They told me $40 of the $350 is rake for that tournament so I'm assuming a similar % is taken for all events.

Bummed I cannot play this week due to some family things. Hoping to play the main on Friday! GL friends!

Anyone playing in the hpo today?

I've played a hell of a lot more than 84 hours and never hit any drawings or high hands, you're way over estimating the probability on those things. Fish like myself gamble when they have freetime because we have jobs and family obligations. Promos attract a crowd that doesn't really improve games. A lot of nits, out of town grinders and down and out people come in for the promos, I'd rather they not be at my game. To be honest I'd rather they did away with them and left the $2 in the pot. Obv they wont do that due to traffic and rake increase so my off peak play subsidizes the promo fund and the room. It's not the lowest rake in Ohio from where I'm sitting.

Any idea where to find the results and payouts of the different tournaments? I can find a posting of the final table for different events, but wondered if someplace showed the results beyond the final table as well as payouts.

I second Headhunters question. In the absence of an answer to his question, anyone know how many runners for the main today?

results have been posted on the Twitter account for the Columbus poker room.

Only the final table results. Was hoping to see all results for the different tournaments, but I guess it's not published anywhere?

I can't believe they are giving away $300,000 in promo money this month! Are they paying out what they are taking out or does this exceed the promo money taken out in a normal month? If that's a normal month, it's insane to me that so much gets taken out of pots every month. Based on a back of the napkin calculation, that would mean they are raking in $1,050,000 per month just off the poker room and keeping $750,000 of it. You cannot tell me that this is an unprofitable endeavor for the casino given most of the room's employees are paid minimum wage plus tips. Time to stop treating poker people like lesser citizens within the casino - not just a Hollywood Columbus problem obviously, but this should be instructive for players as consumers.

This is not a normal month. They used to have a Bad Beat Jackpot that they shared with..Toledo I think (can't remember if it was all 4 at one point and then just Toledo, or what happened). It had no upper limit and was Quad 8s beaten. They took those funds (divided with Toledo) and capped the Bad Beat at $20K - AAAKK beaten. They're trying to get the promo fund down to a manageable level. But....while they're whittling it down, they're enticing more folks to play with more promos (30 min high hands, Tourney now has promos, etc.). Might take them a while to get the fund down.

The state of Ohio has a rule that says the promotional fund balance be somewhere on a daily basis for the players to see. Here in Cincinnati it is rolling on the bottom of the Bravo screen. Does Columbus Hollywood have it somewhere for players to see??

Same as Cincy

I wonder if management ever considered just not taking money for promo fund? That would whittle down the fund pretty quickly it seems to me.

It seems like significant changes to the promo fund have to go through the gaming commission. That's why the old Bad Beat ended in April and the replacement wasn't available until June. The promo fund probably hasn't reached a critical mass yet. Perhaps if it gets over 500K, but they've probably slowed it considerably.

There's no way the OCCC forces poker rooms to have promo funds. If it is such a hassle on their end and players are split about whether they like or hate them, why not just do away with them?

It seems undeniable in my opinion that the room is busier when good promos are running, so they'd be really dumb to get rid of them entirely and therefore lower their take (house drop). There's so many promo chasers at low limit and 1/2 NL here and elsewhere in the country that'll rarely set foot in a poker room unless they have a shot to get lucky and hit a (relatively) big additional score. This is very good for winning regs to get these players in the room for obvious reasons, so the neutral EV JP drop is usually worth it for all players up to a certain extent (which this room is pushing).

While still much better than the older 6+1 format, when this place takes a second JP dollar after only $20 in the pot, I think as players you almost have to play during the good promo time frames only or it's a complete ripoff and tough to beat the rake at all, unless you're playing 2/5. If there's no promo (or just a meager $200 HH) and you're playing 1/2 NL, it's essentially a 7+0 rake with $4 taken out of the pot after only $20! Good luck with that when at least half the pots are less than $30 total from what I tend to witness while waiting for PLO. I feel like this structure makes players go broke more quickly, especially when they're running cold on promo hits. The 2nd JP dollar should be taken at $30 or even $40 like other places I've played at, otherwise these low limit games are just too tough to beat for too many people and I think it hurts room traffic over time. I think it can also hurt the dealers' bottom line because some players may be less inclined to tip on small pots when so much is already being taken out, but I digress.

Going back to your original point Carl about them giving away $300k this month, I think part of that may be that they ran a promo recently where players earned hours to qualify to draw 5 cards and made money based on the hand ranking drawn. They offered a huge payout if you made a full house, quads, straight flush, etc., but only $25 or $50 on the bottom if you made no pair or one pair. Basically almost nobody was able to draw anything huge all month, so their total payout had to have been much lower than anticipated. They had to make sure they had the funds to cover a miracle hit which ultimately never came (from what I've heard), thus the bloated fund now. I applaud the creativity, but I thought that promo was complete garbage because it's like a lotto ticket and was too hard to make anything meaningful back. If management reads this, giving players a flat return like the pay to play is infinitely better imo. I have no interest in grinding 6+ hours to make $25 a day, but pay me $500 a week like the top end of pay to play, and you've got me 40 hours for sure paying you rake.

For clarification, I didn't say the OCCC forces them to HAVE a promo, just that they control CHANGES to a promo. Surely they could do away with the promos, but like Spartan says, I think it's good for business.

Played 2/2 PLO here last Thursday night and had an absolute blast. What a great game. Not too many tables going on a Thursday night, but seemed busy enough. I had planned to play 2/5, but once I sat at the 2/2 PLO, I was hooked.

Only in for one night, so didn't pay attention to promos, etc., nor how many runners the 7:15 tourney got, but they seemed to have quite a few. Enjoyed the room, although it was on the cold side -- even for a casino.

I will take this a step further. The gaming commissions 'approve' of any promotional items within the room based on how the casino presents them.

Casinos can get trapped by their own 'good will' on occasion. There was a casino in Michigan that was 'trapped' by their own BBJ promo. No one won it for almost 7 years! They set it up with the MGCB to 'change' once they realized their folly, but once the promo started they had to wait until it hit to enact the changes. GL

Why does this room typically only have one cashier working the cage at peak hours. Right now I am observing a line of 12 people and one cage worker at 10 PM on a Friday. As I understand it, a player's first buy-in must come from the cage. This has short handed tables waiting longer than necessary for new players to be seated.

I have witnessed Cleveland & Cincinnati both having 4 cage workers at peak times.

The cage has always been one of the worst aspects of the place. It's not as bad as it used to be, but some of the cashiers are mind-boggingly incompetent to the point where you'd have to think there is almost zero screening as to seeing whether people can actually count and/or act efficiently.

Also, amen to the post above saying the room is too cold. Always has been for me but I've been hearing more and more complaints about it.

I complained about this about a year ago and got flamed on here. Glad someone else finally agrees.

I've been coming over on the weekend every few months to play 4/8. There were always 2-3 tables running by 11am Saturday morning but I see there's none today. Did that stop?


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They are having a tournament series from 8/10-20.

Link here.

Would you anticipate there being any 4/8 games tomorrow or Saturday? I was planning to come before I knew about the tournament.