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Old 11-17-2011, 09:12 PM   #1
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TI announced today via twitter that they will be "hiring poker players" starting in January. I can't find any more info on it than this, does anyone know any more details?
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Old 11-17-2011, 10:18 PM   #2
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TI announced today via twitter that they will be "hiring poker players" starting in January. I can't find any more info on it than this, does anyone know any more details?
I think they're talking about this promotion:

Play 10 hours = $50
Play 20 hours = $150
Play 30 hours = $250
Play 40 hours = $400

http://www.allvegaspoker.com/forum/v...5885&start=160

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Old 11-17-2011, 11:07 PM   #3
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I think they're talking about this promotion:

Play 10 hours = $50
Play 20 hours = $150
Play 30 hours = $250
Play 40 hours = $400

http://www.allvegaspoker.com/forum/v...5885&start=160
Very interesting, thanks, not quite propping but still better than nothing.
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Old 11-18-2011, 05:01 AM   #4
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Very interesting, thanks, not quite propping but still better than nothing.
It's BETTER than propping. You can play whatever hours you want at whatever stakes you want and get $10/hr for doing so long as you put in a 40 hour week. And they probably won't be sending the IRS any W2's for it.

I have NO clue how they can support this. Seems like it'll be financially ruinous. But I'll bet it brings in players.
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Old 11-18-2011, 11:25 AM   #5
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I have NO clue how they can support this. Seems like it'll be financially ruinous. But I'll bet it brings in players.
Because most players won't get the $10, and because they'll rake more than $10 doing it.

And, if successful, nothing draws a crowd like a crowd.
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Old 11-18-2011, 03:56 PM   #6
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I think they're talking about this promotion:

Play 10 hours = $50
Play 20 hours = $150
Play 30 hours = $250
Play 40 hours = $400

http://www.allvegaspoker.com/forum/v...5885&start=160
Wow - damn good deal. On top of $2 per hour comps. Seriously, this would be better than a job as a prop.
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Old 11-18-2011, 10:00 PM   #7
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It's BETTER than propping. You can play whatever hours you want at whatever stakes you want and get $10/hr for doing so long as you put in a 40 hour week. And they probably won't be sending the IRS any W2's for it.

I have NO clue how they can support this. Seems like it'll be financially ruinous. But I'll bet it brings in players.
From what I have found, low level props make more than $10 an hour, but after I made that post I was thinking about it a bit and realized that it may be better because though you don't get as much per hour, you can play not only whatever stakes you want but you won't get pulled from good games to play bad games. You could also make your own 40 hour schedule instead of them telling you when to come in, which doesn't apply to all prop gigs but for some it does.

That said, it depends on how they are funding it, it says they are using the jackpot drop. I'm assuming they aren't actually taking extra just for this promotion, because that would definitely decrease the upside. Also, playing there as opposed to a place without a jackpot drop altogether would save you ~3/hour, so on net you are getting 7/hr at best. Still sounds like a sweet deal and I hope its still going when I get there in May/June.
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Ok, Im not the best at maths, so which game is best to play during this promo including all rake and based on 25 hands/ hr ( I know people say 30 h/h but I lowball everything so I can feel good later)?

Im in Pa. and would consider taking my 1st trip to vegas for this promo. Sounds interesting.

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Old 11-19-2011, 07:23 PM   #9
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TI announced today via twitter that they will be "hiring poker players" starting in January. I can't find any more info on it than this, does anyone know any more details?
This is true. Starts january 1st. Please let me know if you have any questions about it!

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This is true. Starts january 1st. Please let me know if you have any questions about it!

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How long is promo going to run?
What variants and stakes are elligible?
Is the $2 comp rate available all stakes?
Is there a limit to how many weeks one can participate?
Could you lock up seat 2 or 8 for me?
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How long is promo going to run?
What variants and stakes are elligible?
Is the $2 comp rate available all stakes?
Is there a limit to how many weeks one can participate?
Could you lock up seat 2 or 8 for me?
1-3 NLH and Higher, 3-6 LHE and Higher
$2 comps in all cash games
No Limit to number of times participating
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Old 11-19-2011, 08:25 PM   #12
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We're hoping to run it for quite some time. Nothing set in stone, however.
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Old 11-20-2011, 03:41 AM   #13
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We're hoping to run it for quite some time. Nothing set in stone, however.
Here's one plausible scenario:

IP and Flamingo and Bills and whoever else is now running morning aces-cracked promos will empty, and instead they'll all flock to TI. They will sit in the 3/6 game and just fold around all hands except AK+ for 7 hours a day 7 days a week. The house will rake almost nothing, the dealers will be tipped $8/down on a good down, and the players will take home $500/wk. The tables will pay out $100/hr/table while the jackpot drop will be $20/hr and the jackpot fund will run dry quickly.

So I recommend getting in while the getting is good. Harrah's practically went broke trying to give away $10/hr for a maximum of 3 hours a day if and only if those 3 hours were put in during a morning session. TI's promo is bigger and better--the room will be flooded with nits who are aiming to snag their $20K/yr tax free income that includes free ethanol and coffee (that is, except for the nits who are too cheap to tip the waitresses and don't have the nerve to openly stiff 'em, so they bring in their own beverages from home).

What might save 'em is that this promo will also attract non-nits--something Harrah's morning promo didn't do because non-nits just don't play a lot between 8am and 2pm. These are folks who just wanna play their normal NL game while snagging $10/hr for the effort. It's a bit hard to know if the nits will totally overwhelm the room and for how many hours a day.

I approve of TI's efforts to be creative and attract players, but this promo just has little chance of being sustainable once word gets around.
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Old 11-20-2011, 11:40 AM   #14
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Here's one plausible scenario:

IP and Flamingo and Bills and whoever else is now running morning aces-cracked promos will empty, and instead they'll all flock to TI. They will sit in the 3/6 game and just fold around all hands except AK+ for 7 hours a day 7 days a week. The house will rake almost nothing, the dealers will be tipped $8/down on a good down, and the players will take home $500/wk. The tables will pay out $100/hr/table while the jackpot drop will be $20/hr and the jackpot fund will run dry quickly.

So I recommend getting in while the getting is good. Harrah's practically went broke trying to give away $10/hr for a maximum of 3 hours a day if and only if those 3 hours were put in during a morning session. TI's promo is bigger and better--the room will be flooded with nits who are aiming to snag their $20K/yr tax free income that includes free ethanol and coffee (that is, except for the nits who are too cheap to tip the waitresses and don't have the nerve to openly stiff 'em, so they bring in their own beverages from home).

What might save 'em is that this promo will also attract non-nits--something Harrah's morning promo didn't do because non-nits just don't play a lot between 8am and 2pm. These are folks who just wanna play their normal NL game while snagging $10/hr for the effort. It's a bit hard to know if the nits will totally overwhelm the room and for how many hours a day.

I approve of TI's efforts to be creative and attract players, but this promo just has little chance of being sustainable once word gets around.
We have the "nit" clause on the rules sheet. TI reserves the right to disqualify any player from this promotion at any time. If you aren't there to play poker, and be a pleasant person to be around, you aren't welcome. Also, If we have to adjust it to NL only, we will do that. I'm definitely aware of Harrah's attempt and failure of a similar promotion and will be doing everything I can to keep it from happening at TI.
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Old 11-20-2011, 12:27 PM   #15
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We have the "nit" clause on the rules sheet. TI reserves the right to disqualify any player from this promotion at any time. If you aren't there to play poker, and be a pleasant person to be around, you aren't welcome. Also, If we have to adjust it to NL only, we will do that. I'm definitely aware of Harrah's attempt and failure of a similar promotion and will be doing everything I can to keep it from happening at TI.
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