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07-14-2010 , 10:08 AM
Thanks for the report and pics RatedRDP. Probably gonna head up Thursday evening for some 2/5.
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07-14-2010 , 09:38 PM
I just spent about 2 hours there after work 5-7pm on Wednesday night. Here is a quick TR.

BBJ
This is an excerpt from a flyer that I picked up from the poker room:

If a player has Aces full of Jacks (must have pocket aces) or better beaten it qualified for the posted amount. Both hole cards must play in the top two ranked hands, and there must be a minimum of 4 players dealt in at the start of the hand. The hand must be dealt to the final card (River) and the pot must have a minimum of $20. Losing hand receives 50% of posted meter, winning hand 25%, and the remaining qualifying players at the table equally split the remaining 25%. To qualify, remaining players must have been dealt into the hand."

The above is valid for $10/20 LHE and $5/10 NLHE.

I expect this to change since the house doesn't seem to take a cut or set aside seed money for the next BBJ unless they're taking a cut from the BBJ rake ahead of time.

Dealers/Managers
Most of the dealers and staff seem to be transplants from AC or another casino. The dealers seemed competent albeit naive. During an eventual misdeal, the dealer at my table omitted the UTG+1 player and did not realize it until he got to the button. At this time he asked, "Did anyone look at their first hole card?" He seemed satisfied when everyone answered "No" and continued to deal until the BB insisted (correctly) that it be declared a misdeal and mucked.

Some dealers were a little slow collecting bets and counting rake but I expect this to change with experience.

Waitresses
The cocktail waitresses were surprisingly young, chipper and attractive. I suspect they put their Saturday night crowd out for opening night. Still, it's a nice change from the majority of waitresses in AC.

Food and Drink
As far as I could tell, there were no complimentary alcoholic beverages. Corona was $3 for a 12 oz. cup. Bud, Bud Light and Stella were on tap. There seemed to be a decent menu. Food is delivered to the player at the table on a cart.

House Rules
If there is any confusion in your mind about a rule, call the floor or check ahead of time. I requested to see the house rule book and it was 24 typed pages. I requested that the manager publish it to their website. I did not read the whole thing but there are some rules that veteran B&M players will be unfamiliar with.

A Note on Chip Commital
There is a betting line on all of the tables. Unless you verbally and audibly declare your action, you commit ALL chips that cross the betting line, regardless of whether they leave your hand or not. Either cut your checks behind the line or make sure you audibly announce your intentions.


That's it for now. I hope this was helpful. I plan on going back tomorrow after work.
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07-15-2010 , 09:24 AM
I have been to Dover Downs each of the first 3 days. Each time i got there they had 2x 2/4 and 2x 1/2 tables running and yesterday they got a 3rd 1/2 and a 2/5 game going by the time i left. I imagine once word gets out that the room is open they will start filling all 12 tables on a regular basis.

There is space in the room for 4 more tables i would guess but I do not know if they have any planes to do that.

Alchohol cost the regular bar price. They are not allowed to give it away but I don't see why they cant charge a dollar, I know that i will buy considerably less beer at $3 a piece.

I played NL the first 2 days and Limit the third. Limit was super soft just like any AC 2/4 game i have played in. The first 1/2 game was surprisingly tight and made up of almost all people who knew each other. The second game was much better but still a little tighter than the games I have played in AC before.
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07-15-2010 , 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by jas759
BBJ
This is an excerpt from a flyer that I picked up from the poker room:

If a player has Aces full of Jacks (must have pocket aces) or better beaten it qualified for the posted amount. Both hole cards must play in the top two ranked hands, and there must be a minimum of 4 players dealt in at the start of the hand. The hand must be dealt to the final card (River) and the pot must have a minimum of $20. Losing hand receives 50% of posted meter, winning hand 25%, and the remaining qualifying players at the table equally split the remaining 25%. To qualify, remaining players must have been dealt into the hand."

The above is valid for $10/20 LHE and $5/10 NLHE.

I expect this to change since the house doesn't seem to take a cut or set aside seed money for the next BBJ unless they're taking a cut from the BBJ rake ahead of time.
It is highly likely that they are taking a portion of the current drop to fund the future BBJ. Usually it is 75/25, where 75% of the daily BBJ drop is added to the current jackpot, and 25% of the daily BBJ drop is set aside to accumulate and become the starting amount for the new BBJ once the current one is hit.

The 50/25/25 you mentioned that is in the pamphlet is how the current BBJ (75% of the daily drop) is paid out to the customers when it is hit.

(I used 75/25 as an example. I do not the exact details on how Dover Downs splits up their BBJ drop. It would not surprise me if they took a small percentage for "administration".)
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07-18-2010 , 10:01 AM
Some clarifications on a few of the rules I noticed there for you guys....
If you cross the betting line with your chips (in your hand off the table or on the table it doesn't matter) those chips are committed to the pot. Most of the dealers are pretty inexperienced so they failed to catch this a few times.

Cocktails are not comped and this will not change in the near future. Sorry guys it's a state thing. Also, bottles are not allowed at the table in case the players "get violent" so they pour your ordered bottle beer into a cup. Keep this in mind when ordering a bottle beer for the extra $1.

If you show one card you must show ALL cards... yes even if you were not called. In most cases the dealer will automatically flip over the other card.


Funny incident at a 1/2 table. On the flop action was a $2 bet then an $8 raise to $10 with 2 folds behind. When the dealer went to grab the folded cards he scooped them right into the $2 hand and grabbed the wrong card. The hand should be declared dead right? Well the floor was called and he starts whispering to the guy "what was your hand?" then motions like he was going to go through the dead cards. Eventually he made the right call and declared it dead but throughout the whole whispering ordeal everyone was looking at each other with the same "wtf?" expression.

The lack of experience shows at times and dealers fail to catch some things but overall this room is impressive and the kinks will obviously work out over time.

Oh and table options on Fri/Sat were 2/4LHE 1/2NLHE 2/5 NLHE 1/2 PLO8 and I'm pretty sure they had a $5/10 going at one point or another.
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07-18-2010 , 12:50 PM
I played out there for a few hours last night, and overall it was a good experience, being my first time playing in a casino. However, there were a few dealers that were just bad. At one point, there were 3 (THREE) misdeals in a row. We didn't see a hand for almost 20 minutes. After that, I think there was a shift change or some other rotation change, because I didn't have a bad dealer for the rest of the night.
My opinion is that the dealers can only get better, as the poker room has been open less than a week.
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07-19-2010 , 01:28 PM
I'm a dealer here at Dover Downs so if anyone has any questions I'll be happy to answer them as best as I can.
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07-19-2010 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Antal Fyra
I'm a dealer here at Dover Downs so if anyone has any questions I'll be happy to answer them as best as I can.
Please relay to management to consider changing the bad beat jackpot drop rules from "$1 from each pot that has action on the blinds" to "$1 from each pot $20 or greater". It is silly to take a $1 from each pot under $20, when to qualify for the BBJ, the pot needs to be $20 or greater.

I enjoyed playing there, but I will not play there as much in the future if the room continues to drop $1 out of a $6 pot for a BBJ.
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07-19-2010 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Jugador30

I enjoyed playing there, but I will not play there as much in the future if the room continues to drop $1 out of a $6 pot for a BBJ.
Will do. And I agree with you on that aspect too.
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07-20-2010 , 11:30 PM
Also I've heard we'll be having tournaments in 4-6 weeks! No info on the buy-ins/rake but I can assume they'll be similar to what Del Park is doing.
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07-21-2010 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Antal Fyra
Also I've heard we'll be having tournaments in 4-6 weeks! No info on the buy-ins/rake but I can assume they'll be similar to what Del Park is doing.
Sounds good. Which games are running regularly in the poker room?
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07-21-2010 , 11:41 AM
We're mostly running 1-2NL in the room with an interest list for 2-5 that I've seen go on occasion. For right now it seems to be mainly a weekend game but since people ask for it every day I'm sure once the room really gets going it will be a regular game.

We've also had a 1-2 PLO8 on the weekend as well.
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07-21-2010 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Antal Fyra
We're mostly running 1-2NL in the room with an interest list for 2-5 that I've seen go on occasion. For right now it seems to be mainly a weekend game but since people ask for it every day I'm sure once the room really gets going it will be a regular game.

We've also had a 1-2 PLO8 on the weekend as well.
Any limit games going on a regular basis?
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07-21-2010 , 12:32 PM
Just 2-4 right now. If we get enough players we'll put any game out there. We've had a few players show interest in starting a 4-8 game as well.

According to all of the locals (players and coworkers) Dover isn't much of a summer tourist town. They all expect the room to explode once the summers over and everyone gets off the beach. We have two colleges right around here that will be starting up again mid august, I expect our room to be going full speed by then.
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07-21-2010 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Antal Fyra
Just 2-4 right now. If we get enough players we'll put any game out there. We've had a few players show interest in starting a 4-8 game as well.

According to all of the locals (players and coworkers) Dover isn't much of a summer tourist town. They all expect the room to explode once the summers over and everyone gets off the beach. We have two colleges right around here that will be starting up again mid august, I expect our room to be going full speed by then.
Or the 80,000 people roll in for NASCAR in September.
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07-22-2010 , 02:34 AM
The Monster Mile holds 150,000 people....
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07-22-2010 , 09:47 AM
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The Monster Mile holds 150,000 people....
Please... I am well aware of the capacity of Dover. Just ask around the property and they will tell you of the entire sections that sit empty during the race. They actually cover the empty seats with advertizing banners so it will not look as bad on TV.
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07-22-2010 , 11:01 AM
How crowded is the poker room on the weekends? Is there a long wait for a 1/2 table?

Also, do you know if they will have round the clock sit n go's next month ? What about tourneys? I've been waiting for tourneys and cannot wait!

Thanks..
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07-27-2010 , 06:29 PM
BBJ hit yesterday for $22,177.
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07-27-2010 , 11:18 PM
GG.

What were the hands?

I've been there twice. Nice, clean room. 2/4 LHE was juicy, but it's a rake trap and not really worth it. Wish they'd spread some higher limits, maybe 4/8-5/10.
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07-28-2010 , 12:49 PM
I'm thinking about coming to check out Dover next weekend (8/7). I've been to Harrington and enjoyed the room but going to Dover is only an extra 20 miles so I might check it out. How are the waits looking on weekends?
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07-28-2010 , 09:23 PM
It was a straight flush over 4 of a kind
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07-29-2010 , 12:37 PM
Played for a few hours yesterday and a dealer was telling us they are adding 4 to 6 more tables and tournaments will be starting in about 3 weeks.
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08-02-2010 , 12:27 PM
How were the crowds at Dover on Saturday? I'm thinking of heading up for the day this Saturday.
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08-04-2010 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ColeW123
GG.

What were the hands?
I was at the table next to the BBJ table and it was Quad 10's vs K high straight flush w/ the winner holding KQ
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