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So you think you'd pay less in a standard raked game vs. the five dollar time? The only way that's possible is if PLO deals less than ten hands a push witch it has every time I've played in it.

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04-13-2015 , 11:02 AM

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As2s3s4s5s

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I think its breakeven at worst. Any decent dealer should easily deal 20 hands / hr at PLO. But that's besides the point and not the reason for my original post. Raking pots without a flop is greedy and poor customer service.

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04-13-2015 , 01:20 PM

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sheriffolds

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Originally Posted by As2s3s4s5s

I don't think that's normal. I would check on that with the floor maybe the dealt was mistaken.

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04-13-2015 , 07:23 PM

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BJballs

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Originally Posted by sheriffolds

I don't think that's normal. I would check on that with the floor maybe the dealt was mistaken.

What is not normal? Rivers rakes even if there's no flop, always has.

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04-13-2015 , 07:52 PM

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As2s3s4s5s

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Originally Posted by BJballs

What is not normal? Rivers rakes even if there's no flop, always has.

I understand that they always have. I am saying that the practice of doing so is not normal in bigger poker rooms / markets. To be honest judging from the responses in this thread I wouldn't change a single thing if I was the manager. You guys are getting over raked and don't even know any better or care.

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04-13-2015 , 10:39 PM

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BJballs

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Originally Posted by As2s3s4s5s

I was not talking to you. Sheriffolds suggested it could've been a mistake the dealer raked preflop. I was trying to clarify that it was not a mistake and Rivers has always taken rake preflop.

I whole-heartedly agree that they should not rake if there is no flop. My complaints have fallen on deaf ears.

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04-14-2015 , 11:54 PM

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bpb

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At least in 1/3 NL if there's a raise preflop and everyone folds there's no rake, since the pot doesn't hit $10.

In 4/8 limit, as soon as someone raises they're taking a rake. Everyone to the left of the raiser could drop dead and Rivers is still getting their money.

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04-18-2015 , 12:27 PM

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warped

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Will be in the area tonight so thinking about stopping down. What's the likelihood any omaha or stud games will be running?

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04-18-2015 , 12:53 PM

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sjrosswog

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Originally Posted by warped

Will be in the area tonight so thinking about stopping down. What's the likelihood any omaha or stud games will be running?

Omaha will most likely be running. Stud not so much. But hey start a list maybe you can get a game going.

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04-18-2015 , 01:19 PM

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warped

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Originally Posted by sjrosswog

Omaha will most likely be running. Stud not so much. But hey start a list maybe you can get a game going.

Cool. Will likely head up later then. Thanks!

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04-21-2015 , 04:55 PM

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EatMyDitka

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Did one of the floor quit/get fired?

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04-23-2015 , 02:22 AM

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RESTRAIN THIS

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Originally Posted by EatMyDitka

Did one of the floor quit/get fired?

Yes, and since you asked, I'm assuming you know who it is already. I won't go into too much detail, but feel free to PM me

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04-23-2015 , 05:24 AM

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frommagio

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Originally Posted by EatMyDitka

Did one of the floor quit/get fired?

People quit all the time. But if someone was fired, that's interesting because it says something was going wrong in the room.

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04-24-2015 , 01:37 PM

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thirty___three

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http://www.twitch.tv/claudico_vs_dougpolk/mobile
This is going on down there right now.

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04-26-2015 , 09:45 PM

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monkeyfart

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Preflop rake on any pot over 10 dollars is state law.

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04-27-2015 , 11:25 AM

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Dantes

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Originally Posted by monkeyfart

Preflop rake on any pot over 10 dollars is state law.

You say that as if it's out of the hands of the casino and they didn't write the state law.

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04-27-2015 , 02:42 PM

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EvilGreebo

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Originally Posted by Dantes

You say that as if it's out of the hands of the casino and they didn't write the state law.

Because the Rivers is the ONLY casino in PA with a poker room and completely controlled the entire process surrounding the rake procedures...

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04-27-2015 , 04:08 PM

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monkeyfart

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Originally Posted by Dantes

You say that as if it's out of the hands of the casino and they didn't write the state law.

Interesting, I didn't think of it @ that level.

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04-28-2015 , 10:11 AM

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Dantes

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Originally Posted by EvilGreebo

Because the Rivers is the ONLY casino in PA with a poker room and completely controlled the entire process surrounding the rake procedures...

Not saying that, I'm saying they lobby together. Just like they did to insist that the rake for internet poker is artificially high so as not to compete with the established cartel. It's not a secret.

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04-29-2015 , 04:57 PM

#2570

BJballs

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Anyone going to Cleveland for the $1500 200k guarantee?

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05-03-2015 , 05:04 PM

#2571

bpb

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Originally Posted by monkeyfart

Preflop rake on any pot over 10 dollars is state law.

No it isn't. See 637a.17.b.2. They could use an incremental rake schedule instead of a flat percentage and collect the first $1 at $20 or whatever.

You may have a point that the current gaming regs don't permit "no flop no drop". I'm not convinced that wouldn't be trivially easy to amend though.

http://gamingcontrolboard.pa.gov/fil...ons_Master.pdf

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05-14-2015 , 12:44 PM

#2572

sheriffolds

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There a 10/20 OE going today game is going to try and start around 2

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06-02-2015 , 11:32 AM

#2573

bigdaddy7399

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Any predictions for number of players in poker room during the end of June Poker Challenge? Planning to play Tuesday through Sunday.

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06-02-2015 , 04:51 PM

#2574

TR3V

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easy money right here, I'll be there ........ come and take it

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06-03-2015 , 07:29 AM

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bigdaddy7399

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Originally Posted by TR3V

easy money right here, I'll be there ........ come and take it

Or I'll come donate to you, or better yet maybe we can chop up somebody else's.

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