So 1 in 5 got a seat= about 43 runners in the 8pm last year.0


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Thank you very much. I'll be there tonight.

Good luck!


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How well run is the High Hand Bonanza? Does it fill the room? Is it just a giant tire fire?

Wrong chip stacks for Sunday tournament? #rumors

Not a rumor it happened and they ignored it on Twitter

It was an annoying mess. Certain stacks getting topped off, others not.

How did they determine what stacks to top off?

Player A arrives late, 30ish minutes? Calls "Saturday" floor immediately upon sitting down. Complains about his stack being blinded off. Explains that after winning a seat to the main via a satellite the night before, he made sure with "Friday" floor that if he showed up late the next day, that his stack would not be blinded off. "Friday" Floor assured him (lady at my table confirmed this story) that he will not be blinded off. Player A is very upset and insists that he must be given a full starting stack. "Saturday" Floor caves, and tops off Player A's stack to 30k starting stack.

"Saturday" floor then begins removing, I'm assuming, the satellited stacks of late players. I'm guessing they are then topped off upon player arrival. There were a few satellite winners that arrived late, but before the Player A situation, that effectively missed out on a small top up.

SMH

Wow. Just wow.

Two different issues this weekend:

The $1,100 tournament had a number of people satellite in Friday night. Those people were told to register on Friday night, not Saturday morning. A player asked at that time if he would get a full stack even if he sat down late and was told yes. So player complied and showed up in the second level, only to see his stack was blinded down. He complained and because he was right, his stack was topped up. All of this could have been avoided if the room just let the players who satellited in register on Saturday morning but (supposedly) they needed players to register for "computer reasons." Just an odd situation that caused some bad feelings both on the part of the people who satellited in and showed up late, and the people who saw extra chips being given without really understanding the whole story. Could have been avoided though and that's the room's fault. At the end of the day, it's a 1/100 of starting stack issue and a rounding error, even if it did tick off some players.

The second issue, and the one I was asking about was in the Sunday tournament I heard that the starting stacks were different at one table (either too many or too few chips, by a significant amount). I know nothing about that story and would love to get the straight dope there as that one seems more entertaining.

Pertaining to the second issue: The event was 15k starting stack and one table was given 20k. It was brought to attention when a player was felted at the 20k table, rebought, was sat at a different table, and asked why he only received 15k this time.

Can't make any of this stuff up. Total cluster of a weekend.

I just wrote a thread about this but put it in the wrong forum...

Here it is

edit: Also, I made a mistake in the thread. At the point in time when I got knocked out I would have bought back in if the decision was going to be giving the players an extra 5,000 chips. Even if it took me a few minutes to find out that would be the decision I probably would have bought back in. Thats why I called the Gaming commission....

I mean you can dq a player for a floor error. How mad would you be if you 4x your stack and than they say sorry you have to start all over

If I knew it was my responsibility to verify my chip count at the start of the tournament, like it was my responsibility to make sure I got a hand, then I wouldn't care at all.

In this case with no warning I would be upset. But I will guarantee you that the players at that table for some time knew that they had gotten too many chips to begin with. There were a number of regulars with grins on their faces like a cat that had just swallowed the canary.

Had I been at that table I would have spoken up the moment I found out we should have started with 15,000 chips (which would be when a new player was seated and was given only 15,000 chips)...

Given that there was no warning about being responsible for the # of chips received at the start, I think it would have been fairer to just remove 5,000 chips form all players who started at that table. It wouldn't make it totally fair but to just play on is ridiculous.

Seems like there's no correct answer but you are 100% to blame. You should have known better than to play at Mohegan

It is your responsibility to know both the starting sack size and count your chips when you get your stack. Just because it is the room's responsibility to put out the correct stack, this does not relieve you of the responsibility to protect yourself.

This is an overlooked issue. There were certainly players who counted their stacks on sitting and of those players, some surely knew that they got too much. The reality is that there were people who took advantage of the rest of the field. Are these people cheaters? In my view, yes. Someone should have stood up and said that they thought they got too many chips. Integrity matters.
Removing chips is not a good solution. The reasons for that ought to be clear and easy to deduce. The better solution would have been to give each remaining player a 5k chip, bringing all players to the same starting stack. It's not perfect, but it's better than doing nothing. For players who had already busted, there should have been some compensation.

This whole thing is a black eye for the room and its management. The mistake is borderline inexcusable, but the response is worse. The lack of a public apology is also troubling. They have a blog, though they make little productive use of it. That would be a good place to acknowledge responsibility.

Finally, they ought to take the rake from the event and use it to compensate the players, and not by giving them food vouchers. They ought to give each affected player a credit toward a future entry. So if you got shorted here, the next time you show up for an event, you get a discount. Acknowledge mistakes and make it right. That's the way you build goodwill.

Did any WWE stars play any poker today?

This is pure garbage. Are you implying that it is the players responsibility to circle around 15 tables to ensure that nobody has a larger starting stack than you do? This is 100% of whoever was supervising the event.

This is an overlooked issue. There were certainly players who counted their stacks on sitting and of those players, some surely knew that they got too much. The reality is that there were people who took advantage of the rest of the field. Are these people cheaters? In my view, yes. Someone should have stood up and said that they thought they got too many chips. Integrity matters.

It's true that you cannot remove chips from a players stack. I agree with your solution of adding 5k to everyone else as the better option, not ideal of course (there is no ideal here) but better.


I don't agree that the correct business approach is to advertise their error to the many many people who are unaware of what occurred. Be quiet and allow time to pass was the correct practice imo.

I do agree with this. Something more needed to be done even if it was returning their rake however in fairness that wasn't a decision that a supervisor would be able to make on the spot. Even the poker room manager, who was not in the room at the time, would have to go to the poker director prior to issuing any type of rebate. It certainly wasn't going to happen that day in the room and by then players are disbursed and you can't give back to some but not others. Again, falls under no ideal solution.

Last time they played Chyna got it in on the flop but was drawing dead.

Last Monday there was still talk about moving poker room to other end in November.

Can anyone confirm?

What are the chances the pink chip HORSE game will be running Sunday (9/4) or Monday (9/5)? If it will be running, about what time does the game start? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!

Hasn't run in like 5 months.

Because I don't live in the area anymore that's why