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07-10-2010 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by tomjoad50
How many tables were running after 1 am?
At 1a all the tables were still full, by 4a it was probably down to about half.

A few other notes,... Bathrooms - as a few people mentioned they are wayyyy too far. Drink Service - A waitress was just bringing drinks to a table next to us when i sat down, didnt take any orders, and i did not see another one the rest of the night, terrible. I was just thinking they may have come while i was journeying to the bathroom, but i doubt that because i didnt go at all til i was on my way out - i was by no means hydrated. Access - Great! Self parking is really easy, you come down the elevators and its right there. I dont think this room could be any easier to get to. Valet is free for players, but it would be pointless since the main entrance is on the other side of the casino, and self parking was really easy, even on likely one of the busiest days ever.
Someone mentioned about getting the gold and platinum level players club cards, i think thats gonna be pretty rough playing any table games. I dont know how Rivers works exactly, but usually the rewards cards are much more geared towards the slots players.
A few more people knocked the dealers, i must have been lucky. Like i said, all but one were extremely efficient, and the other one by no means slowed the game down. Maybe graveyard shift is better, i mentioned before that i saw a bunch of familiar dealers from mountaineer
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07-10-2010 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by PittsburghKid4
Once our computers are working seating players will be much easier. The Bravo system has a text message feature that we also plan to use. Thanks for the patience and hope to see you again.
Look forward to this. You cant heard the pages for players if your more than 20ft from the desk area, which was kinda hectic.
One minor issue with getting a seat - When I saw my name was next on the list, but was not blinking (blinking names were the ones paged) i figured i would use the restroom, buy my chips, and should be about good to sit. When i came back from the restroom, my name was gone completely! One of the guys said i wasnt on the list at all, then the other one said they just opened a new table and the system must have put me there, so i sat right down, problem solved. Until my player card didnt work, of course.
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07-10-2010 , 01:06 PM
min TR Fri9/9-Sat9/10 10pm-7am

Made my first trip to The Rivers. Arrived at the poker room about 10pm and there was a line just to be able to get your name on a list. I expected there to be an hour or more wait, but DID NOT expect this. Kinda sucked to wait...but w/e, there were a few T.V.s right near the Reg. Desk so at least we were able to watch our buccos give up a 1 run lead in the 9th and lose in extras

After about a 45 minute wait, i got on both the 2/5 and 1/3 lists.. The one suit said 2-3 hour wait for 1/3 and 1-2 hour wait for 2/5 so I figured I'd have plenty of time to grab a bite then get a rewards cards.

I ate at Ciao right next to the room,(there was a small line) had a slice and a milkshake and it was decent and not extremely overpriced..

Then went to grab a rewards card(even though bravo is down). There was a line here too and it was long so i said f it, I'll get it next time

I decided to play a lil BJ or TH bonus to kill sometime but as I walked around through all the table games, every seat was taken, with 1 and 2 rows deep waiting behind..it was crazy. I was not giving any slots my money so all I could do is wait. I was so irritated.


After a little more than an hour, they announced that anyone who was on the 2/5 list and hasn't been seated to come forward and I quickly grabbed a seat, just until a 1/3 came open.

There was one notable hand i got into in the short time I was at this table. HU-facing a river bet of $165 into a $200+ pot from the OR and aggressor post flop on A10xxx brd. Somehow found that a call made sense w/ TPWK. Showed J10. I took down a nearly $400+ pot and it seemed to be a good start to the night in my first hour.

I decided to grab the next 1/3 seat that came open.

Players at my table were typically all bad, which is what I expected.

afa dealers are concerned, my table was rly rly bad. From 9 total hands dealt in 1 orbit to players being dealt 3 cards to exposing cards as their being dealt to the player, it was actually brutal. A player to my right actually got up and left bec. it became so bad. I could go on and on but I think you get the point. I was one of the one of the few who tried to be more positive about all the mistakes and encouraged them. But most of my table would all chuckle out loud.
I was speaking with one dealer and he informed me of the 130ish deals, 75 have never dealt in other casinos. And of the other 55 who have, some of them are suits and not dealers. I just hope things get better soon.




I agree with others about how spacious the room is. Comfy chairs. The Floor handled things well for the most part.

There was a pretty big issue on a ruling which was very confusing. I might bring it up later but it has to with when there are 3 ppl in a hand, player a, b, and c. They are postflop and player a makes a bet, player b raises, and player c looks at his and before folding shows the hand to a player not in the hand.
Their rule is, "show one, show all'. SO player c has to show the whole table his hole cards, including the 2 still in the hand.
Apparently, one floor earlier in the day ruled it one way, and it was ruled another way later in the night. I'm really not sure but I'd like to hear what others think, including Garret.


WHile my session started really well early, it fizzled as the night went on. I won my share of pots, but also lost more than I should. Disappointment

Ended 6.5-7 hour session-+100

Room overall, some things could be better, others I like a lot.I plan to frequent The RIvers often.


later

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07-10-2010 , 01:19 PM
I only had one problem with the whole no bet line thing. I went to cut my chips and ended up making a bet that was 1/2 of what I actually wanted to bet. Now I'm just calling out a number before I cut, not too hard.

Most of the dealers I've had the past couple days weren't too bad. Seemed most of them actually had experience, because people at the table knew them from WV.

The only dealer I didn't really like was the guy that has CP or whatever. He shorted me change like every single hand i was involved in. Had to keep telling him "you owe me 2", "you owe me 4". It got kinda annoying after a while actually.

All in all though I love the room and have been having a good time down there. I've been getting there before the waitlists. I haven't really had any action at the tables though. I'd gladly tip the floor to find me a fishy table!

First night I was there, had a table with a bunch of weak/tights. Only ended up making $97, just couldn't get any action out of anyone.

Yesterday was a little better, ended up making 205. Couple of fish at the table, but they were rebuying for like 50. Had one lady sit at the table with 100x whites.
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07-10-2010 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by fellfold
I played between 12am and 6am Saturday. When I walked up to the desk to sign up the staff was pretty disorganized about taking people in order. After 10 minutes of having people signed in ahead of me I had to finally interrupt and get on the list. The Guy at the desk tried to convince me the Guy to my left was the line, but I had to point out that line didn't form until after I got there. No one complained.

I got on the 4/8 limit and 1-3 nl lists. Which were long. However after a few minutes of standing around, a floor Guy asked me what I was waiting for. He found me an open 4/8 seat. So much for the list? Also, the boards said there was only one 4-8 table when there were really at least two.

The opposition was pretty soft. I netted a $210 win playing mostly tight. Nothing spectacular. Plenty of terrible players. Plenty of extremely predictable ones.

After some point, our tables bank was like $40 short. Between each down the floor had to be called. Big pain.

Most of the dealers seemed a bit green, but there seemed to be a couple experienced ones. No one atrocious, though. They were also accommodating in getting the floor to give us a break on the take when we got 5 handed.

I ended up getting some food around 4am when they did last call for food. That came quickly. However, after that point cocktail service became terrible. Well, non-existent. I asked about 3 or 4 dealers if they could ask the floor to summon a cocktail server. None ever showed up. Come to think of it, I'm not sure if I ever saw any of them ask the floor. Cards get distracting. I'm still thirsty now. Needless to say, in my last two hours there I did not see a single cocktail girl come by. Rough.

I am looking forward to the comp system being instituted. Anyone know how to get to the two or three diamond levels of the players card? I saw a few people with them, but there is no literature on it on the website.

Anyway, I understand the kinks are the result of the room being new and have no reason not to believe things wont get smoothed out soon.

I work in downtown and stay up late anyway, so I imagine I will be back. A lot.
We played together I was seat 1 when you got there, I am guessing you were seat 8?

ddd
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07-10-2010 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by railsphy03
There was a pretty big issue on a ruling which was very confusing. I might bring it up later but it has to with when there are 3 ppl in a hand, player a, b, and c. They are postflop and player a makes a bet, player b raises, and player c looks at his and before folding shows the hand to a player not in the hand.
Their rule is, "show one, show all'. SO player c has to show the whole table his hole cards, including the 2 still in the hand.
Apparently, one floor earlier in the day ruled it one way, and it was ruled another way later in the night. I'm really not sure but I'd like to hear what others think, including Garret.
Same thing happened at my table - the women to my left showed the guy to my right her pocket 4's before folding preflop to a 3bet. the dealer immediately grabbed the cards and yelled 'pocket 4s exposed' - everyone at the table was like 'what the hell?' and she got real defensive and said 'show one, show all.' To which the table said, that's good and fine, but wait until the end of the hand to show all - not while action is still ongoing. Nobody in the hand saw the cards and it just confused everyone. Floor was called to clarify just because all 10 of us were pissed at such a dumb rule and the floor said that the dealer was correct, and that nobody should show anyone cards at any point since it 'ruins the integrity of the game.'

Garret - can you please clarify, or get this rule so that the cards are exposed after the hand concludes since it ruins play for the rest of the players still in the hand?
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07-10-2010 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Urielx
I only had one problem with the whole no bet line thing. I went to cut my chips and ended up making a bet that was 1/2 of what I actually wanted to bet. Now I'm just calling out a number before I cut, not too hard.

Most of the dealers I've had the past couple days weren't too bad. Seemed most of them actually had experience, because people at the table knew them from WV.

The only dealer I didn't really like was the guy that has CP or whatever. He shorted me change like every single hand i was involved in. Had to keep telling him "you owe me 2", "you owe me 4". It got kinda annoying after a while actually.

All in all though I love the room and have been having a good time down there. I've been getting there before the waitlists. I haven't really had any action at the tables though. I'd gladly tip the floor to find me a fishy table!

First night I was there, had a table with a bunch of weak/tights. Only ended up making $97, just couldn't get any action out of anyone.

Yesterday was a little better, ended up making 205. Couple of fish at the table, but they were rebuying for like 50. Had one lady sit at the table with 100x whites.
This is a mistake. Players that bust and rebuy have to rebuy for the table min. This goes the same for players that add onto their stack inbetween hands
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07-10-2010 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PittsburghKid4
This is a mistake. Players that bust and rebuy have to rebuy for the table min. This goes the same for players that add onto their stack inbetween hands
I saw 2 people rebuy yesterday for 50 at my 1/3 table.

Edit: can't remember who the dealer was at the time, but it was the same one.
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07-10-2010 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cowboy.up
Same thing happened at my table - the women to my left showed the guy to my right her pocket 4's before folding preflop to a 3bet. the dealer immediately grabbed the cards and yelled 'pocket 4s exposed' - everyone at the table was like 'what the hell?' and she got real defensive and said 'show one, show all.' To which the table said, that's good and fine, but wait until the end of the hand to show all - not while action is still ongoing. Nobody in the hand saw the cards and it just confused everyone. Floor was called to clarify just because all 10 of us were pissed at such a dumb rule and the floor said that the dealer was correct, and that nobody should show anyone cards at any point since it 'ruins the integrity of the game.'

Garret - can you please clarify, or get this rule so that the cards are exposed after the hand concludes since it ruins play for the rest of the players still in the hand?
Currently the rule at the Rivers Casino is a show one show all at any time. Dealers are instructed to be warning players in these first few days before actually exposing hands.
Personally I think this rule has pros and cons. Regardless I am working to get this rule changed to cards being shown at the end of the hand to protect the integrity of the game.
As of right if you show you hand to your neighbor and the floor is called, your hand will be exposed.
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07-10-2010 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PittsburghKid4
Currently the rule at the Rivers Casino is a show one show all at any time. Dealers are instructed to be warning players in these first few days before actually exposing hands.
Personally I think this rule has pros and cons. Regardless I am working to get this rule changed to cards being shown at the end of the hand to protect the integrity of the game.
As of right if you show you hand to your neighbor and the floor is called, your hand will be exposed.
This happend today but was in a hand where a shorter stack went all in on the turn and was forced to turn his cards up so the other two players[still with money behind] finished the hand. I think the rule as it stands is pretty bad and leaves alot of room for people to be taken advantge of. Would be much better if dealers are told to pull the exposed hand to the side and expose it after all action is completed. But thats my 2 cents FWIW
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07-10-2010 , 11:04 PM
Does anyone know any quirky rules being applied; such as straddles, buying the button, able to flip cards over in a hu pot without being declared dead, etc.
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07-11-2010 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by PittsburghKid4
One dollar an hour for players comps once our system is up and running
At the Meadows, a floor person stated that they comp .50/hr, and that they want to move that to $1/hr once they get permission from PA. A player mentioned that the Rivers is comping $1/hr, and the floor answered that they can't do that yet. According to him, both the Meadows and Rivers are in the same boat, and both rooms will require permission from the state to move to $1/hr.

I'm guessing that the Meadows probably is correct here, since they have a jump on the Rivers in terms of management staff and getting things rolling. But I'm rooting for both rooms to get that $1/hr, of course.
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07-11-2010 , 04:59 AM
Finally some humor in this thread.

But as far as comps go I was told by the director of marketing that poker player comps would be close to a dollar an hour. If that changes ill let everyone know.
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07-11-2010 , 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by chilwad8132
Does anyone know any quirky rules being applied; such as straddles, buying the button, able to flip cards over in a hu pot without being declared dead, etc.


One straddle permitted to the left of the big blind for double the BB value.

Cannot buy the button

HU cards may be exposed with no penatly

We do have a few house rules pertaining to string betting and exposing cards. See previous posts and feel free to ask a supervisor when you arrive for better clarification.
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07-11-2010 , 09:54 AM
BTW, Fri nite I seen seen a friend walking through the casino and he showed

me a picture that he took earlier in the night with Gene Simmons..LOLOL


Any others see him there?

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07-11-2010 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by PittsburghKid4
One straddle permitted to the left of the big blind for double the BB value.

Cannot buy the button

HU cards may be exposed with no penatly

We do have a few house rules pertaining to string betting and exposing cards. See previous posts and feel free to ask a supervisor when you arrive for better clarification.
Cool, thanks man. Looking forward to my first trip there today.
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07-11-2010 , 11:38 AM
New poster here. I'll throw my two cents in regarding the room.

Overall, the room was great and much better than bumbling around local firehalls in the underground games of the past years. There are a few small problems but almost all are easily correctable, though some we may be stuck with for a while.

The Bravo system wasn't working at my table. We were told that we could let management know once the system was fixed and they would be happy to credit us the hours. Hopefully this is true.

The new dealers were making too many mistakes and were rather slow, but I suspect the ones that fit this profile won't be around after the first few months.

We still were unable to use chips to pay cocktail waitresses for drinks but could tip with them. Also, some glasses did not fit in the cup-holders. Surely these will be phased out.

Tables were way too tight for ten players. Short of getting all new tables, we are probably stuck with this one. Maybe they can switch to 9 players.

I'm anxious to see what kind of turnout this room gets during weeknights.
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07-11-2010 , 08:38 PM
After playing Friday night, Saturday night, and just getting back from a session today, I have to amend my previous comments about the dealers. I must have just had the most awful luck that first night, or maybe the big crowd just got to the newer dealers, but after going through last night and today I can say I'm very pleased with the dealers. There was a huge string of very efficient, fast, and friendly dealers that made me forget about that first night which was filled with dealers fumbling cards, talking to players, and just being slow and out of touch. I'm glad this situation has improved, or maybe as I said it was just a small sample and some bad luck. FWIW I was there about 5 hours Friday, 4 last night, and 5 today. Played 4/8 today and 1/3 the other 2 nights.

I don't like how far the bathroom is from the poker room but everything else I'm getting very used to and it seems like this room will be a great place to go when people want a legitimate poker spot.

I also am very interested to see how the traffic is on weeknights.

It would be nice if the Pirates were competitive, it would probably bring a lot more people (fish) into the area who may gamble, esp on the weekends. Nothing Rivers can do about that though unless they buy the team lol
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07-11-2010 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by railsphy03
BTW, Fri nite I seen seen a friend walking through the casino and he showed

me a picture that he took earlier in the night with Gene Simmons..LOLOL


Any others see him there?
Was that really him? I saw him and thought it but must of gotten involved in a hand and forgot about him!
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07-12-2010 , 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by railsphy03
BTW, Fri nite I seen seen a friend walking through the casino and he showed

me a picture that he took earlier in the night with Gene Simmons..LOLOL


Any others see him there?
Ahh, your friend met the infamous Frank from Ambridge. That guy looks more like Gene Simmons than Gene himself!! Frank is everywhere! I see him at Pirate games all the time. He seems to be as big of a marketing genius as Simmons too!
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07-12-2010 , 02:08 AM
Hey guys, I have recently just went to the rivers once on thursday for the public grand opening for the table games at the casino and again Saturday night/ Sunday morning...

Everything is very nice and comfortable , basically its just your typical poker casino..

I would just like to talk about one thing..."String Betting" on the poker tables. Does "The Rivers" have a string bet policy at all? I was just wondering because , granted i do know that most of the dealers are new and are going to mess up regarding the rules, dealer chip position , blinds etc... but i have noticed that there is a large amount of players that string bet ALLLL the time and it is one of my biggest things i cannt stand when playing at a casino. The dealers say nothing at all, they say nothing regarding "string Betting" and also when a player disrespects the table by throwing his bet or chips into the pot..or "splashing the pot" in a way that the chips fly halfway down the damn table or get mixed into other players chips...

In my opinion this is crap. and the dealers need to get a grip on some of the players and draw the line somewhere. Theses dealers are very inexperienced and new. But bottom line is , what is up with the string bets?? is it allowed at the Rivers Casino or what???


ps. also i would like to add that i found this extremely funny...Every instance that there was a disagreement with the ruling regarding blinds, button position, and betting with the player/players and dealer , the dealer was always Wrong! I dont know if my mind serves me right here but isnt it suppose to be the other way around??

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07-12-2010 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Evil Ace
Hey guys, I have recently just went to the rivers once on thursday for the public grand opening for the table games at the casino and again Saturday night/ Sunday morning...

Everything is very nice and comfortable , basically its just your typical poker casino..

I would just like to talk about one thing..."String Betting" on the poker tables. Does "The Rivers" have a string bet policy at all? I was just wondering because , granted i do know that most of the dealers are new and are going to mess up regarding the rules, dealer chip position , blinds etc... but i have noticed that there is a large amount of players that string bet ALLLL the time and it is one of my biggest things i cannt stand when playing at a casino. The dealers say nothing at all, they say nothing regarding "string Betting" and also when a player disrespects the table by throwing his bet or chips into the pot..or "splashing the pot" in a way that the chips fly halfway down the damn table or get mixed into other players chips...

In my opinion this is crap. and the dealers need to get a grip on some of the players and draw the line somewhere. Theses dealers are very inexperienced and new. But bottom line is , what is up with the string bets?? is it allowed at the Rivers Casino or what???


ps. also i would like to add that i found this extremely funny...Every instance that there was a disagreement with the ruling regarding blinds, button position, and betting with the player/players and dealer , the dealer was always Wrong! I dont know if my mind serves me right here but isnt it suppose to be the other way around??

WOw very surprised to hear this. If you've read through the thread and also from personal experience, if anything the dealers were calling this quite a bit.

Without announcing a bet amount verbally, if you have 75 in reds in your hand and make a forward move towards the pot, and proceed to cut the checks in 25 stacks, I've seen multiple times the dealer will call as a raise to 25(the 1st stack of 3 that you cut out). Like I said, earlier in the thread, I think Garrett even clarifies that this is a house rule and is how it will be called.

I'm assuming this is what you mean when you say "string raise".
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07-12-2010 , 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by railsphy03
BTW, Fri nite I seen seen a friend walking through the casino and he showed

me a picture that he took earlier in the night with Gene Simmons..LOLOL


Any others see him there?

Mister Rapini sir mister sir mod, you removed the pics I posted?

This was that much of an issue? You could of left the beautiful hunny at least.




I made my 2nd appearance Sunday afternoon for a 4 hour sess.
Was quite a bit action a both the 1/3 and the 2/5 tables i was at.

In one hand, with Ax after my pfr, I made a stab in a HU pot ott vs. a player that just sat down. He makes the call and the rivers check check. Brd read something like KK399. When he flips over 85o, I was surprised to say the least, lol. It feels like Xmas all over again!!

Most of my dealers were good. When you get one of the dealers who hasn't had prior experience, it can be really bad...some def worse than others.

The main issue I have is when their banging out only 8-9-10 hands in almost an hour.
That can be very frustrating.

Everything else I'm very pleased with. Anxious to hear some of the ideas they have regarding tearny's.

Also...ATTN: GARRET--will you be getting a website together for the room and if so, when??

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07-12-2010 , 12:22 PM
Any word on tournaments yet? Im heading to Meadows and Rivers on Friday. Table game question, I noticed on the website that these casinos are not spreading Let it Ride or 4 card poker? Is that correct? Any good 4/8 or 5/10 limit games going? What about PL Omaha?
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07-12-2010 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by WVUFtblFan
Any word on tournaments yet? Im heading to Meadows and Rivers on Friday. Table game question, I noticed on the website that these casinos are not spreading Let it Ride or 4 card poker? Is that correct? Any good 4/8 or 5/10 limit games going? What about PL Omaha?
They're mostly doing a lot of 1/3, and 2/5. Whenever they get the interest for another game they'll spread it. Yesterday I think there was 1 or 2 PLO tables whenever I was there (compared to 10ish 1/3 tables).

Also glad the bravo is working now!
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