I just find it strange that we pay to park all over this area, but people get real crazy over the thought of you doing it.

All good points. Even Borgata charges for parking and it can be paid with comps. I expect MGM will institute something along the lines. Plus they may provide a shuttle to the nearest metro station?

Another question for Johnny - will vaping inside the poker room be banned? It's a nuisance and MDL doesn't allow it. If this was already answered, perhaps it can be put in the FAQ thread. Thanks!

I don't pay for parking where I live, where I work, or where I play poker. There are 3 rooms in the area that have free parking. Playing 10-hour sessions in order to earn enough comps to offset parking costs does not sound appealing to me.

I understand where it isn't appealing but using your house and place of employment are kinda weak arguments. If everyone surrounding the mgm charges but the mgm does not, everyone who was headed to the Ferris wheel will park there to save a few bucks thus making it harder for actual players to get a reasonable parking place.

I get that its annoying, but at the end of the day the quality of the games/floor/dealers will decide where I play, not 5$

I'll throw restaurants in the mix too.

I'll add this, I find it curious that people keep saying there are X amount of rooms "in the area". Sorry but I dont consider CT, ML/HB and MGMNH to be really in the same "area". All the Strip rooms in LV are in the same "area". If you dont like the games at Bellagio, you are a tram ride from Aria or a quick walk to Caesars.

But rooms that are an hour or more apart (counting traffic) I dont consider those to be in the same area. I started to think about if people are really going to spend more hours of your life and X gallons of gas to go to another room just because you dont want to pay $5 for parking? I guess if you live in between ML and MGMNH that is a tougher decision? I guess. Personally I'll wager the quality of the room will more than make up for it.

Many places in this area I have had to pay for parking for both work and where I live.

Have we reached the point of seeing pictures of the poker room yet?

don't you think Johnny would post them ASAP, likes hes said over and over...?

The poker room is not very pretty right now....

Was interesting to hear that MGMNH is cutting their initial estimate of 3600 slot machines by @ 10% due to "market factors" - specifically citing the increase in popularity of table games at other MD casinos. No indication that they were going to increase the number of table games as a result but definitely found it interesting.

Interesting to also see that they only keep 33% of the revenue from slots - but 80% from table games.

Lots more licensing fees for video slots vs blackjack, craps, and baccarat would be my guess.


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I don't know anything about that one way or the other, but I do know that Maryland taxes the ever-living **** out of slots.

isn't that standard for all md casinos? (shoe, md live,etc)

If their projected customer demographics are skewing younger, makes a lot of sense to have more tables (or at least the space to add more) instead of slots unless it's purely the delta between kept revenue as above

Ya I realize the shoe has issues, but I see alot of times where the whole pit on the bottom floor is closed up. Makes ya wonder if it's more of a tax issue than player demand

don't know about md live, but ive read mgm vegas will match caesars for new AND existing mlife card holders.

diamond = mlife gold.
7star = mlife platinum.

so im assuming mgm-nh will also give a tier match.

Yeah wondered about this, didn't know if I should try and match at Borgata/ Vegas from Diamond to Gold. Or if I could wait until MGM-NH opens to match.

Also looking at gambling revenues for MD, MDL poker revenue, as measured by revenue per table per day, has ground lower ~1450/1400/1300/1300 y/y from 2013 to YTD...also anecdotally prob more regs (I'll define it as ppl who play 3 or more times a week.) playing as evidenced by the noticeable drop in revenue during June (WSOP) that was only really noticeable this year (I assume, from more recs players no longer being a part of the player pool). What are ppl's guesses for MGM poker revenue? MDL does ~2.1mm per month and HSB ~775k a month. (Per table prob a better metric as MGM-NH tables are classified 😀 so 1300 for MDL and 1000 for HSB) I'll go with 1475 for MGM-NH 1100 for MDL and 950 for HSB (average over the first 6 months)

Equipment arriving and being installed... Looking like a poker room now.... Woohoo!!!!

Johnny - Will your room allow private games?

Mike at MD Live has allowed "private" games, and it basically means that the mediocre regs are able to shutout the highest skilled players from high stakes games by creating a "set list" of players for a game, pick a start time, and then email the set list to Mike. He will then protect this "private" game by posting the list prior to the start of the game so, effectively, the best regular pros are not able to play in it b/c they are not on Mike's set list.

I am hoping you will not allow these fake "private" games and just keep all games open to the public by first-come first-served waiting lists only. Thank you for considering this important issue.

Pictures or it didn't happen

Sounds like you might be confusing a wait list with a private game. What's your experience with attempting to get into a game and being denied at MDL?

I dont play the game you're talking about,. But do play the big limit games at live and have some experience with this stuff.

I think you might be mis-stating things here. Md live does not allow private games (if they did, the lhe lineup would look different than it does).

They /do/ for some big games that are organized by players and wouldn't go otherwise allow folks to call in a list ahead of time (which we never did for the lhe games). The list is always open and public.

Re: being locked out of game.

You might ask yourself why you're not on that initial list. Hint, it's very unlikely that it's because you're too good, and much more liekly that's its because you don't give any action/are otherwise bad for the game, and the action players don't wanna play with you.

When will the fish arrive?

I think you might be mis-understaning the issue. A player in a public poker room should not be required to receive an invitation to play in a game that he wants to play in. Those types of invitation games are to be held in private locations (and some games already are). But all poker games in a public casino need to be open to the public on a first-come first-served waiting list basis, regardless of whether or not the player "is wanted" in the game. If an invitation is a prerequisite, then the game is effectively private.

Meh, agree to disagree i guess.

IMO, the room mgmt is going to do what they think is best for their business and allowable under the gaming commission rules. I appreciate your perspective, but I think you're wrong in your belief that you (and everybody else) are entitled to be able to start a game. Seems almost astronomically unlikely that any room would allow an initial list to be posted ahead of time if it was a violation of the gaming regulations.

Edit to add:
I guess we disagree on what "private" means. If 9 names or whatever get posted as the first 9 on the list, and then anybody can get on the list afterwards, I don't see that as private, just as the room ensuring that a game they'd like to have gets spread. Sounds like you maybe see it differently?