Maybe Im missing the point and if I am please feel free to call me. The number for the poker room is 315-361-8676. Please ask for me..If I am not here, leave me your info and I will call you back to discuss!!! I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you!

Hi Guys, I have reached out to a few Pro players to try to get the ball rolling on this. Hopefully we will be able to move forward with an RIU event. Our next Series is Super Stacks staring Fri. Nov. 25th and running through Sun. Dec. 4th. Each weekend features a $100K event. Flights on Friday and Saturday each Sunday Main Event. Event Qualifiers and Bounty Tournaments will be held through out the Series. Hope to see you here!

I think he might have been talking about the events that use to run during the week during the series that were one day events like 330/$100 bounty events and the $330/100k turbo guarantee events that always use to be on the schedule. I miss those events but I guess those were not drawing a big enough crowd.

Hello Wrap and thanks for the clarification! If that is the case I am totally in agreement about missing those events. The issue is it has become extremely difficult to run those week long events especially with guarantees due to available attendance. Prior to casinos being in every State, poker players would travel to various venues to play. With casino expansion, now they can wait until poker rooms closer to home has Main events and guarantees.That greatly diminishes the total number of possible players per event. Back in the day you had entrants from Florida, Md, Pa, Ct and more travel to Central NY to participate. Presently, the large majority are coming specifically from NY. In the past, players would travel and stay all week to play in numerous events. With the exception of venues that are close to highly populated areas, the week long series have diminished. Add to that players are playing more often in their home town Casinos thereby limiting available funds and time to participate, bankroll and travel to a weeklong event at a distant venue. That being said, our Flighrs and Main Events are still very healthy and popular. The events and changes that we do run during event weeks are well received and when we don't run weeklong events, our regular Daily tournaments are still well represented. The poker industry has changed, Casino expansion has its good points and its drawbacks in how it shapes operations and events. The one thing I can say is that we will always review and strive to provide the best poker experience we possibly can to best suit our guests needs. There are a lot more factors to speak on cocerning this subject, I previously listed my contact number and I sincerely would enjoy talking to anyone about it that would like to discuss it further. I enjoy the posters on 2+2 and I value your opinions and suggestions... Thanks guys. Hope to see you in November!!!

Sorry if my post was a little preachy and miss typed. I just wish turning stone would throw in more events that were a little different than the norm (6max , ante only, start with antes and bigger stack, etc). I'd rather stay in upstate to play vs tracking to foxwoods/borgata. The prelim events need more players. I know poker demand is prolly on the decline for upstate but miss the old times at turning stone when they easily got 200+ players for prelim events in my buy in range (200-300).

Btw looking forward to the 250 100k Gtn.

I also think the hotel's prices have gone up pretty drastically since then. I remember being able to book a room in the Hotel for like $89/night, not you are lucky to get $200/night.

ALSO YOU GUYS GOT RID OF THE BRAZILIAN STEAKHOUSE

Hi Jon... Please check with us in the poker room when you come to play... Poker rate and tournament rates are $80 and $85 depending on the day! They always have been for years. I wasn't here for the Brazilian Steakhouse so I can't compare... But I do know that our present Steakhouse...21... is a recognized award winning Steakhouse! Let me know if you ever have any issues getting a poker rate. Thanks!

No issue J, I enjoy hearing opinions. We have and will try to mix some different events in with the usual. Some work some don't but we will keep trying. Stop and say hello to me when you come in for Super Stacks. Look forward to seeing you here!!!

I would love to not see every event be a rebuy/reentry. I know the climate has changed where that has to happen, but if I'm going to pay a few hundred dollars as a recreational player I'm only going to have one bullet. Its the main reason why when I play I stick to cash.

Freezeouts make me feel on an even footing, even though I know I'm -EV versus grinders.

I just saw on Bravo that Parx is now including daily tournament results on the Hendon mob database! Frankie, you should look into this. I know it sounds very superficial, but I think that has the potential to increase turnout for dailies as players do love seeing themselves climb the Hendon ranks.

Thanks for bringing that up Snipers, like you, I appreciate old-school type events and we were discussing the feasibility of trying some Freezeouts again. They were not met with great acceptance the last time but we will try re- tweaking and rolling them out again in the future!!!

I will mention that in order to get me to make the 4+ hour drive from New England, I'd need something closer to a series than a one-off event. That's why I didn't come for the Columbus Day event. The beautiful thing about a series is as soon as you bust from one thing, you can hop in another. It'd be nice to play a couple side events in the $200-300 buyin range, and if they go well, hop in a $600 main.

And of course, I'd love to play some non-NLHE side events. See the EPT's model of putting some more obscure/fun variants on the schedule to utilize a handful of tables that were otherwise out of service in a timeslot where the schedule couldn't handle another NLHE tournament if it wanted to. My mouth waters at the prospect of playing a $200 8game tournament, or anything non-NLHE.

With regards to re-entry vs freezeout, there are many logical arguments I could tell Snipers as to why re-entry doesn't harm players who only want to fire a single bullet and in fact makes the tournament all the more profitable, but those arguments have been hashed out a million times in a hundred different threads on 2p2. What I will say is, if I'm going to drive 4+ hours to Turning Stone, I'd sure as heck have things to play. And if that means a freezeout main with plenty of side events, so be it. But if it's primarily or only the main, I'm not making the trek if it's 1 and done. Just my $0.02.

How do I book a room with the Poker Room Rate?

For playing cash? Just call accommodations and say "I'd like to book a poker room for such and such date". They will check availability and go from there. You have to play 4 hours minimum by 6am the following morning (that's relatively new, used to be by midnight).

Disagree with this. Honestly..don't you want bigger prize pools? What type of player is most likely to bust out of a mtt so early (what is it 6-8 levels and re-entry ends?). We want fun players re-entering mtts and adding to the prize pool imo.

I get the reasons why this is a positive for good grinders and players. I've just personally had a few bad experiences with maniacs at rebuy events. For me personally, I'm just a semi decent rec player who has a wife and 2 kids, so for me there isn't a built up bankroll to fire a bunch of bullets.

If I'm taking $500 out of doing something fun with my kids to play a tournament, I don't want to be sitting there watching someone with deep pockets literally shoving every hand for the first X levels. I get that can still happen in a freeze out and so on.

I get that if I had aces and lost to a maniac shoving pre with J4 off that it happens X% of the time and so on, but the overall experience is dulled for me, because that kind of money is a treat to myself only.

Maybe one of these days I'll try it again and see if my experience is better.

I think you are doing a great job and one of these days I will have to ask for you if you're around to say hi.

I'm not complaining my any means, just thought I can't be alone in my thinking for some of the tournaments.

I understand its a business and you need to cater to the majority of your customers. I just find a good cash game to go play and enjoy my time.

Thank you for the kind words and believe me, never took anything you posted as a complaint. Rooms grow by listening and taking into consideration what guests want. My TD and I had a sit down yesterday and we will look into varying tournaments as we move forward with our events. Hope to see you soon!!!

Thank you for the assist SAHM, that is exactly how you book a poker rate room!!!

OK I am booked in the hotel for Friday 11/3. Does anyone know if the Hotel has a different check in location than the Tower? Any guidance on where to pull up to for the hotel would be appreciated.

For the hotel, you pull up at the first left. You'll come in to the property and at the first stop sign, you'll see where you can turn left. (It might be slightly past that but it is on the left) If you get to the stop sign where there is the crosswalk that people use to get from the parking lots you've gone too far.

Valet parking for the original hotel is there.

Thanks

Thanks Snipers!

lets get a 5-10 no limit hold'em game tonight bighitters, it's for the benefit of the game. i'll be arriving in the next few hours, you can find me at the bar ordering double shots of whisky hitting on every broad that walks by with my sky high pompadour, sports coat, and herring bone gold chain. life is good, baby

Disappointed on the 5/10 turnout let's go big hitters Nobody wants to take mr wongs money???