I play at the isle every weekend. I would prefer to see rake takin from the pot than every 30 min.either way im down.2-5 is my game , i will play plo high low any stakes..5-10 as well..see ya at the tables..ship it this way son!

I would like to know why you would not spread a 1/3 game. I have played at The Beau and New Orleans harrahs, all have 1/2 and 2/5. Very difficult to get bigger games. In the last 2 yrs the Isle has had only 1 5/10. game.

Are you saying that if people want to play you will not spread. All these big games you like to spread might go once a week or once a month. There is not enough players to spread it on a regular basis, except for the omaha. 1/2 and 1/3 will keep your tables full.

He already went over why they are not hosting a 1/2 or 1/3 game. The room isn't big enough and the casino stands to make better profit by hosting 2/5 in the current room setup.

Whats the difference if you were to time rake anyways for the NL games? might as well spread 1/3 if you were to time rake the nl games.

Do you have $10 chips? (for 40/80 limit etc)

Since your lists will be so long will you do call ins?

The Isle use to spread a 5/10 plo now it is a 2/5. My big question is there is 2 poker rooms, The Isle and Caushatta why haven't they spread those games, simple no body shows up. Why not New Orleans Harrah's, have these games. IF there was a interest they would be spread else where. Biloxi spreads a 10/20 limit O/8 or better on the weekends and it is the same players.

No $10 chips as of now. If it turns out that we need them we will get them.

Not sure about call ins yet, it is on the list to discuss in our meeting tomorrow. I'll let you know.

Kim

just play at da isle bought n for three hundo 2 orbits in i pick up 66 on the bb. utg+1 raises 15 i call flop comes j62 two clubs i bet 20 into a 60 pot utg+1 says raise and bumps me a min pop to 40 i say raise back at him and make it 120 a three bet.. he goes all in turn comes j river q , j62jq he shows kk.. eazy game!
i would love to be a prop player for the room? at alli

where do you get off by charging $7 every 1/2hr ---that is $112 in a 8hr session,really?do u get a free room? to play at that rake u truly have to not care if you win or lose. just another greedy poker room wanting it all,fellow players give it a thought and keep money in the poker community.thx

7 dollars a half hour isnt that bad as long as the dealers are effecient...it just seems like a lot

i dont know what u are basing that on,but a player has to win 22.4 fully raked pots($5 in most casinos) in a 8hr session to equal $7 1/2hr time rake.So everyone that feels that they can win 23 or more fully raked pots(basically 3hr)in 8hrs go ahead and get on the list.My business will be elsewhere until the players are treated fairly.Everyone needs to voice their opinion before this room gets set in their ways,then it will be too late.

This is too bad. I was planning to check out this new room. However, $7 per 1/2 hr is a deal killer for me. I think Harrah's NO $6 per 1/2 hr is ridiculous.

Personally, I've always liked pot rake as opposed to time rake. But that's just me.

Your post started me thinking about where else a person could spend eight hours on entertainment for less than $112 with the opportunity to turn a profit.

Time rake vs pot rake has been an ongoing debate here at least since I have been a member and it boils down to as in most cases regarding poker, it depends.

In a NL game, if you are LAG and like to play a lot of hands then time rake is beneficial. If you are a nit waiting for premium hands or a short stacker, time rake will eat your lunch.

Time rake induces action in NL because it punishes tight play.

$2-5 NL should be a big enough game that the impact of the rake isn't nearly as significant as your edge or lack of, vs the other players.

Do we have a time on when the room will be open on Friday?

I prefer to play in a raked game also. Most people that I have played with prefer raked game to time charge also. Please consider this - and thanks for asking for feedback from you potential customers.

What time should we be getting there friday?

ya i see now..i play at the isle every weekend. im a nit so this time rake would kill the game i def prefer pot rake.
this is America Not Natzi Germany The Crowd Votes Pot Rake If not We Will Boycott your Casino and you will miss out on millions in the years to come.
Majority rules here if they decided and run with Nazi Germany then we will all go play at the isle which is only less than 2 miles apart..5-10 hasnt been played but once in 3 three years at the isle. games played frequently are 2-5 no limit and 2-5 pot limit plo.
dont miss out on alot of players ...be smart about how you do this because a first impression is one that last forever...good luck!

I don't think that some of you people understand this part of the comment. From what I'm reading everyone is boycotting the poker room before it opens because the rake is ridiculous, when, they are asking for our OPINIONS to improve it.

Personally, I don't like the time rake for the simple fact that it is automatic money coming out of my pocket regardless if I rake a pot or not. Also, the dealers can be total nits and it doesn't matter because the casino is getting their money. I prefer percentage rake for 2 reasons. The first being that the dealers have to know what they are doing in order to keep the game moving and to get as many hands as they can. More hands = more percentage. The second is if I don't play my 7,2os for a hour i'm not penalized $14 for it.

I did a rough number crunch on the outcome of both:

10 players * $14 an hour = $140 (duh....I know)

30 to 35 hands an hour = $150 to $175 an hour. This is assuming that the dealer is proficient, and all hands are max raked to $5. Personally I don't think that this would happen but it's worse case scenario.

Now, I know that the hour rake SEEMS better, but again, I think that with that scenario the casino can bring in Billy Bob BlackJack dealer and you're going to MAYBE get 20 hands an hour.

Gypsie

Sorry I haven't posted in a while, lot going on around here. Thanks to all those that have given their opinions, even the "passionate" ones. That's exactly what we want, your feedback. Like I stated earlier, we are open to change, specifically on the time vs. pot rake issue. We will be opening with all NL and PL games time rake, that is certain. But it will be possibly changing, so keep giving us your feedback.

And, please take into considerations these things that we will offer:

-Reduced rake - we will give reduced rake for shorthanded games and as a promotional type thing. For example, we've had quite a bit of interest in a regular mixed game or mid-limit Hold Em game. If we get it started and it is a regular game, Roger has said he will give a reduced rake for a few weeks to get it going. This is something some of our local competition doesn't do. As a matter of fact, one place I know that I won't mention actually increases the rake when time rake games get shorthanded.
-Amenities - we are going to have table-side food service and massage service. Again, unique to the local scene. $1/hour in comps and (coming about mid-August) a poker rate for the hotel.
-Different games - we will spread mixed games, draw games like Badugi or 2-7, regular mid-limit Hold Em...whatever our players want to play.
-Ambience - I will brag and say we have a very nice resort. A lot to offer in addition to poker (check out Party By The Pool/Liquid Society and our new full-service barber shop, 1740 Barbier). And the room is a very well-appointed, well-designed room. Only seven tables, but with the possibility of expansion in the near future. All tables have shuffle machines and we will use Bravo to track play.
-Communication - we will keep you informed on what we are doing. Like here on 2+2. Want to know that we're spreading 20/40 HORSE tomorrow? Subscribe to our Twitter (coming soon) and we'll keep you updated.

Room opens about 3pm Friday. We'll open a couple of hours earlier for a private game, and we'll start waiting lists around then. I would suggest getting there early afternoon. Opening weekend will likely be something to the effect of a PLO, four NLHE, and two LHE. Again, subject to change based on interest, but I imagine the lists for these games will be long.

For those wanting mixed games, minor glitch...for whatever reason, we forgot to add Stud/8 to the list of games to get approved by the state. So we will not have it for at least a couple of months. But we are able to spread several other mixed-game games.

Again, thanks for all the feedback. If I missed answering a question please let me know.

Kim

Can we get a 1/2 kill on the limit game? I heard it will be 6/12 limit.

Yes, we will do a 1/2 kill or a full kill. Just ask for it and we'll put it on the board. Or if we have an open game and the table agrees we can make it a kill game.

Kim

That is unfortunate. I was looking forward to playing in this room.

Coushatta will still get my business when i play in Louisiana until this changes

time rake in plo is fine; 2-5 no limit time rake sux..im sure this will be worked out as long as people start to complain they will fix it..green nugz im calln' u out meet me at da poker room in lake charles..this weekend' jackpot is 465,00 at the isle of capri'