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08-06-2012 , 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by playertee
I have reasons to believe they changed this, need a confirmation though
Still a 1 hour wait.
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08-06-2012 , 03:34 AM
Department of the Interior approved "Vegas-style" gaming in Cherokee on Friday. Live blackjack, craps, and roulette should hit the floor very soon. Poker room will remain entirely digital through at least the end of the year.
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08-06-2012 , 12:30 PM
Hand happened in the room this weekend, vs one of the scum bag old regs...
Long story short, he limp/called with JJ, flopped a set and stacked my KK...he quits right the next hand, he didn't even play his btn, and moves to the other table right away...wtf is this about?
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08-06-2012 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by playertee
Hand happened in the room this weekend, vs one of the scum bag old regs...
Long story short, he limp/called with JJ, flopped a set and stacked my KK...he quits right the next hand, he didn't even play his btn, and moves to the other table right away...wtf is this about?
I thought that was allowed, but that he had to buy in for same amount he had at other table. Technically, nothing wrong with moving tables. Just sucks when they do it after they take your money. Kind of classless IMO.
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08-06-2012 , 02:18 PM
Good turnout this weekend. I noticed on Saturday night they were using every table in the poker room. It was full and there were no shows or promotions that I know of on Saturday. A couple of times our table noticed there were between 20 and 30 people standing between the glass doors, the cashier cage and the front desk, the room was packed.

Last edited by taterpud; 08-06-2012 at 02:24 PM.
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08-06-2012 , 06:20 PM
Did it seem to be a lot of tourists or a lot of card players looking to take advantage?
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08-06-2012 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by vanelli56
Did it seem to be a lot of tourists or a lot of card players looking to take advantage?
A mix of very bad old regs, a few good young regs...

The PLO game is funny, it plays more like bingo...
limp limp limp, raise pot with AAxx, call call call
flop whatever...either check check check, or someone will bet pot with the nuts
Repeat

There are no half pot bets, no bluffing what so ever...it was actually pretty boring
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08-06-2012 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by playertee
Hand happened in the room this weekend, vs one of the scum bag old regs...
Long story short, he limp/called with JJ, flopped a set and stacked my KK...he quits right the next hand, he didn't even play his btn, and moves to the other table right away...wtf is this about?
Not sure what part of your story indicates scummy behavior. If his money was so much more important to you than anybody else at your table's, why didn't you just move to the other table yourself?
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08-06-2012 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cltrich
Not sure what part of your story indicates scummy behavior. If his money was so much more important to you than anybody else at your table's, why didn't you just move to the other table yourself?
Other people were asking him where r u going and he didn't look back nor even answered...it is a pretty low class move in my book...the whole table agreed
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08-06-2012 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by cltrich
Not sure what part of your story indicates scummy behavior. If his money was so much more important to you than anybody else at your table's, why didn't you just move to the other table yourself?
It was a douchey move by the guy to up and leave after winning a big pot. Obv, they're are no rules broken but its a douchebag move.

Especially, if he did not have to buy-in at the other table for same amount he left previous table. That would = "Going South"

I almost got kicked out of Bally's in Vegas in January after losing a $1200+ pot to a guy who donked his way to miracle river. He instantly racked up and left.
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08-06-2012 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ReedMoney
It was a douchey move by the guy to up and leave after winning a big pot. Obv, they're are no rules broken but its a douchebag move.

Especially, if he did not have to buy-in at the other table for same amount he left previous table. That would = "Going South"
Solely based on AnthonyJ's post that there is a 1 hour wait to lower your stack, we can assume this is not what happened. Am I being a douche when I move from a tougher table to a weaker one?

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Originally Posted by ReedMoney
I almost got kicked out of Bally's in Vegas in January after losing a $1200+ pot to a guy who donked his way to miracle river. He instantly racked up and left.
I've never played at Bally's but how were you in danger of getting kicked out? Because you lost a big pot on the river? I don't understand.
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08-06-2012 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cltrich
I've never played at Bally's but how were you in danger of getting kicked out? Because you lost a big pot on the river? I don't understand.
I believe that he's saying that he tilts easily, likely because he's playing with scared money. Otherwise he wouldn't have lost it when his opponent picked up and he wouldn't have mentioned the pot size. (Alternatively, he might have meant that he berated his fishy opponent into leaving after the opponent sucked out.) But none of that has anything to do with Harrah's Cherokee, so please keep things on topic.

As for picking up after winning a big pot, or "hit and run" as some call it, I'd never do it in a home game or a game in which I'm a regular. But frankly, if you're uncomfortable with your newly acquired big stack and you're never going to see your opponents again, I wouldn't worry about picking up. You don't owe your opponents anything other than respect and integrity; picking up after you win a hand or not rebuying after getting stacked doesn't implicate either.
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08-07-2012 , 11:55 AM
Lol at scared money. Up 8 buyins at the time. Villian made a comment after sucking out and myself along with others at table were shocked. Plus, it was my last night in Vegas after a very successful trip so I was having a few drinks and mixing it up.

Anyways, moving on...Has anymore progress been made with the poker room cage? The night I was there I saw numerous people that want to play or rebuy get visually upset that they had to go all the way down to casino cage to load cards.
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08-07-2012 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by playertee
Hand happened in the room this weekend, vs one of the scum bag old regs...
Long story short, he limp/called with JJ, flopped a set and stacked my KK...he quits right the next hand, he didn't even play his btn, and moves to the other table right away...wtf is this about?
He can do that only if he switched to a different game. If your playing 1/2nlhe and you move to another 1/2 nlhe table then you have to buyin with same amount or more unless you've been off the table for 1hr. If that happened to me, i would have called the floor to make him buyin for more and if he stayed on the table, I would have moved to that table.
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08-07-2012 , 05:24 PM
It's gratifying to see the level of complaining/crotch-grabbing about what is in fact a terrific new Cherokee poker room beginning to subside.

As for the persistent gripe about not keeping the cashier's cage open 24/7, it's less than 200 steps to the downstairs cashier, so what's the big whoop? (There's even a fairly close elevator for disability access.)

Here are two positives about the new room that I think have gone unmentioned:

- Unlike virtually all the other casinos where I have played live poker, you can easily get to Cherokee's room without having to walk through a gamut of smoke, noise, crowds and pit-game temptations.

- I love the well-lit new room, despite some of the glare reflecting off the digital screens. It's much easier to read players' physical tells, body reactions and all that good old-school stuff than in the noisy, smoky old dungeon that was the previous room. My win rate has gone way up now that I can clearly see everything and everyone.
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08-07-2012 , 06:12 PM
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As for the persistent gripe about not keeping the cashier's cage open 24/7, it's less than 200 steps to the downstairs cashier, so what's the big whoop? (There's even a fairly close elevator for disability access.)
doubtful any of the people I saw get frustrated with cage being closed are 2+2 members.
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08-07-2012 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ReedMoney
Villian made a comment after sucking out and myself along with others at table were shocked.
That's a big part of the story you left out. I wouldn't have liked that either.
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Originally Posted by Jediburke
If that happened to me, i would have called the floor to make him buyin for more and if he stayed on the table, I would have moved to that table.
This course of action seems very reasonable to me, especially if he was enough of a fish that his changing tables changed the dynamics of the two tables (or even if you just specifically wanted his money more than anybody elses). I guess I'm curious what playertee did.
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08-07-2012 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by taterpud
Good turnout this weekend. I noticed on Saturday night they were using every table in the poker room. It was full and there were no shows or promotions that I know of on Saturday. A couple of times our table noticed there were between 20 and 30 people standing between the glass doors, the cashier cage and the front desk, the room was packed.
any clue if the 5-10 limit game ran?
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08-08-2012 , 08:52 AM
I spent 72 hours this past week-end in Cherokee and made the following observations:

1) Poker tables have been spaced out a bit.

2) Temperature swings are still evidenced. I am always prepared for a cold poker room. I wear layers so that if it heats up I can remain comfortable. What I experienced this week-end did not cause me any distress.

3) Drink service was fine. Cute new servers. No problem in getting liquid refreshment.

4) The place was jammed. Saturday had a 2-5, 1-2 PLO, and the 3-6 limit running. The place was teeming with ichthyoids.

5) Brio is a good place to eat.

6) The cage presents no problems. Manned or not.

7) David was his cranky self. Whether you know it or not, David is an educated gentleman and a fine person. I think he would rather be dealing poker than running a room. He is reputed to have skills. When live cards arrive, watch for this development.

8) New crew during the late hours. Competence.

9) No smoke pollution.

10) Blew the motor in the Wagoneer (262,000 miles). I am trying to get Rusty's in Newport to come and get it. I will have to drive the Volvo from now on.

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08-08-2012 , 11:06 AM
They had some computer glitches Tuesday night. Something happened during the tournament and all the poker tables locked up. Even the cash games locked up. From a little before 10 pm till about 1 a.m. we all waited to see if we could finish the hand/game/tournament, or be able to get our money off the table or at the cashier. About 1 a.m., a good 3 hours later, the system came back up and they were able to end the cash games, the tourny was ended with a couple dozen or so folks still in it and we were able to finally cash out and remove our funds at the cashier. (It was tricky because the cash games stopped mid-hand with hundreds of dollars on the table and no way to quit or sit out. Most folks hung around because they didn't want to leave the table with their screen logged in with money on the table and no way to log out.) They chopped the tourney and ended all the cash games.

Once the dust had settled they restarted the cash games and we played from about 1 until 2:30 a.m. when they announced the computers were still acting up and they closed the entire poker room. When I left they didn't know when it might reopen, they were hoping for sometime Wednesday but didn't really know.
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08-08-2012 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ralvi
They had some computer glitches Tuesday night. Something happened during the tournament and all the poker tables locked up. Even the cash games locked up. From a little before 10 pm till about 1 a.m. we all waited to see if we could finish the hand/game/tournament, or be able to get our money off the table or at the cashier. About 1 a.m., a good 3 hours later, the system came back up and they were able to end the cash games, the tourny was ended with a couple dozen or so folks still in it and we were able to finally cash out and remove our funds at the cashier. (It was tricky because the cash games stopped mid-hand with hundreds of dollars on the table and no way to quit or sit out. Most folks hung around because they didn't want to leave the table with their screen logged in with money on the table and no way to log out.) They chopped the tourney and ended all the cash games.

Once the dust had settled they restarted the cash games and we played from about 1 until 2:30 a.m. when they announced the computers were still acting up and they closed the entire poker room. When I left they didn't know when it might reopen, they were hoping for sometime Wednesday but didn't really know.
Wow. That's scary.

AnthonyJ - perhaps you can shed some light on exactly what can happen if this happens again? What recourse do players have to get their money back? What if I were playing, and could not hang around for another 3-4 hours?

I have played there for a few years with only minor glitches on the tables - but hearing this makes me nervous. I also remember players talking about a recent power outage where something similar happened.

What kind of safeguards are in place server-side (logs, backups, redundant power) to protect the players and their monies?
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08-08-2012 , 12:56 PM
They should freeze all hands (which looks like the computer did for them), shut down the room and pay out whatever cash player's had in their accounts and in the pot of the frozen hands and chop the tourney evenly.

Then they should smash the machines and bring in real dealers
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08-08-2012 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlotte FatMan
They should freeze all hands (which looks like the computer did for them), shut down the room and pay out whatever cash player's had in their accounts and in the pot of the frozen hands and chop the tourney evenly.

Then they should smash the machines and bring in real dealers
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If they get live cards some higher games could start running. Hopefully a 5-10 NL. 2 tables of 5-10 NL are usually running all day at foxwoods. I see no reason it couldn't happen here with live cards... eventually.
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08-08-2012 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dohnutts
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If they get live cards some higher games could start running. Hopefully a 5-10 NL. 2 tables of 5-10 NL are usually running all day at foxwoods. I see no reason it couldn't happen here with live cards... eventually.
If you know, what are the normal buy-ins for 5/10 at Foxwoods? BestBet Jax has a $3000 cap and their games are relatively soft for a big game like that...
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08-08-2012 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by floppinnothing
If you know, what are the normal buy-ins for 5/10 at Foxwoods? BestBet Jax has a $3000 cap and their games are relatively soft for a big game like that...
Foxwoods buy-in for 5/10 is $500-2k.
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