It's always been a rule that players post the "make up kill" next available in every casino (outside of FL) I've played at since I started playing in casinos in 1987.

I agree and I'd even go as far as posting it at any future date if asked by the floor too. However, if the other "Player A" returns she should also post the makeup kill or forfeit the chance to play this game at the very least or play at the Isle at all the next time she comes in. Although, it was said they noted her name I doubt they got her name correctly. I've not ever seen this player before nor I doubt she even had a players card in the system to track here.

IMHO, that $6 was not ever her money and the Floor person should have quickly remedied the matter and retained the $6 BEFORE getting any further clarification from other floor personal (if he did not know the rules on "makeup posting"). This Floor person is very knowledgeable too and I doubt he needed a "clarification" as to the make up rule. What got me all riled up was the way the Floor person kept quiet about any "make up" for several minutes and did not retrieve $6 of the next available pots money and letting her leave w/o approaching her to explain her options. Silence on this Floor person's part was not golden IMHO.

I have always played that way too, they even pick up your chips if you refuse. Whey you sign up for the game you know it is a kill game.

Anyway Teddy, I am going tonight, maybe see you there, I will play the 10/20 game but if that isn't going the 4/8.
Have they gotten a interest for the 20/40 yet?

I now know who "Player A" is and she was playing in the same game today. Don't know if she was approached by the floor about it but I doubt it. Her husband (whom I've always respected but I did not know until today was Player A's husband) had some harsh words for me today. I bite my lip after giving back some the 1st few seconds.

It's hard to let go of what happened here but I'm done for now on this.

I'm done for the day, Gambit but hope to see you soon. BTW, 10/20 did not get off, only 4 players locked up a seat. They say tonight they will play 30/60.

Mike, what's the Isle's official policy on having a netbook or an ipad at the poker table???

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They (the Isles) changed the "post the kill rule". I was playing in the 4/8 Omaha 8 on Monday afternoon. We had a kill pot, but the winner forgot and did not post. After action (bets and calls), we asked if the last hand was a kill. Yes, said the dealer. Lets call the floor. [name removed] ruled that were was too much action on this hand, but she would check with [name removed] on the next hand. The answer was NO kill post on the next hand. It is now the players and the dealer responsibility to remind the player to post the kill. if he or she does not post, there is no post on the next hand.

That's a poor rule. But hey, I'm not surprised it was [name removed]. Is that the official rule, Mike?

I've noticed rules change day to day depending on who is on the floor. For example, there is a written rule (showed to me in writing), that says -

"At limit play lower than $30-$60 the minimum betting unit is a $1 chip."

So if your playing $25/$50 limit and you have $1 left on the turn you can bet it according to this rule. The rule in most places I've played at is, they need to have 1/2 the bet or more for it to be considered a bet in games $5/10 and above.

We had this come up 2x's in $8/16 Om8 1/2 kill games when the bet on the turn was $24 kill:

The 1st - Somebody went all for $3 against me on the turn & I asked to get a floor ruling. Floor person went to ask another floor person and said that it needs to be 1/2 or more so "no" player can not go all in for $3 on the turn.

2nd - I called and thought I was going all in with $24 in hand and placed $24 down "all in for this". I had $26 in front of me and other player(s) wanted me to put in the $2. Floor ruling came down and "$2 must go in". Even if I said "call", on the river I could put the $2 in or call the $2 on a $24 bet. Hours later the floor person showed me in writing this rule. IMHO, a dumb rule.

I did not mind what I thought was a dumb rule. What eeks me however is consistency.

Teddy

First: No one's name other than mine should be posted on here. I believe that's a 2 + 2 rule. Second, although he may be incorrect here, there isn't anyone I would rather have make a floor call than this supervisor.

The official rule will be that the kills will be made up on the next available hand.

The minimum betting unit for any game should be the smallest chip used in a blind.

in a $30-$60 game, only $5 chips should be allowed to play.

We have a lot of new games and unfortunately many of the players know more about the new games than the floor people. We will improve and become more consistent, because I agree that nothing is worse than inconsistency, but we are working at it.

Don't have a policy yet, but I may have one for you tomorrow. It's funny the policies we have to make now with the technology and so many new players. Used to be, we just made poker rules.

for real limit guys with your move up tables, kill posting, less than full bet chip carrying guys are a bunch of whiners

2/5 NL has been fine every time i've played this month, which hasnt been enough!

When I got there I put my name on the list and the game started right away at about 8pm so you just missed it, they also got the 30/60 mixed game going.

I took a beating and couldn't hit a draw to save my life, it was one of those nights, nut low with nut back up, nut flush draw and river counterfeits me so I get a 1/4 , over and over, full houses getting rivered by bigger boats on the river, the guys that shouldn't even be in the hand are killing me.
I think I may play NLH next time.

Have to say they were doing a much better job at the brush, someone must have light a fire under there asses.

Can anyone comment on whether this has been running consistently or if it was just an occasional thing with the right mix of people? Would be a lot more likely to take a vacation down to the Miami/Fort Lauderdale area if this game's running on a regular basis.

I may have to amend that statement. I'll discuss it with my shift managers and we may decide within one or two hands. There probably needs to be a statute of limitations on when we can force someone to make up the kill.
I'll let you know

VG, keep us informed.

You may want to additionally expand on what the rules are for:

1 - What happens if the kill player (intentionally or by accident) gets up on their kill (either leaving their chips or picking up their chips)? Can a dealer (if player leaves chips) or floor (if player picks up to leave the game) take the kill money?

2 - What is the "statute of limitations" if "next available hand" is also forgotten? Perhaps a "missed blind" button or a new "missed kill" button can be used as a reminder.

It may seem far fetched but it would not surprise me to see a player intentionally try to avoid posting a kill any way they can. IMHO, a better "statute of limitations" rule in the "Posting of Kill Rules" might read something like this:

'Floor decision to have a player post a missed kill on the next available hand shall be based upon the floor determining with 100% certainty that the kill was indeed missed. If the game has not drastically changed (i.e. its players) or an exorbitant amount of time has not passed since the missed kill; the next available hand the missed kill shall be posted. The floor shall reasonably determine what is a "drastic change to the game" or what an "exorbitant amount of time" shall be.'

Thanks again Mike,
Teddy

Good to hear that. That makes more sense than the written rule I was shown.

What about a non blind limit game like stud? In stud, should the minimum betting unit be the bring in? How about other non blind games?

TIA,
Teddy

What games arengoin on tonight?

The isle is way better than coconut creek right for 5/10 NL+

Does any 10/20 - 30/60 lhe run on a regular basis or is the limit action at these stakes just lo8 and mixed games?

It's all O/8 and mixed games. I have not seen a LHE game higher than 4/8, and that only occasionally. No stud of any kind except in a mixed game.

That's what I figured. Sounds a lot like how the Tampa limit scene is developing. I didn't realize how popular the o8 games would be.

Any chance that they can get together a 1/2 or 2/5 PLO8 game?

There will be once I am back in S.FL!

Can't say for sure if it's running consistenly, but I was there Monday night and there was a 100 -200 mixed game going. Lord Strife may know, and I'll ask the dealers when I'm there next time...

Planning on an extended weekend trip to the Isle. Advice on nearby hotels?