Thanks for the update, TT. While I hope that there is Mike and Joel can be unbanned, I am happy to see progress being made and and understanding of the situation. I think having more information about what is allowed and not allowed, as it pertains to card rooms & casinos in particular, is very helpful and would go a long way to clearing up and avoiding this situation in the future.

well, so much for coming down there tomorrow. Guess I'll be back at the borg...

IMO, as somebody who fits into the "barely play and gets free midweek rooms" category, its because I barely play. They see this and know I need an incentive to come down. Why give an incentive to people who are already there?

bingo

not hard to figure out

herrrow there,

i'm going to be down in a few weeks, was thinking of playing the 11am? 120 or something, how many runners pleeeease?

GP

This is pretty backwards IMO. If I play a lot I should be rewarded. If I don't I may go somewhere else.

I just tried to book a room at any harrah's prop in AC for thur aug 13th. Only the Boat and Harrahs were free. I went with the Boat since I've never been there and this thread says the poker room is pretty nice.

I almost went with Harrahs but I figured being on the boardwalk would be more interesting for my gf. I've only ever really been to caesars and bally's while in AC and I'm usually the kind of person that sticks with what he knows. Damn them for making me try something new.

I have 1190 tier points on my TR card and the rate I get is $69 for Harrahs and $79 for Showboat. I wonder how many points I would have to rack up before I get a free room. I've lost quite a bit in the pit games, too...

This is the first free room I've booked this summer. I went to AC in early april and haven't been able to make it back since. The infrequent nature of my trips probably has a lot to do with it...I have like 100 tier points lol. I was able to book a free room all spring but never got the chance. I did book a 3 night stay the week after memorial day but had to cancel as something came up. They just want me to come back.

So i was at Showboat today and the jackpot hit AGAIN for 90k. Didn't hit in 4 1/2 months and now twice in 3 days. Anyways it was quad 10's over quad 4's, and the jackpot reloaded around $1500 haha.

I don't understand why these casinos are using such poor BBJ bankroll management...

This is really bad news for the Showboat pokeroom. Gonna be a long, painful recovery.

It's really strange because the exact same thing happened last year around this time. BBJ was in the upper $100k's and it hit twice in a couple days, then ended up hitting four times in a month.

is there a TR thread?

This is not entirely correct. I started the showboat thread looking for information about the new room before it was built. After a big turnout in questions about the place a mod later changed the title to the Official Showboat Thread.

Next you'll be telling us the emperor has no clothes.

I do recall the facts as you describe them and I do believe this was the first of the 'official' threads. I wish in this fair land there was another forum that would allow the helpful and innocent postings that the Mikes have done here.

A basic tenet of business is that it is 10 times more expensive to find a new customer than to keep an existing one. It wouldn't make sense to give your best offers to infrequent customers and risk losing your core customers.

Not entirely correct? Sound like his explanation was complete BS

He also said that none of the mods new about this thread; even though it was one of the most viewed sites and i remember seeing mods post in here....

This thread, and the banned dealers, have done nothing but help visitors of this site. Which is what should be the overriding point, and the goal of such a big, powerful site such as this. Even if its not, you would think that the powers that be could at least put up the facade that it is, instead of making it obvious its only goal is to pad the owners pockets. To ban these guys is such a short sighted, pitiful joke of a decision, it just makes me feel disgusted for providing clicks to a site run by people greedy enough to do that.

This does not suprise me since Harrah's does not know the first thing about operating a business.

I'm not asking for comped weekends and limo service. I know I roll low. HET can keep all those stupid coupons they send me for $5 free slot play and 1/2 priced buffets. I literally wipe my bum with them. That is not going to make me drive 2 hours to come play there. All I ask for is a comped room during the week when the hotel has a less then 50% occupancy. I will gladly pay my own way to park, eat, drink, shop, etc.

Harrah's will get more money out of me during a overnight stay when I can play a lot in two days, instead of a day trip where I play 10 hours and have to go home.

I am not like some other players out there that think they deserve comped suites and meals in luxury restaurants when they lose $20 in a slot machine. Keep your stupid slot play, coupons, coffeemakers, cheezy gifts. I'm a pretty easy person - all I would need to keep me coming back to your company is a once a month comped room offer.

Mods do nothing wrong - that is in the terms and conditions. Obviously you did not read them either.

Then the answer is easy, take 10 months or so off. DOn't play at a Harrah's property.

Seriously...a downturn in my finances made it so I wasn't able to go for the past year, yet in this last month I've been getting 2-3 offers in the mail daily. Hell, they offered to fly me and the wife from Norfolk VA to their place in Mississippi for 3 nights for $250. Checking airfare on travelocity that's 1/2 the just plane ticket price...it's insane.

Rooms at the 'Boat for midweek are $49 on my current offer. Hoping something similar comes for August, as things have settled and I'm going up next month to make a donation to the rest of you degenerates.

You are correct, Mike Haven who is not a moderator in the B&M forum took it upon himself to change the title to "official", I dont know why he did this, it wasn't something that the moderators of the B&M forum knew about and personally I didn't know that until today when I checked the logs - every change made in a thread leaves a record. I'll check with Mike but since that was more than a year ago he may not remember.

Mikes postings were not innocent, his goal was to promote his room at the expense of the people who opperate this forum and allow people like you to read and post here - for free -. Thats pretty shady IMO, can you name one major comparable forum that would allow a company representative to post promotional messages without permission? I cant think of any, even Yahoo Answers stops people from shilling.

Situations like this are precisely why corporations don't allow their workers to represent the company on public forums, they are untrained and can create bigger problems accidentally that greatly outweigh the help that they may provide. If Harrah's corporate got wind of this thread I bet they would be very unhappy that two of their low level workers took it upon themselves to represent the company in the largest gambling forum in the world.

None of the mods knew that this was occuring in this thread, we havent read it recently. 2+2 gets between 20,000 and 22,000 posts a day, we cannot be on top of everything, we rely on users to click the Notify Moderator button to help the mods do their jobs. As another example none of B&M mods realized that Stan was unintentionally spamming in the Borgata thread, this is in the middle of being addressed right now. The big difference is that Stan is an advertiser with the Borgata, although he broke the rules he is actually one of the people whose rights we are protecting, we are going to re-train him how to post ASAP, in the future he will not be allowed to post promotional messages, he will only be allowed to answer customer questions, his role on 2+2 will only be as customer support.

To clarify the views in this thread are not that big, it doesn't even register in the top 100. Also I did a search and couldn't find any B&M forum moderators who posted in this thread, I think you might be mistaken, if not please send me a PM with a link so we can look into it, thanks!

We work with hundreds of authorized companies which are not advertisers who are communicate with the users of 2+2 daily for customer support - for free! These companies follow the rules, when its discovered that they do not follow the rules then they risk being banned. We cannot re-write the rules for this thread, we have millions of visitors every month whose needs we need to balance. The vast majority of users do not want us to permit companies on our forum who promote their products or services, I think the decisions in this thread are consistent with their wishes even if some of you think it is wrong. We are not going to change on this position, its a firm and fair decision in my eyes, rather than blame the messenger you should consider looking at the source of your frustrations - if they stopped to send a private message to any of the moderators to ask what is and is not allowed in advance then this wouldnt have been an issue at all.

Was at Showboat last night.. BBJ $4,000-something. Yikes!!

Can anyone confirm the story I heard that the BBJ was hit (the second time this week) by a 25 year old guy in town for a bachelor party? Heard they were going to murmur at Borgata afterwards. Must have been a good night!

I went down on Sunday and the BBJ was at $7,400. When I arrived shortly after noon, there were two tables of 1/2 NLHE and one table of 2/4 LHE running. A couple of players at my table commented how sorry they were to see the BBJ go off because it killed the 2/5 game that had been running last week when the BBJ was so high, I played $1/2 and was up and down throughout the session. I didn't make too many big hands, but slowly chipped up throughout the day. I was about $130 to the good before giving nearly all of it back because I don't know how to fold when my nut flush slow play bites me.

I had As8s under the gun and flopped the flush. I very rarely slow play anything unless it is a full house or better, but I checked the flop and two players behind me also checked. The turn was an 8 and paired the board. The SB immediately moved all in for $93. I was absolutely positive I was beat and said I was going to throw away my hand. But I made the donkey call anyway. I cashed out $66 ahead for the day, but kicking myself for such a bad call.