Completely agree. I dont think anyone would argue solving some of the bigger issues before we start nitting out about what people are wearing or how social a table happens to be.

And, not a news flash, but a lot of poker players are introverts - myself included. Not all of us want to show up and make 9 best friends for the next 12 hours and be yakking nonstop. The most fun social tables I've had in LV had 100% to do with the free alcohol being served and 0% to do with who was wearing what. I still like to think I'm a pretty fun person to play with - I'm just not the kind of player thats going to want to keep analyzing the % breakouts from a particular hand of yours that happened 45 minutes ago because you got sucked out on.

So a bunch of people want to play 10/25 but don't want to buy in for the minimum 60 BBs? This sounds like a pretty dysfunctional game. And it goes against what everyone was saying for months in this thread pressuring MGM to spread deep-stacks games at each level.

I was in no way stating that that was the reason. I was simply pointing out a difference between the 2 games, they are not congruent, so it could be a reason (as irrational as it may be).

Can we get it so the first buy in has to be done at the cage to address the chip refills or can we keep the rack bigger than $1500?

Also any news when we are going to get tier status upgrades for poker?

No. Chip racks will likely be expanded, and as we improve the food service and hire additional chip runners, this issue will sort itself out.

Are the food runners and chip runners the same pool of people? That seems nuts. Even if food is ready at the food court it has to be a 10 minute round trip.

I played on Monday. Opened a new table. When I sat I asked the dealer if I should get chips at the cage. He says "Nah we bring the chips right to you and don't make you wait in line at the cage or go up to the 2nd floor". Then we waited 10 minutes until a floor brought over chips.

Fair enough...thanks Johnny...

Went to MGM tonight and was doing a little drinking - I tried to order a drink and noticed asked it be in a glass and they are doing only plastic cups?????? I think that's a little tacky for a $9 drink.

Any ways I ordered a kettle one with a little olive juice and the thing came looking like exactly olive juice. I ordered the same drink last month and it was the same thing. I told her I asked for just a little olive juice and I guess they can't figure out I only want a small splash in there. So I sent it back and got a beer. The beer was good but I wanted the vodka. Next I ordered a crown on the rocks and that came out fine. Just a little frustrated it came in a plastic cup.

Just one man's opinion, but poker is supposed to be a social game and I think having a no hoodie/no sunglasses policy helps to engender that.

If that's your biggest complaint this is the best card room ever.

I have had a similar problem at MD Live and HS in the poker room -- no glasses. To solve this I go out to one of the main bars where they do have glasses and get my first drink there and then refills in the poker room. A little diversion on my way to the bathroom but at least I get my glass.

Or you could just bring your own glass from home.

Still not sure what happens first:

They put up enough signs in the parking garage so you can easily find the elevators from your car or

I figure out how the lever works to stop the chairs from reclining lol.

There was a ruling yesterday in a PLO game that in a hu pot on the river you can bet more than the pot. The floor enforced that the losing player pay the full amount (much more than the pot) never heard of this. Seems like a terrible rule that only benefits angle shooters. Please remove this rule. No words were spoken the opponent just slid a stack of big chips into a medium sized pot.


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Action offered and accepted when heads up regardless of betting structure or stakes is an old-school concept, but not unheard of. As long as the action was clear and unambiguous, I have no problem with it.

It was mostly to save time in limit games. It could be heads up between 2 players with 50 BB each and instead of going back and forth over and over until they get all-in it allowed them to shortcut to the end. This doesn't seem necessary in pot limit because you'd get there fairly quickly.

Even if 95% of the people know the ruling/ angle you still need to protect those who don't. Many recreational players are going to flip out and you could potentially lose their business for ever because you are allowing ******* regulars to shoot an angle.


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Speaking of PLO it's been an unmitigated disaster not calling down the 1-2 list today. I got here at noon, list was 30 or so. Sat at 2-5 nl and finally at 3p I get called for PLO. The table is near riot because they've had two empty seats for over an hour - with the list around 40.

After 45 minutes they still hadnt filled the last seat. The very nice dealer said screw it and let a random guy sit there who asked. Thank you sir.

It took 50+ minutes to roll one name with the list at 49.

If I were next on the list I'd be pissed at the floors for not doing their job.

If I were next on the list I'd also be pissed at the dealer for letting someone cut in front of me.

Not disagreeing with you. But there was a whole lot of not doing someone's job for almost three hours. Dealer at least put a band aid on the situation and made eight players happy. Otherwise it's been a great table.

Agree; this is a horrible rule that opens up the ability for a regular to angle a novice (or a regular who simply has never heard of such an obscure rule that effectively makes a pot-limit game a no-limit game when heads up).

This scenario could happen, and it's ridiculous. Players are $20k deep. Pot is $100 and is heads up to the river. Player A/S (who knows of this "accepted action" rule) rivers the nuts and verbally declares "all-in" while throwing in a pumpkin. Player NB just has top two and wants to look Player A/S up for $100 and throws in a black chip to call. Under this ridiculous rule, Player NB is obligated to call $20k, not knowing that PLO had turned into NLO once it's heads up.

I don't see the upside of the "accepted action" rule in a PLO game. Please change it.

Mr Grooms,

When it goes check check on the last street, who shows first?

Whatever the answer, please make sure all staff knows this.

Thanks,
Loony

OK, finally made it out to the MGM for my first poker session. My thoughts:

Room was aesthetically nice. Liked having USB ports at the table; hated not having cupholders. I could not locate a slide-under cupholder the entire duration of my 12-hour session, but was able to use a table so it wasn't too big a deal. But for goodness sake, get some more slide-under cupholders in circulation! Think I may need to bring my own from home.

Some peculiar rules re: ordering food/beverages, but nothing I can't adapt to. For example, you order food from a runner, but they are not allowed to bring you drinks. So I had to wait another half hour easily to order a beverage. Food came with no utensils or napkins. And weirdest of all, the food runner could not accept chips or cash from me...what?!? How is cash not acceptable. Since it was my first visit, I had no comps to use, so had to whip out a credit card. What if I didn't want my significant other from knowing I had snuck out to play some poker? Why force me to create a paper trail?

Must move list was poorly managed. How difficult is it to start a must-move list and maintain it when new players sit? Why does the floor have to stop the game for 5 minutes to determine the order, at least two hours after I've been playing? Did I catch them on their first day running a must-move game?!?

When I got to the main game, it took an average of 10 minutes to fill an open seat. Mind you, there is a full must-move game with a deep list that is there for the sole purpose of keeping the main game full. At one point, when there were two open seats for a while, a new player came and sat down. I didn't say anything b/c I wanted the seat filled. It's been four weeks; how can it be so difficult to keep a main game full?

Dealer errors...perhaps new dealers shouldn't deal PLO or time-rake games, where their mistakes are more costly. We had one dealer that could not get the concept that she needed to deal in absent players unless they had a missing blind button. Four straight hands, we had to explain the rule to her, and she would nod and repeat the rule...only to make a mistake (both by failing to deal to a player, or by dealing to a player who had a missing blind button). It puts me on tilt to see someone who is clearly not trained properly, or incapable of understanding basic rules of the game in which they are to be running.

Finally, what is the problem with making PLO games three blinds? Are there players who would rather it be played 5-5 with no third blind of 10? The 5-5 game naturally goes to an auto-straddle, so it's effectively 5-5-10, but (1) there's always a freeloader who declines to straddle or (2) every orbit or so, someone misses their straddle and tries to come back in on their BB, forcing their neighbor to the left to straddle twice, or deprive the button of playing with a straddle for that hand. The courteous thing to do is for the BB to put $5 dead and post $10, but every fourth dealer or so wouldn't allow this....who does this hurt if the BB offers to do this? Regardless, the better way to go is to make it officially a three-blind game of 5/5/10....this seems so simple to me. PLO with two blinds plays so much tighter and less fun that a three-blind structure. I hate to reward nits and scumbag freeloaders with all the benefits of a three-blind game, only for them to opt out of the straddle.

Just checked bravo. Room is full and there are 71 people waiting for 2/5.

I still cannot understand why it's more efficient and good customer service to make customers wait extra and not register in advance to cut their wait time.

If you allowed call ins, you think the list would be shorter?

No, just those who call in would be a bit higher on the list and those who don't would be lower on the list (and be forced to wait even longer).