I'm with you and quite sad that 8-16 is often on life support. I find it less enjoyable to play when you are always thinking about the game breaking.
15-30 is a great game, but I'm not quite yet rolled to play it on a consistent basis. 4-8 is a tad too low.
Ari, what is the management's viewpoint on this?
I love the 8-16, but realize that it struggles some days.

I think the $10 chip has been applied for with PA Gaming. If so, that's the good news.

Bad news (for you & your friends) is that I doubt that Ari is going to spread 40-80. The 10's would be used in the 30-60 game (and maybe some of the higher NL games).

10-20, 20-40 & 40-80 are not in the Parx game spread.

Thanks for the info, I'll pass it along

In regards to the scuzzy chips:

I always have a bottle of hand sanitizer on me. It's great for whne you feel that "need" to clean your hands

Cool, I'd be interested. But yes, I don't think the plan is to spread 40/80. 30/60 has been picking up steam, and will be even better once we get $10 chips, which are in the works. Perhaps 60/120 would be the next level, but for that we'd ideally want $20 chips. (Another option would be 75/150 with greens, but that is quite a jump over 30/60.)

In the meantime, if you want to try bigger than 30/60, I think Ari would at least temporarily agree to spread 50/100, although I don't particularly love the 2 chip/4 chip structure.

too bad it doesn't show 10/25, which is part of what he was asking by saing 5/10+

Perhaps one reason 8/16 is hurting is the time charge. $5 is the standard charge for a 10/20 game...it's irksome to pay the same charge for a smaller game. I've always thought the time charge for that game should be $4...works much better and saves time with the $2 chips too. So a suggestion to Ari for promoting 8/16 would be to adjust the time charge to $4!

As well for the 4-8 games. Factor in tips and you are siphoning out at least $150/hr from the table where people are buying in $100-300. That is a fish/hr.

I agree that the 8-16 has had its struggles, but I believe that is because the pool of 15-30 and 8-16 is not that big yet. As I plan the year of promotions the mid-limit limit games are on our radar. I do appreciate the continued support of this game.

I think that 50-100 would work out great, I remember when the game legs in years past.

Any possibility of posting tourney structure and pay table please Ari?

Your doing great btw...thank you

Yes, I will post the payouts sometime tomorrow. We are paying the top 100!!!!!

ok thanks...is there anyway you can drop the qualifying hours down a little? 60 hours in 30 days at the beginning of the golf season ( I Caddie) might be a little tight. May going forward I'm good. Not a big deal if it can't be lowered...I'll try anyway


[edit] Top 100 is superb!! Looking forward to it for sure.

^^ Golf season or not. Many of us have regular M-F, 9-5 type jobs. That leaves us predominately weekends for poker play. There are other demands on our time, too. Since there are 5 weekends in April, at 8 hours/weekend, that leaves most of us at least 20 hours short.

I'm not complaining, rather just illustrating that there will be a lot of folks that don't make the cut (to put it in golf-speak ) for this event. That said, if they are paying 100 spots, I'm assuming that there will be more enough degenerates qualifying.

I am over the fact that PA poker costs more than other places. IIWII.

Other games have a similar "upcharge" and if you compare 15-30 to Vegas, where they pot rake it at $4 max - then you'd feel that the PA time charge is outrageous... which, honestly, it is. Yet, the games goes everyday here.

Until such time as people stop lining up to to pay the rake in PA, this will never change.

Actually, at 4-8, the same amount of money is going off the table as in other states. Their rake may be $4, but they also take $1 for the BBJ.

The original cast of 8-16 players asked for the time charge vs. rake. This was a money loss for the house, so I doubt that they'd drop the time charge to $4. Although, 80% of something is better than 100% of nothing, if the game can't keep going.