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09-08-2009, 10:26 AM
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#301
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,725
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Re: Taj Mahal (AC) Poker Thread
I went to the Taj and played 1/2 the other day. I sat down at the 2/4 for a little while until I found a table that I liked. I played with a couple of people one lady who was god awful. She kept on loosing and loosing and was an absolutely horrible player. Later on that night I saw both of these people at 10/20. So go figure. The 10/20 game can't be that great (in terms of skill level) at the Taj. At least based on what I have seen in the past.
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09-08-2009, 12:57 PM
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#302
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journeyman
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: New York
Posts: 221
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Re: Taj Mahal (AC) Poker Thread
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Originally Posted by Dave D
I guess I'm trying to compare the Taj's 10/20 to the Borgata's. In december it was fine at the Borgata imo, but I went a couple weekends in August and found the 10/20 at the Borgata to be almost totally filled with annoying regs who knew each other and generally, although bad at poker weren't that aggressive/spewy. Just trying to figure out if the Taj game is any different.
I've never played at the Taj, as everyone on here always talks about it being so gross in there, and the one time I checked out the poker room I got confused/disgusted and left.
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I'm a returning regular to the $10/20 at Taj. I've never had a dangerous encounter at Taj (which isn't to say it can't happen) in the 5 or so years that I've been going there. But I'm sure the Taj is way safer than a NYC poker club. Sure there are shadier characters at Taj, but I kind of like that aspect. To me personally, it adds to its charm. Taj and Borgata seem to take to different clientele. From a poker standpoint, both games are +EV, otherwise I think it's just a matter of preference.
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09-08-2009, 01:20 PM
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#303
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newbie
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 44
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Re: Taj Mahal (AC) Poker Thread
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Originally Posted by JackM
lol you deserve what you got. Nice try at an angle-shot to possibly save 45 dollars in like a 200 dollar pot looooooooool
Im sure they will be glad to never see you again. 
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Angle shooting with the best hand ? and I guess we dont need to have a show down just declare you have the best hand and the pot gets shipped to you !!
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09-09-2009, 01:18 AM
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#304
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centurion
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Northwest NJ
Posts: 198
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Re: Taj Mahal (AC) Poker Thread
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Originally Posted by Rush17
nineinchal: Was that you Friday night in the bright colored shirt, bandana around your head? there was a guy that looked like your avatar, I was at the table beside the one where the argument occured (no, it wasn't carlo russo, I know who he is) who was pretty irate over some crap that went down in his game, security came, it was pretty nasty, but then an hour later I see him walking back in the room.
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I played with a guy matching this description Friday overnight at Showboat. He came to the table, saying he was just banned from Taj. Apparently, someone called him the N-word, and he bi+ch-slapped the guy. He also bragged, "I didn't even bother to close my fist. I slapped him like the bi+ch he was!" He did give his name, but went mostly by his first initial, which was D. He also had a friend hovering around him about half the time.
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09-09-2009, 02:21 AM
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#305
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veteran
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 3,035
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Re: Taj Mahal (AC) Poker Thread
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Originally Posted by WoodenKing
I played with a guy matching this description Friday overnight at Showboat. He came to the table, saying he was just banned from Taj. Apparently, someone called him the N-word, and he bi+ch-slapped the guy. He also bragged, "I didn't even bother to close my fist. I slapped him like the bi+ch he was!" He did give his name, but went mostly by his first initial, which was D. He also had a friend hovering around him about half the time.
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Probably the same guy. I heard him call the guy a 'meow' before he was escorted out the door.
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09-10-2009, 01:54 PM
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#306
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newbie
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 44
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Re: Taj Mahal (AC) Poker Thread
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Originally Posted by DCJ001
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Aside from the particular rules of gameplay, some common rules in U.S. public cardrooms Robert's Rules of Poker[1] by Bob Ciaffone is a widely referenced set of poker rules.[2] include:
Verbal declarations are binding and take precedence over non-verbal actions.
Cards speak for themselves and prevail if a player misstates the value of his hand at the showdown.
My OK is a call .... and my cards speak for themselves even if I didnt know I had a fullhouse which certainly wasnt the case . Board is out . Next time I wont show my cards . I will just say I have the best hand , ship it this way please !
Last edited by Great Kills; 09-10-2009 at 02:03 PM.
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09-10-2009, 06:34 PM
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#307
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adept
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 825
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Re: Taj Mahal (AC) Poker Thread
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Originally Posted by Great Kills
My OK is a call .... and my cards speak for themselves
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Sorry, but "OK" is not a call. By the rules of the game you never called the raise.
Since BBJs have come to AC turning your cards faceup before you've completed your action will get your hand declared dead in some rooms. As happened to you.
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09-10-2009, 09:43 PM
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#308
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veteran
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,210
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Re: Taj Mahal (AC) Poker Thread
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Originally Posted by Great Kills
Aside from the particular rules of gameplay, some common rules in U.S. public cardrooms Robert's Rules of Poker[1] by Bob Ciaffone is a widely referenced set of poker rules.[2] include:
Verbal declarations are binding and take precedence over non-verbal actions.
Cards speak for themselves and prevail if a player misstates the value of his hand at the showdown.
My OK is a call .... and my cards speak for themselves even if I didnt know I had a fullhouse which certainly wasnt the case . Board is out . Next time I wont show my cards . I will just say I have the best hand , ship it this way please !
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Apparently, you misunderstood what I was saying.
When you said, "checked to me, i raise 70," the YouTube video was given to teach you that, after the flop, if a player checks, you cannot raise; but you can bet. Similarly, if, after the flop, a player bets, the next player cannot reraise.
After the flop, a raise cannot happen unless a bet happens first. After the flop, a reraise cannot happen unless someone has bet, and someone has raised first.
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09-11-2009, 02:35 PM
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#309
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newbie
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 44
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Re: Taj Mahal (AC) Poker Thread
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Originally Posted by cockpit
Sorry, but "OK" is not a call. By the rules of the game you never called the raise.
Since BBJs have come to AC turning your cards faceup before you've completed your action will get your hand declared dead in some rooms. As happened to you.
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Cards speak ..... this ive seen , player A bets player B calls . Player A shows down second best hand thinking its the winner . Player B mucks his cards but flips a card in the process , dealer turns over both cards and reveals player B has the winning hand . Dealer ships pot to player B ...... after he attempted to much his hand . So if I didnt call my opponent should have kept his river bet because I didnt call and pot should have been shipped to me .........table wasnt eligible for BBJ so wasnt a issue ...
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09-11-2009, 03:15 PM
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#310
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adept
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 825
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Re: Taj Mahal (AC) Poker Thread
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Originally Posted by Great Kills
Cards speak ..... this ive seen , player A bets player B calls . Player A shows down second best hand thinking its the winner . Player B mucks his cards but flips a card in the process , dealer turns over both cards and reveals player B has the winning hand . Dealer ships pot to player B ...... after he attempted to much his hand . So if I didnt call my opponent should have kept his river bet because I didnt call and pot should have been shipped to me .........table wasnt eligible for BBJ so wasnt a issue ...
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It is true that cards speak. But you are not accepting that you did not clearly call. You were facing a raise, said "OK" and tabled your hand. "OK" is ambiguous. The dealer and floor interpreted it to mean you were conceding the pot. Protect yourself and don't leave your actions open to interpretation. Either put your chips in or say "call" or both.
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09-13-2009, 06:45 PM
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#311
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newbie
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 44
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Re: Taj Mahal (AC) Poker Thread
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Originally Posted by cockpit
It is true that cards speak. But you are not accepting that you did not clearly call. You were facing a raise, said "OK" and tabled your hand. "OK" is ambiguous. The dealer and floor interpreted it to mean you were conceding the pot. Protect yourself and don't leave your actions open to interpretation. Either put your chips in or say "call" or both.
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I concede I didnt say call ,, but obvious is obvious ......wheres my angle shoot ,, and i had been doing this all nite ..so now it turns into a problem ,, dealer yelled when i tabled my hand " youuuuuu mucckkkkkk " dealer is supposed to keep his/ her mouth shut ........... bad ruling or not ,, im not here to argue the points ,, just telling my story and i think its a bad move by the floor when they rule other situations differently .... you either agree or dont ,,, this isnt about poker rules its about the floors way of solving it ..... and i say BAD SOLVE
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09-14-2009, 12:34 AM
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#312
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old hand
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Delivering 1000 Bitch Slaps per sec
Posts: 1,383
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Re: Taj Mahal (AC) Poker Thread
The juice is too high on the daily tournaments.
$48 + $12 ,
$50 + $15
How many runners in these?
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09-14-2009, 09:38 AM
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#313
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An early out is...
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: DC
Posts: 6,755
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Re: Taj Mahal (AC) Poker Thread
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Originally Posted by ReyzorXxX
The juice is too high on the daily tournaments.
$48 + $12 ,
$50 + $15
How many runners in these?
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I've never seen the midnight tournament have any less than 83 players. And that was on a Tuesday night in the middle of January. I've seen it with as many as 170 players during some pub poker tournament national championship gathering. I think that was earlier this summer, but not 100% sure.
I assure you that the entertainment value of the midnight tournament is well worth the $15 juice.
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09-14-2009, 11:01 AM
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#314
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stranger
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 5
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Re: Taj Mahal (AC) Poker Thread
Am I correct in assuming that there will be some live action of 1-2 PLO during wed-fri this week?? Does this usually run during the weekday here?
Thanks
-Scott
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09-14-2009, 07:59 PM
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#315
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adept
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 825
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Re: Taj Mahal (AC) Poker Thread
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Originally Posted by Great Kills
I concede I didnt say call ,, but obvious is obvious ......wheres my angle shoot ,, and i had been doing this all nite ..so now it turns into a problem ,, dealer yelled when i tabled my hand " youuuuuu mucckkkkkk " dealer is supposed to keep his/ her mouth shut ........... bad ruling or not ,, im not here to argue the points ,, just telling my story and i think its a bad move by the floor when they rule other situations differently .... you either agree or dont ,,, this isnt about poker rules its about the floors way of solving it ..... and i say BAD SOLVE
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Just to be clear - it wasn't me who suggested you were trying an angle nor was I joining that part of the discussion.
I'm not really defending the floor's decision, just asking you to see things from his/her point of view. I think most times the ruling goes in your favor but not always. I can see how this was frustrating for you but I also think this could have happened at just about any room and any time. It was a judgement call that could have gone either way. It was your bad luck that it happened to you.
Where you get my complete sympathy and agreement is with your comment on the dealer. A competent dealer would have clarified your action with you. Based on the quote you attribute to the dealer I infer that he/she was born outside the US. Nothing against that. But the Taj has too many dealers who have a poor understanding of english and/or don't understand how to play poker. Because of that they make waaaaayyyy too many mistakes in NLHE because they don't understand what the the players are saying or doing. I've learned to take breaks when these types come in to deal.
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