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Old 01-30-2011, 11:20 AM   #2611
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Also, what's the point of listing these complaints when CT has no representation on 2+2, its management has shown that it's not interested in improving, and there's no need for management to make improvements because the room operates @ capacity at peak times and does well during non-peak times as well?
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Removing my dealers cap & reading this simply from a 2+2/customer's perspective, it seems irresponsible for a moderator to make such a one-sided statement...I'm just saying...
Uh, no. I'm a poster just like the other members of this forum. Just because I volunteer some of my time to try to make this forum more useful for the community doesn't mean that I'm not as entitled to my opinions as everyone else.

It's a shame that you're an employee of this room; otherwise I'd ask you to tell me the ways in which management has shown that it wants to improve. I haven't seen it. Feel free to PM me if you want.

And don't get me wrong, I don't think they need to improve: as I said before, they have a captive audience, so the complaints people are lodging here don't really matter. And I personally will continue to play there in spite of the poor room management because the action is so good.

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Old 01-30-2011, 11:59 AM   #2612
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Location, location, location...Is why this poker room is as busy as it is. I agree with most complaints that the overall quality of the room is sub par at best. Whether that is because of the management or WV Lottery is irrelevant. You have to judge the product on its merits & it is not even close to being a high quality room. If it wasn't for the location, I would be at Delaware Park every week since it is the 2nd closest room.

Honestly, if DP, Borgata, Bellagio, Venetian, Commerce, Hustler & CT (all poker rooms I have frequented) were all located on the same block, how would you rank the rooms? Granted all of these rooms have their pluses & minuses but IN MY OPINION, CT would be dead last.

Again, these are my thoughts on the matter & I'm sure there are many who are more than satisfied with conditions at CT but until they improve in areas which have been mentioned previously, I have to say that it is not a quality poker room. Visit the other rooms I've mentioned & you will find out why I think this.
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Old 01-30-2011, 03:12 PM   #2613
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Re: Hollywood Casino @ Charles Town, WV Poker Thread

dkong I think you are absolutely correct about making comparisions. It is true if you compared this room to decent rooms in Vegas, or A.C. or anywhere else, youd figure out in a hurry how mickey mouse it really is. The things I saw were amazing. That's a bad thing.


I am thinking that someone that thinks we are levying personal attacks smacks of someone that works there, although it is ironic that management doesn't formally represent itself. I actually feel sorry for the dealers, because they are all very nice and competent as far as I can tell but they work in a sad hole where management can't even make the rotations correctly without paperwork glitches and confusion.

The argument about other states being run by the same company are moot.
Every state has its own laws and regulations in regards to smoking, in regards to taxes etc. These poor issues will not last. Since we already know that DE is kicking everyone's arses on a number of fronts; rake, smoking, tournaments, location.


Once the luster wears off, you'll be left with the poor saps that have no choice. Those are the people that will continue to spout about how great it is. Fine, if that's what makes you happy, more power to you.

I'm not 'hating' (which is a personal attack itself). I have no dog in the fight. I am simply saying until things get to be more standard, I'll go elsewhere where they already are standard, or better. I'm providing my own viewpoint. You don't have to like it, and I don't care. I have choices; if you don't, sorry for your bad luck.

Come on, how could the management say they care, or how can you speak for them and say they care, when they can't even manage another warm body or two to run the cage during peak times? I have no beef with the waitlist because it shows the popluarity. (unfortunately that's because there are alot of people with nothing better to do stuck where they are.) But you can fix the cage problem. I can't even fathom how you could justify not trying.
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Old 01-30-2011, 04:33 PM   #2614
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MD will someday start spreading sure, but guess what company is gonna own the first casino that opens there, yup Penn... ...Never mind that all of northern VA and some parts of DC will still be closer to CT Than a MD casino.
Penn National is buying Rosecroft out of bankruptcy. Five minutes past the Woodrow Wilson Bridge. Once table games are approved (and they will be) this will be a much better choice for much of NoVa and DC.
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Old 01-30-2011, 05:58 PM   #2615
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I'd guess that MD is 3 years away from table games at best. They've also been reluctant to allow gambling in the wealthy and populous counties. I wouldn't hold my breath for poker in MD.

It's pretty simple really. If CT meets your needs and it convenient then go there. If it doesnt meet your needs go elsewhere or stay home. As long as there's a steady supply of players those of us that choose to visit will continue to do so. And we really don't care if you choose to play elsewhere.
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Old 01-30-2011, 07:09 PM   #2616
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Lets remember that this room isnt even a year old yet. I remember when Borgata had poker in that small cramp room downstairs with the sport book. It took awhile for them to move it to its current location. I was just at Borgata this past week and the rake on 2-5 was $5 per half hour. Sorry but $2 dollars per hr isnt enough for me to regularly drive 3 hrs and spend $20 each way on tolls. Stop complaining give the room some time to grow it take 12-18 months to work out all the bugs. I think they have made some great improvements over the last 6 months and I am sure they still want to get better.
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Old 01-30-2011, 07:29 PM   #2617
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Lets remember that this room isnt even a year old yet. I remember when Borgata had poker in that small cramp room downstairs with the sport book. It took awhile for them to move it to its current location. I was just at Borgata this past week and the rake on 2-5 was $5 per half hour. Sorry but $2 dollars per hr isnt enough for me to regularly drive 3 hrs and spend $20 each way on tolls. Stop complaining give the room some time to grow it take 12-18 months to work out all the bugs. I think they have made some great improvements over the last 6 months and I am sure they still want to get better.
Not to mention, there is no bad beat at Ctown, which is a big plus in my opinion. And the 2-5 games are definitely softer at in West Va., and play bigger, at least for now.

Of course, I love playing at Borg and the atmosphere there, as well as all the amenities, other games (particularly 20-40, stud, etc), and I still get there as much as I can. But Ctown is one hour from my house, which makes for an easy day trip. That's a big advantage.

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Old 01-31-2011, 03:02 AM   #2618
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Re: Hollywood Casino @ Charles Town, WV Poker Thread

I have to say they make zero improvements for the players, so far. Does it help there is a brand new poker room sign..no. Is the rail is better than the ropes? maybe, it the same to me. Is the cashier cage better than before, yes and no. But what poker room doesn't have cage.

Your guys really think the management care about the players...I don't think so. All they care about is $$$. And they will try to suck it all up while they can.

They are raking in $200k+ a week with no comps! on top of that they are charging $3 a hot dogs.(LOL) Are they going to blame this one on the WV lottery too. They really should comp the dogs and I don't even eat them.
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:07 AM   #2619
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Wow, some of you guys are so defensive about comments & complaints toward the CT poker room. I believe that people are trying to point out deficiencies in hopes of management making changes for the better.

Yes, the poker room is young but it opened slightly later then DP which is light years ahead of CT. I think everyone who goes CT wants & hopes for improvement & the way to do that is through dialogue. I've sent CT & Penn National many a comments via their website regarding my concerns. I haven't gotten a single response but at least I'm trying to put my 2 cents worth by telling them my opinion.

It is true that if CT doesn't want to change a thing, they don't have to. It is their prerogative. As a customer though, I believe I have the right to express my opinions to management. Seriously, the HVAC situation, no chip runners, not enough workers in cage are issues that need to be resolved.

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Old 01-31-2011, 11:19 AM   #2620
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Brief trip report - headed up there Saturday for the first time. Left from Arlington at 12:45 - arrived at 1:45pm. 1-2 NL list was 65 players long - wait was roughly 1.5 hours before getting a seat. Line at the cage was about 40 people deep....they had 2 people working the cage, 1 was counting money/selling chips and the second person was watching....perhaps for accuracy/accountability...

The room seemed to thin out around 4pm - maybe that is a better time to arrive rather than 1-2pm? I am going to try and get up there this coming saturday before 10 am...would love to hear from anybody if I can expect shorter lines at that hour.

Play was as described here - significantly worse than Borgata and other AC rooms. Lots of players buying in for 100, busting and rebuying. This was a new table they opened so no big stacks - and no huge pots either. 3bets/squeeze plays took down most hands preflop - very loose play throughout with most limping in with any hand ranges. Lot of people making odd hero calls with 3rd pair with flush/straight possibilities. Did not play long and pretty much card dead - this is clearly the situation where you don't try and get fancy and make your big hands and get paid off. Dealer mentioned that tournaments are expected in March I believe. Also would echo earlier comments about card size....needs to be addressed as you can usually view your neighbors cards without trying.
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:35 AM   #2621
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Re: Hollywood Casino @ Charles Town, WV Poker Thread

This may be a dumb question, but since I don't know the answer....

I'm basically a 1-2 and 2-5 NL player. I would like to occasionally play PLO. However, based the one time I played it, the 5-5 PLO game that is offered at CT is a bit rich for me. (The buy-in is 300 - 1500 and the play can be aggresssive, with much variance.)

Would I be able to reduce the amount needed to play 5-5 PLO by doing the following: buy-in for 300; if I later drift down to say about 100, then add some chips to the table so I'm up to about 200? In other words, if I lose but still have chips left on the table, can I add some chips but not bring my total chips (on the table) up to the minimum buy-in of 300? (When I play at CT, I usually keep extra chips in my pocket, to avoid extra trips to the cage.)
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Old 01-31-2011, 03:14 PM   #2622
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This may be a dumb question, but since I don't know the answer....

I'm basically a 1-2 and 2-5 NL player. I would like to occasionally play PLO. However, based the one time I played it, the 5-5 PLO game that is offered at CT is a bit rich for me. (The buy-in is 300 - 1500 and the play can be aggresssive, with much variance.)

Would I be able to reduce the amount needed to play 5-5 PLO by doing the following: buy-in for 300; if I later drift down to say about 100, then add some chips to the table so I'm up to about 200? In other words, if I lose but still have chips left on the table, can I add some chips but not bring my total chips (on the table) up to the minimum buy-in of 300? (When I play at CT, I usually keep extra chips in my pocket, to avoid extra trips to the cage.)
As long as you still have chips in play, you can add any amount to your stack as long as it is not over the table maximum. If you had $5 left in this game you can add as little as $5 to your stack. The minimum buy in only applies for your initial buy in and if you lose your entire stack.
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Old 01-31-2011, 03:48 PM   #2623
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<snippage>The room seemed to thin out around 4pm - maybe that is a better time to arrive rather than 1-2pm? I am going to try and get up there this coming saturday before 10 am...would love to hear from anybody if I can expect shorter lines at that hour. <snippage>
The evening shift of dealers arrives at 4/4:30, expanding the number of dealers available. Usually more tables open then, thinning the wait line.
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:49 PM   #2624
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I'm sure that this is a repeated ?...so sorry...but, what is the difference in travel time from Arlington (Pentagon City), traveling through Frederick vs. RT 7 & 9? Thanks!
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Old 02-01-2011, 07:30 AM   #2625
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You mean 495 - 270? Not sure about the time difference and it would depend (a LOT) on time of day but it's never going to be faster that's for sure.
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