Um the problem of horribly incompitent dealers that don't seem to give a **** has been a problem for a while.

Oscar (mentioned a couple posts up). I was drunk and playing 2/4 lhe w/ a friend about a year ago. He got a wopping 4 hands dealt durring his 30 min. Oh it was a 7 handed game too.

It was the worst show of dealing ive ever seen.

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#2) you are not allowed to ask for a count of your opponents stack unless they are all in. so, some guy raises and you want to know if you're getting implieds or you open and they call and you want to plan your bet sizing. sorry, they don't have to tell you and the dealer is not allowed to count

This is standard everywhere. Don't know where you've been playing where this is allowed, other than online. As long as opponents stack is visible and all larger denomination chips are in front, he doesn't have to tell you ****.

I'm guessing he dont have a hard rock rewards card, but one of those poker only cards

OK, maybe i'm wrong about the chip count request, but what's protocol if somebody didn't have all of their stacks 20 high and all the sudden you go all in under the assumption that somebody has 5 stacks of red ($500, but in reality he had a few blacks hidden or a dirty stack or he had stacks of 22 and he has $550)? How does that get worked out?

before i make any big decision at the table, if there's any chance my opponent is not showing all of his chips, i always ask the dealer to ask that player to make all of his chips visible. once all the chips are visible i can always make a very good estimate. a lot of times i can figure out the exact amount without asking anything else.

It doesnt matter if they stack their chips 50 high, a player is never obligated to count out to you unless he is all in.

I get the impression by your post you have never played live, because a lot of your assumptions are just off base

correct

Just wondering if the tournaments are still being filled up with all the cash games going on. Anyone know?

Yes, it's still open. I hate driving, too, but it's bearable if there is a fellow degen to discuss the pokers on the way there.

Aro5389, I drive down from the western part of Orlando near Windermere.

I created this login awhile ago but never really posted so I don't have PM privileges yet. We'd need another way to meet up or get in contact for a trip to THR. Btw, even though my handle implies a fat chick, I'm just a regular dude. Not sure what I was thinking when I picked that.

Does LO8 ever run?

They always have 3/6 limit Omaha/8 and tonight they had a 7 handed 10/20 limit omaha/8 going. 1st time I have seen the 10/20.

Yeah, this happened last Friday night. I was in seat 5 or 6 at the table, it was a 2/5 game, and [name removed] was the dealer. We had 2 revolving seats & 2 seats that stayed empty for about 2 hours at which point we asked the dealer if we could get those seats filled since they had started 3 more 2/5 games while those 2 seats remained empty. So the dealer stopped one of the "Floors" (older, short, blonde haired lady) and explained the situation. Her response was "Oh yeah, oh well...", the dealer was completely embarrassed!

The funny thing is I was telling the story to another player Saturday night & the dealer at the time knew all the details and said they heard the story from [name removed] the night before on their break. This story is making it's way around the room pretty fast! lol

Friday night was ridiculous all together! Shortly after that first story unfolded I moved to a 1/3 table and witnessed a dealer (old, tall, European guy, don't know his name) get called out on raking $7 each pot on a few different pots. Then after a few dealer rotations, I had a dealer forget to make change on folded blinds 3 times.

Last week it was hard returning from playing in the quality & service oriented Vegas rooms (Bellagio, Aria, & Venetian) to playing in a room (THR) where the mentality is "if you don't like it, play somewhere else, & good luck finding action else where!"

At a freaking amazing 5/10 table right now. 3 big fish all with >4k stacks and I have position on all of them

Yea they have a LONG way to go to make it comparable to other card rooms around the country.

[name removed] is an absolutly AWFUL ****ing dealer. Granted hes an old guy and I understand this but WTF? I was at the table and tipped him $1 on a $75ish pot and he said "Thats it?" I didnt hear him say it but a couple of the other people at the table heard it and they were quite offended. He was at the table for like 30ish minutes and dealt like 18 hands.....sigh.

The problem right now is for some reason you can be a horrible dealer and still have job security. Either the management doesnt care or they are horrible themselves.

And WTF.....there are 9 people on the waiting list for the 2/5NL game and I sit there at a 6 handed table for 25 minutes. Doesnt the Bravo system do everything for you?

Sorry but the managers in that room are pretty cool on a personal level [name removed] but they re not doing there job.

......Floridians........*sigh*

Yeah we started a game of 10/20 LHE today at 3 or 3:30 that which by around 5:30 turned itself into a 10/20 H.O. (Omaha 8 and LHE). We played a round of each for about another 2 or 3 hours and eventually went to just O8 until midnight. At one point we almost got an O.E (Omaha 8 and Stud 8) game but we had one person object.
It was an excellent game. We had a couple of people play that had never played Omaha 8 just for fun, and some really bad players to add to that.

I also played the only other time it ran and it coincidentally happened on a Thursday as well. However, only one other person besides me played both days... so I wouldn't read anything into that coincidence.
The game the first day it ran was not nearly as good, but I still ran like god that day which helps.

All larger denomination chips are required to be in front. Technically if he is hiding large chips or has a dirty stack and you shove (and lose) you should only be required to pay off his visible chips. Since I dont think the floor people at the Rock are compitent I wouldnt rely on this.

Just ask the person to make sure all of his/her chips are vissable ask them to move the chips around before shoving.

3/6 runs all the time. i've gotten on the 10/20 list on 3 different occasions but it has never started.

I have never played at Tampa, I'm a Hollywood reg and follow this thread to see how things are over there. Other than the ridiculous amount of bad beats you guys hit, the action seems pretty similar. I assume they use different dealers for different game, that guy isn't an "A" dealer is he? That sounds terrible.

I make a point of letting the bad dealers know they suck when they are being wayyyyy below expected. Too slow, not paying attention to the action, not controlling the table. A good dealer makes a huge difference to a table. Do any of you do this to this guy?

And if one ever said "thats it" i would ask for it back and never tip him again.

I play a lot in Tampa and around the state, though at much lower limits than some of you degen/pros. A comment about the dealers at Tampa (and elsewhere in Fla., really):

1) They have very little practice until now for dealing PLO and even less when significant money is involved, leading to lots of multi-way pots. Give them some time to get a little better.

2) It has always pissed me off that they take so damn long to count down their trays each time. This 30 min down thing can really kill a game that has any momentum. And God forbid there be the slightest discrepancy in the tray. You can sit there for another 15 minutes while they figure out that, yes, its a dollar over.

The dealer in question also says one or more of these phrases every pot he pushes:
good hand, good pot, nice bet, well played, good win.
All are strictly for tip hustling obviously. Which is strictly forbidden but either management doesn't know or doesn't care.

There is several dealers that make these bs comments when pushing pots.

I gave the house $1 one time because it was taking so long to figure out why they were $1 short.

I handed the floor man a $1 bill and said "go get a chip and put it in the ****ing trey so we can play some cards."

When he got back I said "look its 1 ****ing dollar. We wasted 10 minutes and probably would have wasted another 5 if I didnt give you the money. You rake in probably $125 minimum per hour so you cost your company $20-$30 to find where that $1 went not to mention you pissed off 9 customers. Maybe next time you should think twice before taking so much damn time."

Do they have a kiosk set up yet where you can swipe your players card and get on the lists? I thought I read in one of these threads that HR was doing this, but maybe it was Hollywood. I was looking for one last night and didn't see it. The people at the brush stand seem to get a bit annoyed when I ask them to put me on 4 or 5 different lists when there's a line of 10 people waiting behind me.

Yea the machine is there but its had a sign on it saying out of order or something for last several days. It was working for a few days tho.
You can check your comps status and get on multiple lists, when its working.

Hey anyone wanna get more 10-20+ NL going this weekend? What time do these games run?

Long time lurker on here,dont post much, and dont imagine there being too many guys from here playing in the 5-10-20/ 10-25/25 games but i could be wrong? Would be cool to know who you are...

as for me, im 24 from the west coast , on vacation for a few weeks. I play late hours, into the mornings, and probably seem like i am trying to run the game over.

Anyways games seem pretty good, would like to play bigger (at least time rake) so let me know...