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07-26-2010 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by fordjustin
I played yesterday for 6 hrs about 40 hands per hour. Very cold in the poker room got there at 945 left at 4. Very action filled play. Dealers very fast only 1 switch of cards. I had a good time and had water and coffee comps. I had a great time got unlucky but had a good time.
40 hands/hr is awesome ... especially for a new room. I think I'm going to stop in this weekend when I'm up in PA and check it out!
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07-26-2010 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Vandergata
$6 rake
no free alcohol
no comps of any kind
slow dealers
inconsistent rules
poor waiting list system...
Yes, all these are frustrating. I was there Saturday for the 3rd time. They have started announcing the names on the waiting list. This is especially good if you are playing in one game while waiting for another, as there is no board you can see while seated at almost any table.

I really don't like the same dealer staying at the same table for hours (with a few subs for breaks). This increases the possibility of cheating.

There was an interesting dispute at the table next to mine Saturday afternoon. All details about the hand are as best I remember or could tell. Pre-flop two guys got all in, pre-flop I believe. Maybe it was post-flop. Not sure exactly how the betting went but one guy (7 seat) had $90 in chips bet across the line but not pulled into the pot yet. The other guy (5 seat) had nothing I think.

The flop is dealt, maybe J62 or something. The 7 seat has AA turned face up. The 5 seat guy got up, took one or two steps away from the table, turned around, and made some comment about his luck or something. This may have been happening just before or while the flop was being dealt. Before the turn, it is noticed that seat 5 has no cards. Dealer somehow swept them in at some point.

First floorman is no help, but the Italian/New Yorker guy who may have been the shift manager comes over to rule. He first says that if you walk away from the table it is a mucked hand. Then he says that the seat 5 guy is to be given his all-in call back. Seat 7 kid says "you can't do that" and shift manager says "you aren't going to tell me what I can do in my poker room!" then says tells the dealer to freeze everything and he is going to check the tapes.

He gets back about 10 minutes later and says that the shift manager, casino manager, and gaming commission all agree that it is a dead hand and seat 5 is to pay off. He walks away and leaves the dealer to handle it. Seat 5 unhappily pays off the $90. Seat 7 then counts down his $120 or so behind but Seat 5 doesn't want to pay that. Not sure what conversation took place, but he paid that as well. Seat 7 wisely racked up and left as Seat 5 guy had about 200 pounds on him!
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07-26-2010 , 02:59 PM
Dude, do you realize your story makes no sense whatsoever?
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07-26-2010 , 03:02 PM
Goldtoes, just to give you another opinion re hands per hour, i have played there 6 days so far, and there is absolutely no way the dealers are averaging 40 hands per hour. Not even close. It is painfully slow - i haven't tracked the rate, but i'm thinking about half that - seriously.
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07-26-2010 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Ganaram
Goldtoes, just to give you another opinion re hands per hour, i have played there 6 days so far, and there is absolutely no way the dealers are averaging 40 hands per hour. Not even close. It is painfully slow - i haven't tracked the rate, but i'm thinking about half that - seriously.
I agree that 40/hr is not happening and should not be expected. In fact, between the floor only bring $100 in whites when dealer requests a fill, setup changes taking 20 min and rebuys sometimes being allowed at table and sometimes not....there is no way anyone is avg 40/hr. There MAY be an hour time span where you get 40 hands in, but that's it.

I'm now convinced that the only thing that will perpetually suck about this room is that the rake is $6 (even at 1/2). Everything else can easily be fixed. I don't quite understand why they have yet to fix it, but eventually I'm sure they will catch on.
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07-26-2010 , 03:24 PM
Speaking of the rake - it's crucial that everyone is vocal about their displeasure with the $6 rake - i think there is a chance they will reduce it or, maybe generate a BBJ with some of the money.

Anyway, the more people who complain, the better. I make it a point to tell the floor everyday i play that i am not tipping due to the $6 rake, and i am splitting my time at MS in wilkes-barre.

A $6 rake with what appears to be predominately small buy-in, conservative players is a very difficult game to beat for regular small limit grinders.
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07-26-2010 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by LtownRiver
I agree that 40/hr is not happening and should not be expected. In fact, between the floor only bring $100 in whites when dealer requests a fill, setup changes taking 20 min and rebuys sometimes being allowed at table and sometimes not....there is no way anyone is avg 40/hr. There MAY be an hour time span where you get 40 hands in, but that's it.

I'm now convinced that the only thing that will perpetually suck about this room is that the rake is $6 (even at 1/2). Everything else can easily be fixed. I don't quite understand why they have yet to fix it, but eventually I'm sure they will catch on.
ok thanks for the info ... I'll probably still stop in and check out the games. I thought it might be hard to get 40 hands/hr. My only thought is if there's one good dealer and you end up getting him at your table for most of the day.
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07-26-2010 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Ganaram
Speaking of the rake - it's crucial that everyone is vocal about their displeasure with the $6 rake - i think there is a chance they will reduce it or, maybe generate a BBJ with some of the money.

Anyway, the more people who complain, the better. I make it a point to tell the floor everyday i play that i am not tipping due to the $6 rake, and i am splitting my time at MS in wilkes-barre.

A $6 rake with what appears to be predominately small buy-in, conservative players is a very difficult game to beat for regular small limit grinders.

Umm, as long as you keep showing up at all and filling up their card room, they aren't going to reduce their rake.

You think they give a piss about their dealers? They are already pooling the tips which is the biggest slap in the face to players and dealers you can do. I don't tip where tips are pooled. PERIOD. Then again, I avoid these places altogether. But I'll occaisionally drift into one.
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07-26-2010 , 09:36 PM
So I haven't been there since the test day but I noticed, and judging by the comments I've seen here it is still true, a dealer could be on one particular table for almost their whole shift (except for breaks.)

Anyone have a theory why they don't do 'normal' 30 minute downs and have the dealers rotate through the tables like every other card room I've ever seen?
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07-26-2010 , 11:59 PM
Hey Brandon,

You mentioned 5/10. A floor person once told me they might run a 5/10 limit table on the weekends. Has that panned out yet?

If so, what is the best day/time to head over?
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07-27-2010 , 12:52 AM
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07-27-2010 , 10:03 AM
Guys just PM me if you need to know anything... this is turning into a joke with all these mods deleting posts for general information that we are giving.
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07-27-2010 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TableRunnersENT
Guys just PM me if you need to know anything... this is turning into a joke with all these mods deleting posts for general information that we are giving.
Rules and moderators are usually put in place for a reason. I'm sure that all of us appreciate you trying to provide information. However, what needs to be done is there should be a representative of Hollywood (whoever runs the room) monitoring and updating this thread. It would definitely help out Hollywood as much as us.

If I need to send someone there and email or suggest this each time I am there, please let me know.
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07-27-2010 , 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by peter17319
Hey Brandon,

You mentioned 5/10. A floor person once told me they might run a 5/10 limit table on the weekends. Has that panned out yet?

If so, what is the best day/time to head over?
I've been there both Saturdays they been open - the first Saturday the had 1 3/6 limit game, 9 1/2 NL, 1 2/5NL , 1 5/10 NL. The second Saturday the had the same games but 2 2/5 NL and no 5/10 NL games.
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07-27-2010 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TableRunnersENT
Guys just PM me if you need to know anything... this is turning into a joke with all these mods deleting posts for general information that we are giving.
FWIW, I know this is the policy in all specific poker room threads on 2p2.
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07-28-2010 , 12:08 AM
when is a good time to show up on weekdays (just before the list gets out of control)?

same question for weekends...
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07-28-2010 , 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by mrducks
when is a good time to show up on weekdays (just before the list gets out of control)?

same question for weekends...
Last week on weekdays the room wasfull around 1-2pm. This week seems to be slower, about 3-4pm is when its full. The list really starts going heavy after 5pm when everyone comes from work.

This past weekend, earlier - around 10-11am. List goes crazy in early to mid-afternoon.
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07-28-2010 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by NoGoodToday
Last week on weekdays the room wasfull around 1-2pm. This week seems to be slower, about 3-4pm is when its full. The list really starts going heavy after 5pm when everyone comes from work.

This past weekend, earlier - around 10-11am. List goes crazy in early to mid-afternoon.
Sounds good. I'll aim to get free at 3:45/4pm to get there before 4:30pm during the weekend. On the weekend, I guess I'll try to come right around lunch.

Can you also let me know how long I can hold a seat with chips there if I choose to leave for lunch/dinner or if they have a dinner list (I leave and then move to top of list when I return in an hour)?

Also, is this one of those places where I can take my whole chip stack if I switch tables if I switch to a new table with the same game? Some places have told me that I can only bring over the buy-in max with me if I change tables and have more than that amount in my stack, even it is a new game.
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07-28-2010 , 02:55 PM
Only $200 max buy-in here for $1/2nl right?

What are max and min for $2/5nl? Does it get spread on weeknights?
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07-28-2010 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mrducks

Can you also let me know how long I can hold a seat with chips there if I choose to leave for lunch/dinner or if they have a dinner list (I leave and then move to top of list when I return in an hour)?

Also, is this one of those places where I can take my whole chip stack if I switch tables if I switch to a new table with the same game? Some places have told me that I can only bring over the buy-in max with me if I change tables and have more than that amount in my stack, even it is a new game.
The rule I've seen/heard from the dealers is 30 mins (assuming you don't do it more then once in a while). I saw them remove two women one day because they did it over and over, and all the players were complaining. They do not have a dinner list, but its a smaller casino so its not hard to get a meal in a half hour. A down side is they don't allow food in the room. Some A-hole dropped a hot dog on a table within the first two days.

If you switch to the same game and stakes you are able (I am 99% certain) to take your whole stack. I'd have floor "help" move you so that the new dealer gets an immediate go ahead, rather then calling them for an explanation (some dealers aren't as knowledgeable as is to be expected).
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07-28-2010 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mrducks
Only $200 max buy-in here for $1/2nl right?

What are max and min for $2/5nl? Does it get spread on weeknights?
Yeah only 200 max for 1/2. Minimum is only 40 on 1/2 also, kinda ****ty.

2/5 min = 100, max = 500. Generally, no idiots buy in for less then 200 at 2/5. This past weekend I saw a steady 2 tables of 2/5 going all day and night before I left. Weeknights, a lot of times they start a table of 2/5 in afternoon to early evening. Sometimes theres a 2nd one, sometimes not. Demand fluctuates for 2/5 here.
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07-29-2010 , 12:05 PM
I was told by the floor if u ask for a table change at 1/ 2 and have more than 200 u CAN NOT take the excess with you to the new table. Seems like an easy way to rathole/go south Idk maybe my thinking is off....
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07-29-2010 , 12:21 PM
I was told the same thing recently at Harrah's AC and was surprised. It seems like an obvious way to go south. I hate poker rooms that allow this and have this stupid rule. If you want to take chips off the table so bad, then you need to wait the required 1hr or 2 hr depending on the poker room.

I think the required wait time discourages enough people not to pull that crap.
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07-29-2010 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonnyu
I was told by the floor if u ask for a table change at 1/ 2 and have more than 200 u CAN NOT take the excess with you to the new table. Seems like an easy way to rathole/go south Idk maybe my thinking is off....
You have to think of it from the other perspective too. Your coming into a new table/game. How is it fair to everyone at the table that you're allowed to bring 1k to the table when they can only buy-in for 500?

This obv changes if you are coming from a broken game vs voluntarily asking for a table change.
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07-29-2010 , 02:19 PM
I don't understand why a casino let's people buy in for over max if floating between tables.
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