They don't charge for soft drinks in the Poker Room, but I don't know about the rest of the casino. But there are a lot of complaints about finding a waiter/waitress to serve them, most likely because many don't tip them.

I have been averaging about 50 hands per hour, so I guess the rate at which I get credits will decrease.

Industry standard is $1/hr. Seems to me it most likely will be an increase instead of decrease.
50 hands per hr at $.70/40 hands = $.87.5/hr.

I don't understand. If they are now giving rewards based on once every 40 hands, and the actual average number of hands is 50 hands per hour, and they switch to once per hour instead of number of hands, then we will be getting a decrease in reward points per hour.

I don't know where you came up with the $0.70, but that was not included in the post above. Maybe you know something about the upcoming changes that you have not revealed?

It is hard to compare the games at Cherokee with some other casinos, especially the Seminole Hard Rock casinos in FL. For example, at the Seminole Hard Rock's the 1/2 NL has max buy-in of $100 and is a totally different game than the 1/2 NL at Cherokee with a $500 max buy-in. The 1/2 NL pots and rake are much higher at the Cherokee because there is always much more money on the table, and because the number of hands per hour is at least double with PokerPro.

At Seminole Hard Rock casinos, they pay $0.60 per hour for 1/2 NL and 1/3 NL, and $1.00 per hour on 2/5 NL and 5/10 NL. But they only play about 20 hands per hour, 25 hands max.

But they are not changing it to "industry standard $1/hr". It will be 70rc ($.70)/hr instead. Thus a sizable decrease FROM the $.87.5/hr figure.

The system has been 70rc and 28tier per 40 hands. Thus most of the time you were getting 45-50h+/hr but even more if the game was short handed.

However the PLO game stands to slightly benefit since 10 handed PLO usually gets ~ 35-38h/hr.

if ~20 cents per hour is a sizable amount to you, i suggest you do not play poker. haven't read this thread in a while and have to say there is too much bitching going on. they are going through a lot of changes and trying the best they can with what pull they (the poker hosts) have.

Perhaps there's a new trend afoot! Since the first day of the new poker room there have only been negative trends (other than the room itself, ...new carpet etc.) Things like jammed up tables; cashier cage, bar, kitchen all built into the poker room but seldom or never used. No poker promotions, no poker announcements, little foot traffic, no dedicated poker management, nutty TV placement, infrequent cocktail service, yada, yada on and on.

Well not any more!

They have made the first improvement, they've twisted the tables a few inches to allow more room between the tables.

It's not much but it's a good start. Let up pray for more. Thank you poker room staff!

Harrah's Cherokee standard is 26 tier credits and 70 cents per 40 hands. That will change to per hour once live cards are in the air.

If you actually read any of my posts I am not the one complaining about anything. The aforementioned post was a neutral statement clarifying someone's misconception. 20/c is "sizable" as a relative % change from this misconception. 20c/hr also doesn't affect my lifetime Cherokee cash game average of $61.44/hr much. But maybe it would matter more to the $18/hr volume grinders. Again, relative.

It would be cool to have more strategically located televisions.

I can't believe as of 7:30 PM a 3/6 Limit game has not started. It's friggin Friday. I guess the limit players are waiting to play 5/10 Limit with Live cards. SMDH

So if they award 26 tier credits and 70 cents per hour, and the current average is 50 hands per hour, that will be a reduction to players.

My point was that if the PokerPro tables average 50 hands per hour (they do when I have played) then they are collecting a much larger rake per hour than casinos with live cards that average about half that many hands per hour, and instead of decreasing the comps they should be increasing them IMO or at least comping based on number of hands and not by hour. Even on weekends there are many empty tables (although apparently PokerPro may not be able to handle a full house at Cherokee).

I do agree that the issue of poker comps is mostly psychological, as it is with comps for casino games. Many people play casino games that are impossible to beat in the long term, and the comps seem to be a consideration in attracting people to play them. If I drive 3 hours to get to Cherokee and pay $150 per night hotel bills on weekends, I expect there to be some players in the Poker Room, and things were pretty sparse last weekend.

Things are sparse tonight.

Is the same September tournament schedule carrying over into October? I was thinking of coming up next week, but couldn't find the schedule online. Thanks.

A Sunday tournament may be added but I haven't seen that in writing.

They need a Friday Tournament. The cash games sucked on Friday. That is becoming the norm on Fridays. SMDH

I've only been a couple times to Harrah's (live in Atlanta) but not in a couple years. If i walk in a casino I'm rolling the dice, playing BJ and probably playing a decent amount of poker. I'll want to eat, have a few drinks and have a good time. I'm not super familiar with the electronic tables and the repetitive complaints I read about the cashier cage, food and drink service, TV's in bad areas, etc do not make me want to rush up and play. I may come up in the spring to check out the Circuit Event but not sure I'll plan a trip before that. Just seems like too many people have legitimate complaints that are not being addressed. I'm not a high roller by any means but I would certainly bring my hard earned cash to the venue to have some fun. Reading through this thread makes me want to keep playing home games or take the trip to Biliox. Just my .02.

TDA

As someone who has complained about TV placement, let me clarify. It's not any worse than most other poker rooms, mostly because most other poker rooms are larger and the walls are too far away for most to see the TV's very well no matter where they are placed. At Cherokee, the poker room is relatively small and narrow, and using the same number of TV's as they have now, they could have placed them more intelligently. But it's not something that should keep someone away from the casino. And it is probably not realistic to think they will spend the money to rewire and move them, it is just a shame it wasn't done particularly well in the first place. But if find that TV's are poorly placed in 95% of every bar and restaurant I have ever been in.

Food is above average at Cherokee, and the best restaurant/bar is right outside the poker room. PokerPro has many advantages IMO (number of hands per hour, etc) even if there are some disadvantages. I don't think there is anything that should keep one from trying Cherokee, even if it is not prefect (I don't know of any poker rooms that are perfect). I think they will improve things as time goes on. I was just a little surprised that a company like Harrah's wouldn't have done a little better right off the bat.

Now you've seen it in writing. A $60 2pm Sunday tournament has now been added to our schedule. The only other change is that registration will start four hours prior to the beginning of play for all of our tournaments. Here is the current schedule:

Monday ($120, 7p); Tuesday ($60, 7p); Wednesday ($30, 2a) & PLO ($60, 7p); Thursday ($60, 7p); Saturday ($120, 10a); Sunday ($60, 2p)

Hey Anthony
Thanks for the feedback in this thread. I've been coming to Cherokee for over two years now and overall I would say the level of service has gone up considerably.

One item of interest for me is the tournament fees. A 20% fee on the 120 seems a little excessive given the fact you guys don't have to pay dealers and the room can be run with one person. I'm not sure what percentage there is on the other tournaments but I think it's comparable. I would be more open (as I'm sure others would as well) to playing these tournaments if the fees weren't so high in relation to the buyin.

Any chance of a reduction in the fee amount for tournaments ? Thanks again.

Good, reasonable post, Dude. Don't let the complaints deter you. They have some legitimacy but are vastly overblown for the most part, imo.

Lots of players from metro Atlanta (many of them very, very good) play regularly at Cherokee.

Also, the addition of live BJ, craps and roulette have jacked up the overall casino action at Cherokee.

Yay for Sunday tourn. Let's think about making it $90 or $120.

Sadly, the Cherokee casino no longer is immune from the kind of violent/predatory behavior that I have mainly associated with some Atlantic City casinos, most notably the Trump Taj Mahal.

Sunday night, a 76-year-old woman from Indiana was robbed, shot and killed by a masked gunman in the parking lot of the Fairfield Inn & Suites across the street from the Harrahs Cherokee casino, where she and her husband had been earlier.

Tribal police said they are examining casino video surveillance tapes for possible leads.

This is very tragic and obv very disturbing for casino customers.

http://www.citizen-times.com/article...text|Frontpage

Wow, that's awful.

This is particularly scary for me, since I usually stay at the Fairfield Inn, and have been in the hotel parking lot late at night almost every night. I am going to have to rethink my trips to Cherokee.

The shooting is horrible.

Where do most of you stay when up at Cherokee?

Since I tend to go with friends we stay in walking distance so one person can head back to the room if the others want to keep playing. Ive stayed at the Fairfield Inn but mostly stay the Holiday Inn Express or the Seven Clans Inn. When by myself I’ve stayed at Microtel. Ive found all the rooms nice. I will be keeping an eye out at night or driving back to the room more often now.