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every 5/10 or 10/10 game in the area for the last several years. PA (meaning Parx) high limit games have the same time as Borgata for every stake (except i dont know about 200/400+)

So I was at the room for like 3hrs today. I'm very impressed so far.

I played 1/2nl. The competition was pretty easy and straddling was making the game juicy. A couple people straddled oop so the other players couldn't straddle the button. Although not everyone participated in the straddle, not a single person complained.

The dealers in general were pretty good. Only one big error in which the pot almost got pushed to the losing hand at showdown but it was quickly corrected. There are a lot of dealers from AC and Parx so I'm not too worried.

The chairs and tables are very nice. The charging stations get in the way a little bit but nothing major. I did notice that the iPhone 5 chargers did not work for my phone for some reason.

I got free redbull playing 1/2nl as long as I had a player card. I didn't try any of the food but apparently you can text your order to the restaurants inside the casino.

I defiantly feel like this is my new home and am excited to start some 2/5 and 5/10 games daily. I forgot to ask the floor what the buyin and rake was for 5/10.

Another thing to add is that the floor was very helpful at finding seats quickly and chip runners were doing a good job.

Haven't played at Sugarhouse yet, but Parx dealers is good news. Fastest and most professional dealers of any room I've played in

$500-$2000 last night
$6/half Time

19 tables going, 3 2/5 tables

Almost a full house (no pun intended). Nice. No mixed games yet but here's hoping.

Anyone play in the PLO game here yet? What are buy ins min/max? What is rake etc? Any info appreciated. Looking forward to making trip to play in it.

Place needs more TV's. Lot of wall space for only 4

I've played here a few times and like the room. I agree the straddle is good for action. I'd suggest making sure the dealers all know how the straddle works and be able to explain it to the players, as some of the dealers are obviously fairly new. Most of the complaints I've seen about the straddle have just been people unclear how it works, and once they know how it works they're fine with it, but not all of the dealers have been able to explain it well.

I guess my biggest suggestion for improvement would be to make it a bit easier to get soft drinks when the room is full. When I was there last night, it was taking close to an hour to get a bottle of water. Obviously installing a self serve machine like Chester would be a bit much for a temporary room, but maybe a self serve water dispenser would be nice, which would leave the drink servers able to focus on alcohol service.

What's with all the dude waiters?

dont know about about the min, but the 1/2 PLO has an uncapped buyin. This isnt a typo and its confirmed with the floor.

There hasnt been anyone to buyin for any ridiculous amount yet but once the games is rolling there are ppl reloading for 1k+

The rake has been 10% up to $5

I heard it was changed to max 500 no longer uncapped

can we clear this up please? cap or uncapped? min/max? thanks

looks like late at night/very early morning is the time to choose sugarhouse over harrah's.

i was at harrah's very late wednesday; first 1/3 broke, then 1/2. only 1 2/5 game was going at 5 a.m.

seems like when i check the bravo at 4 a.m. or so, there are always more games going at sugarhouse than at harrah's. most of the day it's the other way around. might have to start double dipping and making the drive up there around 2 a.m. or so.

This sugar house straddle or whatever it is called is a terrible rule. Does not seem right to me that anyone can straddle at anytime although worst position gets priority. While I am all for someone putting in money blind it does not seem right to me if someone straddles on the button that the blinds now have to act first. Do a traditional straddle where utg has the option.

Idiotic rule that slows the game up and I will make the case long term will not be good as people will get bored as u can play even fewer hands from the blinds when someone in late position or the button straddles. Utg straddle creates way more action...and someone in terrible position is committing money into the pot blind and at least in the blinds u have a chance of seeing others act before deciding on your play.

Likely will not play at SH again until this is eliminated. Will continue to play at Harrah's which is an extra 15 minute drive or parx.

All in all though impressed with the way the room was run and all dealers were good albeit a couple were obviously new and slow, but competent and will be ok.

One last thought the 1/3 table I was at was tough does anyone other than two plus 2 ers know that SH has a poker room yet. This being said this room will get lots of play as word gets out and be awesome especially once moved to main building. But gotta change that straddle rule for the long term good of the games.

I agree that the rule slows the game up but overall I think it's a good rule.

I was a parx reg for about 2yrs and there were occasional utg straddles. With the SH straddle competent players will be straddling in position thus creating bigger pots in position. Or early position players will straddle to prevent the button from straddling thus still creating bigger pots in position.

It's now called a "schuylkill straddle", and it's fantastic IMHO.

-RJ

The fish will show up one tournaments start and the recreational players find out the room exists.

Lol there are plenty of fish already

can someone explain exactly what the straddle is.... I'm very confused....


so if the blinds are seats 1 & 2, and seat 6 straddles, then seat 7 is first to act preflop? Is that accurate? Then on the flop seat 1 is first to act? Is that correct?

I played here for the first time yesterday - I really like the room. It has a cool feel, and the tables and chairs are nice. The chips feel great, and the chargers are nice, although like others said they are kind of awkwardly placed. That's actually because the tables are 10-handed tables being used 9-handed... If we were squared up to the cup holders, the chargers would be in between players. Having the extra space and better action is probably worth the charger discomfort, though.

Some of the dealers were very good, but some were really really bad. Raye if you have enough dealers to keep things running while re-training some, there are a few who could use it. One dealer I had yesterday looked really uncomfortable handling the deck, struggled cutting out chips, miscounted bets (thought $40 was $20, and it was bet with 8 reds - pretty simple), pushed a pot the wrong way, and it took him about 20 seconds to make change and take the rake after every hand - sometimes longer. One hand he dealt to the BB first, skipping the SB. Another hand he dealt the SB 3 cards and everyone else too. At one point he also stopped dealing preflop for 20-30 seconds to have a conversation with a player about sports. I'm all for dealers chatting it up if they can keep the game moving, but that's really frustrating when we're getting so few hands in his 30 minutes.

He was a nice guy, and I could tell he was nervous and trying to learn, but it really hurt the game a ton.

The very next dealer also struggled, but not as much. If you don't have enough experienced dealers to fill up your rotations, could you have your floors/dealer coordinators try to avoid putting multiple inexperienced dealers together in a string? That's a recipe for breaking games (it broke the game I was in). We lost a few players on the first dealer, and 4/6 on the next one.

If the players know that they won't get the new dealers back-to-back, or no more than one out of every 4 or 5 (I'm not sure how many overall are inexperienced), they'll probably be more likely to stick it out.

That's the one big issue, everything else is great and I'm looking forward to playing there more as long as the dealers improve. I love the straddle, don't get rid of it! Being able to straddle from anywhere is great for the game, and recreational players are more likely to enjoy the action than be opposed to it in my experience.

Also, the valet being right by the poker room is great - it was very quick and easy to get to my car and the area was well lit and there was a good security presence that alleviated all of my prior concerns about the area.

Raye one other question - does cash play while waiting for chips after the chip runner has been called? If not, are we officially playing behind once the chip runner gets our money or not until the chips are back and placed on the table?

Yes and yes.

Anyone complaining about people blindly putting money in pre-flop to build the pot are crazy. It creates a better atmosphere and if you know what you're doing its easy to get paid off. I've said this before but make one or two no straddling tables that way you keep the nits happy and people who like action happy.

I whole-heartedly agree if that is the case. However in my experience, when traditional straddling is the standard at the table, you're almost obligated to straddle UTG. If some fish doesn't want to he's berated and leaves and you're left with a table of five annoying 22 year olds who are just bored of 1/2, but don't want to step up to 2/5.

Sounds to me like this Sugarhouse version is just random idiots putting money in blind in random positions. Clearly, anyone should be fine with that.