I don't see where you posted anything about that itt. Johnny? 2017 now?

Here you go.

That post doesn't mention any construction problem

If there was any validity to the 2017 delay I'd be surprised if Johnny would've answered my question this way. Would make sense to be ambiguous if he wasn't certain or he thought there was a good chance it'd be next year.

All the announcements when they began construction was for a target opening in July 2016. So Q4 2016 would already be considered "a delay" from the original planned date.

'Someone at MDL' is probably not the best source. I had someone tell me 6 months ago they knew for a fact who was going to run poker operations and also that the person selected told them that we were guaranteed to get 40 tables. In the absence of information, people like to make things up to sound knowledgeable.

I've seen the 'flood plan' comment a couple of times. Flood plain doesn't mean its on bad soil. It would mean that the ground is low enough that it could get flooded by the Potomac. However, MGM is on a hill. I doubt its in a flood plain. The rest of National Harbor could be, but there would be a lot more to worry about if MGM goes underwater.

The site it was built on is known as Flood Plain Hill. So you're both right.

While I agree that "someone at MDL" is lol, you immediately use "I had someone tell me..."

Yes, I was proving the point. Clearly, months ago that person could not know for sure that Johnny was going to be coming, if it was even Johnny they were referring to, and clearly 6 months ago there was not a firm plan for how many tables there would be, if there isn't a firm plan even now.

Yep, I checked the FEMA website and it's an area called Zone C which means "areas with minimal flooding". It's outside of the 100-year floodplain. I guess that means it is located somewhere between the 100-year and 500-year floodplain which means flooding shouldn't be much of an issue at all. When you look at a picture of it you can see the building sits up higher (to be above the floodplain ldo)

https://msc.fema.gov/portal/search?A...hresultsanchor

If water ever gets up as high as the MGM Casino, it would be catastrophic for this area. It would mean the entire National Harbor area was under water and probably Old Town too.

IE - not worried about that.

Will the opening of the poker room be delayed from the main casino's opening?

I haven't heard anything about that, but it'd be kinda fun if they were to put up a huge tent next to the main complex for us to play in for a couple years like Talking Stick in AZ or Sugar House in PA. I've never played poker in a tent before. It would be one of very few outdoorsy things I could be talked into doing.

Have played at sugar house - Tent is not a feature

If you believe in Global Warming we are all in a 500-year floodplain and many are in the 100-year floodplain. Ha ha.

But it used to be before they built the permanent room.

Sorry, what I meant was that I thought playing in the sugar house tent kinda sucked. I was there on a cold night and was unimpressed with the climate control. I wasn't aware their permanent room was open, as I haven't made it back. Ymmv

and how do you fix a cracked foundation (if true) for a building of this size?

Parts of DC around the National Mall including the Jefferson Memorial, etc would be underwater as well. This would include National Airport and DC's own river harbor project. Joint Base Anacostia-Bolling would be gone as well as DC's sewer treatment plant. I live in the area and pass that site often. Folks, the hill MGM sits on is pretty darn high. The town it resides in is called Oxon HILL. If water ever made it to MGM, the garage would go first. And even still, the garage is at a lower point than the rest of the building as you have to continue to go uphill to get to the actual casino and hotel. A flooded garage is no big deal.

The Potomac flows north to south. So, DC would go under first and then the river gets pretty wide after it passes the DC border at National Harbor which would lessen the chances MGM would go under water.

Old Town is the path of least resistance and would go underwater even in a 10 year flood. That sea-level geography would relieve any flooding pressure toward MGM's direction.

So you're saying there's a chance?

There's always a chance. Just like there's a chance the eastern seaboard could be under 3 ft of water. But I think the main point is that our great-great grandchildren probably wouldn't even witness it in their lifetimes.

Thanks!

Well played. I am definitely not the "buttoned up" type. Those of you who get to know me will learn that I enjoy laughing, having a good time, and creating an atmosphere where people feel comfortable playing.

Thanks for the welcome. We will definitely be bringing an MGM feel to the area. I am excited to put our product out there for the DMV players. I am not sure about the balance of cash game/tourney play. As many of you know, my background came from tournaments, but cash games are substantially more profitable. Any tournament product we put out there (either daily events or major event series) will be a different beast than you have seen in this area. We do business a little different, and I am confident that players will like our product. Many of you have played at the Beau Rivage in Biloxi and Aria and Bellagio in Vegas. There will be some similarities to that room, Aria, and Bellagio, with a little local flair thrown in. I will be soliciting opinions regularly in this thread...

so there will be a free mini-buffet in the poker room all day long!

I get a chance to go to Aria/Bellagio 2-3x a year and they are just leaps and bounds above every other room in Vegas.

One issue/suggestion that Bellagio initially had problems with but corrected after a long while. And thats the problem with just stuffing as many tables as you can into a small space. Bellagio - as comfy as those chairs are and as nice as the room is - at first they just racked and stacked tables in that room and you couldnt...not...move. Any time you tried to slide out you banged the guy behind you. It was awful. Realistically I know that poker is already at the bottom of the revenue rung so it cant be *too* spaced out.

But if its something like Aria and Bellagio? To have a room like this @ 10 minutes from my house is just...its too good to be true lol.