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11-21-2010 , 09:47 AM
I have been finding that the 2/5 games have been tailing off a bit recently. A few months ago, you could find a 2/5 game going on a Saturday by 10am at the latest. Now, a game doesn't usually get going until 1-2pm. Also, the frequency of a second 2/5 game is much less now than a few months ago.

There are plenty of complainers in this thread. I'm not usually the type to bitch and moan. With that said, it does appear that Hollywood's attitude in terms of its poker players (no comps etc) is starting to cost them. Yesterday, we started the 2/5 game 4 handed and they would not give us half rake. Ridic.

I'm not sure if the management understands that there are plenty of degens who come to play poker who end up spending their dinner break or wasting time during a set up by playing hi limit slots or table games. They should at least give us comps for our time at the table. Otherwise, some of these degens are going to start going elsewhere, especially if Gettysburg gets the final license.
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11-21-2010 , 12:20 PM
fwiw, I don't think accurately reporting the seemingly endless string of ******ed decisions management has made constitutes complaining.
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11-21-2010 , 07:43 PM
Interesting ruling by the floor and the shift supervisor on Friday night...

2 players left after the turn. Hands/stacks are irrellevant and frankly I really wasn't paying attention to the particular hand until everything went down. 10 seat is debating what to do, 1 seat says 'if you bet, I'm going all in (1 seat had 10 seat covered).' 10 seat asks the dealer if that was binding and the dealer calls the floor. The floor, without any hesitation says it's binding and the 1 seat has to go all in if the 10 seat bets. 10 seat makes a decent sized bet, the 1 seat begrudgingly goes all in and the 10 seat flips over a flopped full house and it holds up.
The 1 seat requests to speak to the shift supervisor and after ~30 minutes he finally shows up. They speak away from the table for about 5 minutes and finally the 1 seat returns and says the ruling was upheld.
Not a single person at the table agreed with it, including the dealer. How can verbal be binding out of turn, especially when it requires action?
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11-21-2010 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SVTHORD
Interesting ruling by the floor and the shift supervisor on Friday night...

2 players left after the turn. Hands/stacks are irrellevant and frankly I really wasn't paying attention to the particular hand until everything went down. 10 seat is debating what to do, 1 seat says 'if you bet, I'm going all in (1 seat had 10 seat covered).' 10 seat asks the dealer if that was binding and the dealer calls the floor. The floor, without any hesitation says it's binding and the 1 seat has to go all in if the 10 seat bets. 10 seat makes a decent sized bet, the 1 seat begrudgingly goes all in and the 10 seat flips over a flopped full house and it holds up.
The 1 seat requests to speak to the shift supervisor and after ~30 minutes he finally shows up. They speak away from the table for about 5 minutes and finally the 1 seat returns and says the ruling was upheld.
Not a single person at the table agreed with it, including the dealer. How can verbal be binding out of turn, especially when it requires action?
Moral of the story: Quit trying to be an angle shooting blowhard and keep your trap shut until it is your turn to act.
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11-21-2010 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bdidd
I have been finding that the 2/5 games have been tailing off a bit recently. A few months ago, you could find a 2/5 game going on a Saturday by 10am at the latest. Now, a game doesn't usually get going until 1-2pm. Also, the frequency of a second 2/5 game is much less now than a few months ago.
Haven't been in for a few days, has it really slowed that much recently? Regs just not coming in as early?

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Yesterday, we started the 2/5 game 4 handed and they would not give us half rake. Ridic.
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Why would you even agree to play at that point? Thats completely absurd.

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Originally Posted by Bdidd
They should at least give us comps for our time at the table. Otherwise, some of these degens are going to start going elsewhere, especially if Gettysburg gets the final license.
No doubt they should give some sort of comp. This place is ignorant if they think people will not delve elsewhere when they have a $6 rake with no type of return in promotions or comp dollars. There is a reason its gotten slower at Hollywood but not the other poker rooms within a 2 hour radius.

Also, G-burg announced that it would be Hollywood managed (just not owned). Granted each property has different managers who make day to day decisions, but still...
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11-22-2010 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bdidd
Moral of the story: Quit trying to be an angle shooting blowhard and keep your trap shut until it is your turn to act.
I have no problem with people talking when it's heads up...part of the game. The fact that the floor and shift supervisor said that was binding is laughable.

The one floorman yesterday was called over when a player bet out of turn. Thankfully the players agreed to resolve it on their own. The floor had no idea about what happens when ppl bet out of turn regarding to whether the action changes or not before them. All he offered was that you shouldn't bet out of turn.

Bdidd did you play in the 2/5 game for a while yest? I was there. Agree no half rake is ridic.

Lastly, does anyone have an email address for Hollywood that they've actually received a response from. I've sent an email 4 times now inquiring about poker. I received an initial vague response, but I've not got anything back since following up 3 times. I think the email I have is just to the rewards club.
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11-22-2010 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by LtownRiver
I have no problem with people talking when it's heads up...part of the game. The fact that the floor and shift supervisor said that was binding is laughable.

The one floorman yesterday was called over when a player bet out of turn. Thankfully the players agreed to resolve it on their own. The floor had no idea about what happens when ppl bet out of turn regarding to whether the action changes or not before them. All he offered was that you shouldn't bet out of turn.

Bdidd did you play in the 2/5 game for a while yest? I was there. Agree no half rake is ridic.

Lastly, does anyone have an email address for Hollywood that they've actually received a response from. I've sent an email 4 times now inquiring about poker. I received an initial vague response, but I've not got anything back since following up 3 times. I think the email I have is just to the rewards club.
Indeed I did. I played Saturday and Sunday from around Noon until 6pmish. Had a great, profitable session on Saturday and donked most of it off yesterday including a couple of ridiculous coolers. For example, flopped a wheel and ended up losing to a rivered straight flush.

Did you play both days?
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11-23-2010 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LtownRiver
Lastly, does anyone have an email address for Hollywood that they've actually received a response from. I've sent an email 4 times now inquiring about poker. I received an initial vague response, but I've not got anything back since following up 3 times. I think the email I have is just to the rewards club.
My recommendation is always to just call. It's too easy to be ignored when you write emails. Not to mention it's hard to find the right address to send to.

If you get someone on the phone you can request to talk to certain people - that usually works better for me. Just have your thoughts planned out ahead of time if you're complaining or something like that.
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11-23-2010 , 03:52 PM
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Indeed I did. I played Saturday and Sunday from around Noon until 6pmish. Had a great, profitable session on Saturday and donked most of it off yesterday including a couple of ridiculous coolers. For example, flopped a wheel and ended up losing to a rivered straight flush.

Did you play both days?
I was there on Sunday. Yea that hand was quite sick. I had the 6's in the other cooler.

Gold, thx for the advice!
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11-23-2010 , 06:08 PM
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I was there on Sunday. Yea that hand was quite sick. I had the 6's in the other cooler.

Gold, thx for the advice!
LOL, cool. If I remember correctly you looked to be having a pretty good session.

I don't usually play top two (in the hand against your sixes) like its the stone cold nuts but i was fairly tilted at that point.

I also laid down the nut flush on the river versus Kings full and ran a full house into quad fives.

Overall, I was quite tilted by the end of the session.

Going to AC Friday into Saturday to play at the Borg and a donkament at Showboat so you won't have me around to beat up this weekend.

Last edited by Bdidd; 11-23-2010 at 06:14 PM.
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11-25-2010 , 04:23 AM
Well they had a 4/8 limit omaha H/L going today. It started about 1:30 pm and went till 1:30 am. The table averaged 7 players. The dealers they had did a good job keeping the game moving with only minor mistakes that were easy to fix. I hope this goes more often.
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11-25-2010 , 10:21 AM
Was there yesterday to play limit HE, and they had one table that stayed open less than an hour (the omaha game killed it.)

Pretty depressing- I love limit, and the games (when they run) are the softest evar. Never been to a casino that doesn't have enough interest to run a low limit game.

There's some bitter irony in waiting for a casino to open, then find out the game you want to play isn't there.
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11-25-2010 , 10:25 AM
on a lighter note- i was sitting at a 1/2 NL table, and it was discovered that the dealer didn't know what a gutshot straight draw was. He said the casino (or wherever he was trained) stayed away from teaching poker slang.

He said he figured out what big slick was once he started dealing.
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11-25-2010 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by don mcg
Well they had a 4/8 limit omaha H/L going today. It started about 1:30 pm and went till 1:30 am. The table averaged 7 players. The dealers they had did a good job keeping the game moving with only minor mistakes that were easy to fix. I hope this goes more often.
What day was this? I was there Wednesday evening at 5:30. How did they have it listed on the board?
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11-26-2010 , 08:00 PM
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What day was this? I was there Wednesday evening at 5:30. How did they have it listed on the board?
They had it listed as 4/8 omaha.
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11-27-2010 , 10:54 AM
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They had it listed as 4/8 omaha.
I need new contacts then. I did see they had a 4/8 game listed but I could have swore it had n/l by it. I have to admit it didn't make sense since I never saw a 4/8 NL. Plus, when I went to add my name for 3/6 limit the floor manager or whoever takes names told me those names on the 3/6 had been there for hours and that they probably wouldn't ever start the table up. He suggested I play 1/2 NL. I replied I rather play limit and he never mentioned an Omaha table I said I'd think about playing NL and walked away. Then my wife calls and starts giving me crap about wanting to play poker on Thanksgiving eve and.....
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11-27-2010 , 06:58 PM
I saw a TV ad for Hollywood which said they had 'more table's' and were offering omaha and 7-stud. I didn't notice any more tables when I was there on Wed., it couldn't have been many.
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11-27-2010 , 09:45 PM
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I saw a TV ad for Hollywood which said they had 'more table's' and were offering omaha and 7-stud. I didn't notice any more tables when I was there on Wed., it couldn't have been many.
They originally openned with 12. Got another 2 for 14 total a few months ago. Then again about 2-3 weeks ago they added another 2 for a now 16 total. Saw all 16 going Friday night. Play was very loose, good holiday.

I keep seeing lists for 7 stud and omaha, but haven't seen them spread.
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11-28-2010 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Bdidd
Moral of the story: Quit trying to be an angle shooting blowhard and keep your trap shut until it is your turn to act.
While I kind of like the penalty in principle, this was a dumb ruling.
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11-28-2010 , 10:21 PM
There was good action in the 2/5 games this weekend.

Even had three tables going Friday afternoon/early evening.

I left Saturday around 6pm but was told that the best action was Saturday evening.
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12-01-2010 , 12:14 PM
this weekend was pretty busy, was a lot of fun.

THEY FINALLY ESTABLISHED A HALF-RAKE POLICY FOR TABLES WITH 6 OR LESS PLAYERS! All you have to do is ask the dealer for it, they don't even need floor approval. It becomes 10% with $3 max.
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12-01-2010 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by goldtoes
this weekend was pretty busy, was a lot of fun.

THEY FINALLY ESTABLISHED A HALF-RAKE POLICY FOR TABLES WITH 6 OR LESS PLAYERS! All you have to do is ask the dealer for it, they don't even need floor approval. It becomes 10% with $3 max.
And my pet unicorn will be shipped in time for Christmas.

In all seriousness, is this true?
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12-01-2010 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by goldtoes
this weekend was pretty busy, was a lot of fun.

THEY FINALLY ESTABLISHED A HALF-RAKE POLICY FOR TABLES WITH 6 OR LESS PLAYERS! All you have to do is ask the dealer for it, they don't even need floor approval. It becomes 10% with $3 max.
1. I was made aware of this on Sunday when a dealer (w/o players asking) announced it to the table. Gotta love the good ones.

2. Later that night we had a dealer who was not aware of the policy though, but happily called floor and got approval. So do cover yourselves as word of the poliy spreads, some still don't know.

3. FINALLY!
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12-01-2010 , 02:35 PM
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And my pet unicorn will be shipped in time for Christmas.

In all seriousness, is this true?
Yes. The charges on unicorn s/h has got to be pretty pricey.
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12-01-2010 , 05:13 PM
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And my pet unicorn will be shipped in time for Christmas.

In all seriousness, is this true?
Yep, I believe it started on like Wednesday. Like NoGoodToday said, some dealers aren't even aware of it or are confused at what half-rake means.

One older dealer thought it meant half the rate, so he was calculating the rake based on 5% but still with the max of $6. So if a pot was $58, he wasn't even raking $3! The floor caught on quickly and yelled at him - which kinda pissed me off because it was very obvious that it was their lack of communication that was the problem.
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