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03-09-2017 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by GolfPro
I like the $400 price point (350+50), once a month. Start with a small GTD then increase it depending on the popularity.

It can be similar to the multi flight event that is popular and that runs every month.

I think consistency is a key, running on a specific sunday every month might bring in all the standard players.
+1

I think 500 may be a little too big for the rec player. Maybe 300-400. Or a black chip bounty of the sorts. Regardless, bigger buyin, deep stack, monthly, I'm in.
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03-09-2017 , 02:39 PM
There are already bounty tournaments at Live. It'd be nice to do something different at MGM.
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03-09-2017 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD
All in favor....
In favor but...

Would be much more in favor if it was elsewhere in the casino. The room is already packed with cash games and the inherent issues that have come with that so far. Would really hate to be knocked down to 30 tables - or less - on a Sunday.
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03-09-2017 , 04:08 PM
Start at 11am and permit buys only until 1p or so. The room doesn't seem to get full until a bit later in the afternoon.
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03-09-2017 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
Start at 11am and permit buys only until 1p or so. The room doesn't seem to get full until a bit later in the afternoon.
The weekday tourneys that start at 11 run until at least 7p or so - and I say that only because every time I've left at @ 7p there have still been @ 10 people left. IMO a $4-500 tourney would hopefully have bigger starting stacks and a longer structure - which would only exacerbate this problem.
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03-09-2017 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapini
Lack of proof duly noted.
example was provided, youve done it twice to me, and also there was at least one incident with havoc, so including the two on this page, there have been at least 5 incidents in this thread alone that I can think of.

I sort of always assumed you are a shill. Are you being paid by MGM in any capacity (beyond winnings at the poker table)?
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03-09-2017 , 07:22 PM
To be honest I'm surprised your post wasn't removed. Topics that bring up any (legitimate) criticism of the mods usually get deleted instead of fostering open discussion. (I half expect this one to be removed as well)
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03-10-2017 , 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Tomark
example was provided, youve done it twice to me, and also there was at least one incident with havoc, so including the two on this page, there have been at least 5 incidents in this thread alone that I can think of.

I sort of always assumed you are a shill. Are you being paid by MGM in any capacity (beyond winnings at the poker table)?
Example was not provided. Please feel free to quote the incidents where I "did it" to you. I think you and Havax are crybabies and I said as much more politely before and you responded reasonably iirc. I have no affiliation with MGMNH or MDL.
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03-10-2017 , 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by mdl_player
To be honest I'm surprised your post wasn't removed. Topics that bring up any (legitimate) criticism of the mods usually get deleted instead of fostering open discussion. (I half expect this one to be removed as well)
I'm a normal poster unless it's clear that I'm posting as a moderator. Especially in the MDL, MGMNH, and HB threads, I am a normal poster. Posts regarding moderation belong elsewhere, as you correctly said, but posts that disagree with a moderator who is posting as a regular poster belong in the substantive thread.
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03-10-2017 , 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Rapini
Example was not provided. Please feel free to quote the incidents where I "did it" to you. I think you and Havax are crybabies and I said as much more politely before and you responded reasonably iirc. I have no affiliation with MGMNH or MDL.
Yeah i mean, whatever, maybe i do whine too much, im not offended and point was taken, but its silly for you to pretend like youre not on the other end of the spectrum. Im a crybaby, youre an apologist.

The examples of havoc and I are deligitimizing our complaints with ad hominem. Basically dont worry about their complaints, they are just whiners or nits.

You also advocated for high rake, and really this one i thought couldnt possibly be a real thing someone said

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Originally Posted by Rapini
I lean toward liking the parking fee.
pro parking fees! come on.
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03-10-2017 , 06:44 AM
Searched the thread but couldn't find an exact answer.. Are we allowed to call in for wait lists yet? Only for certain limits?
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03-10-2017 , 07:50 AM
I think it's just time raked games
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03-10-2017 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomark
Yeah i mean, whatever, maybe i do whine too much, im not offended and point was taken, but its silly for you to pretend like youre not on the other end of the spectrum. Im a crybaby, youre an apologist.

The examples of havoc and I are deligitimizing our complaints with ad hominem. Basically dont worry about their complaints, they are just whiners or nits.

You also advocated for high rake, and really this one i thought couldnt possibly be a real thing someone said

pro parking fees! come on.
Indeed I am not on the other end of the spectrum. Shoot Johnny or Mike a PM and ask them if I've had constructive criticism for them. I'm certain they'd tell you that I've been both critical and congratulatory.

We have some of the best-run rooms in the world in MDL and MGMNH. When certain people do nothing but complain, that sends the wrong message to the staff of those rooms and it might someday result in the quality of service going down due to fatigue, decrease in morale, etc. Pointing out this pattern of commentary that is wholly negative is not ad hominem; it's the pattern that matters, not the person.

"[D]ont worry about their complaints, they are just whiners or nits" is close but not quite on point; I am advocating taking those suggestions along with the context of the person who is making them. Someone who complains constantly should be given less attention than someone who has a balanced approach because you're never going to please the former.

I've never advocated for high rake. I have no idea what planet you were on for that one.

Also, taking the parking fee comment out of context is classless and dishonest. Here's the full quote:

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Originally Posted by Rapini
That said, I lean toward liking the parking fee because it will discourage the lower-end customer base from showing up and also encourage Uber or Lyft / discourage drinking and driving.
I stand by that comment.
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03-10-2017 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TheChamp11
Searched the thread but couldn't find an exact answer.. Are we allowed to call in for wait lists yet? Only for certain limits?
When Johnny responds, I'll update the FAQ if it needs to be updated.

Last edited by Rapini; 03-10-2017 at 01:38 PM. Reason: Thanks, Coasterbrad!
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03-10-2017 , 01:23 PM
I know you can call in for the 5 10 NL and 60 120 limit games. You cannot for the 2 5 NL.
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03-10-2017 , 01:33 PM
As for posting "complaints" or criticism, one of the greatest attributes to MGM and Johnny is his willingness to listen to his customers and take our ideas into consideration. When I post a critical opinion of the room, and I think this goes for others itt as well, it is because I know Johnny will understand it is coming from a place of appreciation for his willingness to listen. People are also less likely to post positive things itt even though there are vastly more positives to the room than there are negatives. That's just the nature of this type of thread.

Anyway, let's get back to discussing the room, and not moderation or personal grudges.

You can call in for 5/T and up.

Last edited by Rapini; 03-10-2017 at 01:39 PM.
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03-10-2017 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapini
When Johnny responds, I'll update the FAQ if it needs to be updated.
Verified. We still only take call ins for time raked games.
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03-10-2017 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapini
Indeed I am not on the other end of the spectrum. Shoot Johnny or Mike a PM and ask them if I've had constructive criticism for them. I'm certain they'd tell you that I've been both critical and congratulatory.

We have some of the best-run rooms in the world in MDL and MGMNH. When certain people do nothing but complain, that sends the wrong message to the staff of those rooms and it might someday result in the quality of service going down due to fatigue, decrease in morale, etc. Pointing out this pattern of commentary that is wholly negative is not ad hominem; it's the pattern that matters, not the person.

"[D]ont worry about their complaints, they are just whiners or nits" is close but not quite on point; I am advocating taking those suggestions along with the context of the person who is making them. Someone who complains constantly should be given less attention than someone who has a balanced approach because you're never going to please the former.

I've never advocated for high rake. I have no idea what planet you were on for that one.

Also, taking the parking fee comment out of context is classless and dishonest. Here's the full quote:



I stand by that comment.
I get both sides.... I think to Rapini's point, it becomes tiresome when a player that plays regularly in your room always tells you about the negatives, and never tells you what you do well. In truth, I have received OMs from multiple guests (including Rapini), some with harsh criticism, some with congratulatory praise. I will continue to monitor the forum and try to do what I can to address concerns I see here.
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03-10-2017 , 04:21 PM
To address the most common topic of late, I am aware that either iteration of our comp system is not optimal in anyone's eyes. I am actively looking at other options, and will make changes when I can. These options are not available to me right now.
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03-10-2017 , 06:49 PM
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You can call in for 5/T and up.
5/5 plo too
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03-10-2017 , 07:15 PM
I've played 2/5 with a guy who "calls in" for 5/10 and asks nicely to have his name put on the 2/5 list. Then when he gets there he decides that the 5/10 "isnt a good game" so he'll stick with 2/5. I've seen the call in icon next to 2/5 names more than once.
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03-10-2017 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Coasterbrad
As for posting "complaints" or criticism, one of the greatest attributes to MGM and Johnny is his willingness to listen to his customers and take our ideas into consideration. When I post a critical opinion of the room, and I think this goes for others itt as well, it is because I know Johnny will understand it is coming from a place of appreciation for his willingness to listen. People are also less likely to post positive things itt even though there are vastly more positives to the room than there are negatives. That's just the nature of this type of thread.
Agreed. I'm guilty of coming across as a negative Nancy too, but overall there is much more to love about the room than to dislike, and Johnny's willingness to engage with us itt is a blessing we should not take for granted.
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03-10-2017 , 07:45 PM
+1 on having a monthly $350-500 tournament.

+1,000,000 for not having bounties in any MGM tournament. Bounty-lovers have the option to travel up the road, where nearly every tourney is a bounty.

I would also play regularly if there was a monthly 6-max tournament (would have to run on a weekday of course).
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03-10-2017 , 10:30 PM
No one said you delegitimize complaints with incorrect statements Rapani. I agreed with you that anti straddlers are nits, and your reason for being pro parking fees is beside the point, its just an outrageously apologist point of view. Nearly no one likes parking fees. Its a textbook example of a position for an apologist to take.
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03-11-2017 , 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD
To address the most common topic of late, I am aware that either iteration of our comp system is not optimal in anyone's eyes. I am actively looking at other options, and will make changes when I can. These options are not available to me right now.
Thanks for addressing this, and in response to your post that it can be frustrating just getting complaints, trust me - the ones you're getting prove that you and your employees are doing a great job.

I still can't get over how comfortable the chairs are, and the whole space is awesome. I can see noticeable improvements in the staff running things more smoothly now than back closer to the open, and some of the dealers who were new seem to be improving as you'd expect. I'm confident they'll continue to eliminate the minor issues.

I did see a couple posts about making 2/5 nine-handed, and would certainly love to see that if the traffic has settled down enough.

On the topic of tournaments, anything in the works as far as a series is concerned? (Sorry if it's been asked and answered previously.)

I don't play many daily/weekly tournaments, but if there was something in the $400-$600 range, I'd consider it. I tend to avoid dailies because the buyins are lower and the rake is higher, so the payoff isn't worthwhile.

That said, as a cash player I wouldn't want it to restrict your ability to keep opening games and managing lists as-needed.
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