Are you assuming this to be true or do you have intimate knowledge of operations of the Tampa Hard Rock Casino.

PX, you're running some sort of level here? Something to just spurn some debate? The 3 dollars/hr WPT dollars is similar to them handing out satty tickets or entries into Mtt's. I don't think this is a horrible promotion, but the fact that you cannot transfer dollars (like they do in Hollywood) is a bit annoying. But the question was asked, why can't this be used for food comps and the reason is the poker room and the company on the whole makes MORE money having it specifically for tournaments, rather than anything else.

The actual reason is to make the WPT event seem more successful so they can get more in the future easier.

Also, larger fields mean larger prize pools which is good advertising in itself.

I don't think it's a horrible promotion either. I just don't like seeing misconceptions like your bolded statement stated as fact when it is only an unconfirmed assumption. IMO, I'm pretty sure the company on the whole would make more money on $200 spent on meals than $200 spent on a $175 + $25 tournament, for example.

I would guess that of the $200 in comp dollars spent on meals, it costs them only $100 rather than the $175 for the tournament. So, for a $200 tournament, they would get to keep $25 profit from the jackpot pool; but for $200 in meals, they would get to keep $100 profit from the jackpot pool.

So your assumption is simply not true. Besides, what would attract more players to the room: $3/hr in comp dollars which can be spent on anything including the WPT tournaments, or $3/hr in comp dollars that can be spent only on the WPT tournaments?

The real answer might be more along the lines of what AlexM said:
In the end, it all boils down to the same thing at THR imo: poor thinking and planning by the poker room staff and management. I'm sure that there are 100 people playing at the poker room any given week that could do a better job at running the room. I'm pretty sure I could.

I think we're on safe ground assuming that it's unlikely the casino manager rushes down to high-five the cardroom room manager when food & beverage profits are up.

I'm sure it's equally safe to assume that the cardroom manager is not in much danger of being called out on the carpet to explain why food & beverage missed expectations....




Plus what Alex said.

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Chopped the freeroll 9 handed for $1267. (Happened to get in as number 192. There actually was no line for the remaining 10 or so seats. Who knew?) Good times.

I doubt that many players choosing between THR, Derby, and Silks would pick against THR because the $3 an hour is only good for the tournaments. They already get their .60, or $1, as is, and that will continue. Its not like they lose anything by the promotion. Its just that they wouldn't necessarily use it.

You have more exprience there than I, but I hardly ever hear players at 1-3 or 2-5 saying that they chose THR that day based on comps.

How many AI's did you win?

I got 16th machi I think I was seated next to u on the bubble in the black hoody

ya i got there at 11:30ish to play cash and the supervisor announced 20 tickets left come to the cashier if you wanna play. You had to register right there at the window, no selling tickets or transferring seats.

Hmmm. So 100s of players don't rush to the room to get freeroll tickets anymore? I wonder why...

Ron,

I actually don't think I was ever called all in by anyone who covered me the whole time, other than early with AA vs. top pair on the turn. Not because I was a monster stack (they don't really exist), though I was healthy most of the time. It's just ridiculously easy to chip up in these things. I saw a lady in the big blind with a good sized stack tank for 2 minutes facing a 4 bb shove from utg. She finally says, "I can't do it,"... and mucks AJ.

Also, guy in bb was literally facing a 2bb shove. He tank-folded 7-9 for the min-raise. Also, lady open-limped the button with 10's and folded to my bet from bb on JJ2 board. And on, and on, and on.

So the moral of the story is, if you've got 7 bb's or more, you're sittin' pretty. Shove and take it. Raise and take it. Stare intently at the pot and take it. Good stuff. I'll actually try to play the next one.

Snapcall,

Yes, that was me. Pleasure doing business with you.

Yes, I saw much of the same. My easy shove, take it was Pre flop after 3 limpers at 400/800/50 and we all had around 8-10k and I shoved from the bb and the 1st limper tanks for 30 seconds and calls with KK, it was not a slowplay with the limp and not an act in the tank.

Yea the folds people were making from the BB was hilarious! GG machi I finished 16th after I shoved for 100k got called by a shorties KQ and the BBs JJ GG me

U played very well machi congrats on the chop!

Oh had 10s

The above stories regarding pathetic folds by the small or the big to random 2 and 4 BB shoves is exactly why I've about come to the point where I conclude that Florida low BI MTT tourneys are superior value relative to cash games filled with regs.

Despite the usually hideous structure and absurdly high tourney rakes, at some point the timid nits who don't even consider ranges and their own odds of catching up make it all worthwhile.

I am playing today and an old man regular is at my table that has plenty of money and 5k probably doesn't make much of a difference to. The hourly casino drawings were going on for 5k per hour today that you can see on some of the TV's in the poker room.

So with 2.5 minutes left on the clock and needing to get to the center bar to claim it before the clock runs out, another regular that knows this guys name spots it on the screen and tells him. The old guy runs to the center bar and collects 5k. There is no way he collects if this other guy doesn't tell him his name is up there.

The old man comes back to the table and doesn't even throw the guy $20 or $50 for alerting him. For the next hour others at the table keep hinting that he should hook the guy up and he wouldn't say a word, finally one time he said "what, I am supposed to give him something?" and still gave him nothing. Amazing.

How long did the last couple freerolls last ? (hours)

$2-$5?

What a tool. I'd have given the guy $300, easy. Let him buy in with it and play once on me, for fun.

1/2nl.

Seriously just awful! A lot of people rag on the so called younger players for poor manners and etiquette but some of the old nits at THR are just nasty to play with....I was playing there in March and a younger guy who is a semi reg hit a high hand and bought the whole table a shot plus a drink of their choice, no restrictions, it was very generous...sometime later an old guy who I presume is a regular because all the dealers knew him hits a st8 flush v. another huge hand which was either an A hi flush or boat, and then tells the guy who had the other big hand "don't bother to try to bust me, it's not happening" in a sarcastic way, then later when they pay him for the HH he turns to the guy next time him makes some comment about the table being crazy if they think he's buying a round (he did get a drink from the other guy who bought before him, didn't even offer that guy a drink!)

I know we can't name names per se, but could you give a description with some hints. I don't play there as much but I do know some of the old day timers and I can think of a few who I would suspect would do this...I'd love to know, never slow rolled anyone but this might be a good reason to start! Tx

I walked thru the new building that is partially open tonight and its Huge, especially behind the curtain that they have not opened up yet. I think its 30,000-32,000 sq ft additional to bring it to 220,000 sq ft total gaming space next month when it opens.
Will be 3rd largest in US and 7th largest in the world.

Any good poker room managers hiding behind those curtains?

Two things about the drawings today:

1) I was at the food court when they called someone whose name was drawn. The deal was "Seminole Hi-Low". You pick a card, then choose whether the next card will be higher or lower. The first correct guess pays $250, and I assume subsequent guesses pay more. The announcement said you "could win up to $5000". So I'm guessing your guy made significantly less than that, unless you heard something specific, Ron.

2) The guy who was selected while I was out there (not your guy, Ron; it was later) pulls a jack to start. The girl on the microphone asks him "higher or lower" for the next card. He says, "higher." She pretends she didn't hear him (obviously hinting that he should change his answer). He repeats, "higher." She's nice enough to ask him one more time. He sticks with higher. The next card is a three. Thanks for playing, sir. Poor guy. I mean, how could you see that coming?

A-*****-MAZING. (I now repeat in my head: "we're all God's children, we're all God's children, we're all part of the human family, not going to say anything about mouth-breathing, nickel slot pushing droolers who chain-smoke their rent money away-- oh wait, they don't pay rent in Section 8 housing-- and complain to their old lady that the goddamn Indians have ever'thin' rigged and stacked the deck so he couldn't win nothin' in that daggum game, and we shoulda finished off their asses at the Alamo or whatever the hell it was, and-- NO. We're all God's children. So I'm not going to say anything like that.)