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01-10-2011 , 10:08 PM
Is this thing still going to run with a winter storm alert from Tuesday 2pm to Wednesday 10am?
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01-10-2011 , 10:13 PM
I have a number of PM's that guys want to play the mixed game again this Friday. I'm not sure I can get there, but will try to post something with my predictions on players for a 7 PM start or earleir

Put it up for 9 game with Razz and limit hold em in the mix at 4/8 in limit rounds. If everyone seated agree's to 5/10, then move it up, as long as the room management agree. They probably will because it's a white/red chip game due to stud ante's, $2.00 bring in's, $4.00 completed bets and 1/2 PLO and NL blinds. Also, if everyone wants to drop limit hold em, then we'll do that too. Just use the same format as last week. See some of you tomorrow.

Friday January 14, 2011 at 5 PM to 7 PM Start

9 Game- 8 player max tables and eight hands of each game per rotation

$1.00 Ante in Stud Rounds

Limit 4/8 Hold ‘em
Limit 4/8 Stud Hi/Lo
Pot Limit Omaha Hi, 1/2, $300.00 max loss per hand
Limit 4/8 2-7 Triple Draw (UTG and UTG plus one will not be dealt into this game when full)
Limit 4/8 Razz
No Limit Hold ‘em 1/2, $300.00 max loss per hand
Limit 4/8 Omaha Hi/Lo
Limit 4/8 Stud Hi
Limit 4/8 Badugi

Last edited by layemdown; 01-10-2011 at 10:22 PM.
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01-10-2011 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ColeW123
Is this thing still going to run with a winter storm alert from Tuesday 2pm to Wednesday 10am?
It may be my only chance!
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01-10-2011 , 10:54 PM
Mine too. I can't remember the last time I've played a tournament.
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01-11-2011 , 10:33 AM
I'm going over at noon for the freeroll. Plan to cal at 11 AM to start a list for 9 game. If that can't run, I'll play 1/2 or 4/8 limit.
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01-11-2011 , 01:55 PM
Good luck to all 2+2ers playing in the freeroll today!
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01-11-2011 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by layemdown
Who is avaliable this weekend to play mixed on Friday night at 7 PM?

Do you want to take down the "limit hold em" round and play 8 game and add Razz?

Do you want to play 4/8 or 5/10.

I'm in for a 6-7 PM start with the games you listed above. I'll be there regardless so if there isn't a list already started I'll start it up.

-Coop
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01-13-2011 , 10:18 AM
FYI, the mixed game should go tomorrow night. I highly doubt that I can make it, but it looks like seven players have said they want to play Friday by 7 PM. Start the list when the first arrive. A couple of guys will get there much earlier than 7 PM, so start the list. It won't matter of the game starts at 3, 5 or 7. Game role call will be called when 6 are on the "interest list" and can be played short with that group. We even started with five at half rake last weekend. We had to get approval from a suit for that. make sure you ask if five handed. It is on the official board as a 5/10 game, but when you guys start it, it can be play either 4/8 or 5/10. It will play white/red regardless because of ante's and bring ins and blinds.....so you will need some white. I will try to get there if I can. The same line up and max loss cap in PLO/NL. 9 game with Razz in the mix. Table can adjust the game line up if all agree. I posted this on the game thread too. Rapini changed the title to say "Next game January 14". Thanks

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01-13-2011 , 10:59 AM
I have been thinking about another mix of 5 game and making a date.
But, here's the thing. You really don't need anyone to do this. You can make a mix anytime/anydate in the room, simply by talking to the shift manager and putting it on the list. A game like below would not be played by the regular limit players, but might get the juices flowing for the NL junkies. It could also help them learn 2-7 and Badugi. What do you guys think?

5 game- 8 player max. 8 rounds per game

1/2 Hold em NL
2-7 6/12 limit Triple Draw (2 players out)
1/2 PLO
1/2 PL Hold em
6/12 limit Badugi

Last edited by Rapini; 01-13-2011 at 11:56 AM. Reason: per layemdown
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01-13-2011 , 11:57 AM
I like the suggestion for that 5-game mix, except I'd put 6/12 O8 in there instead of either PLHE or NLHE because PLHE and NLHE are enough alike that it's basically like playing the same game twice. Of course reasonable minds can disagree on that issue, but I think the O8 would add good variety.
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01-13-2011 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapini
I like the suggestion for that 5-game mix, except I'd put 6/12 O8 in there instead of either PLHE or NLHE because PLHE and NLHE are enough alike that it's basically like playing the same game twice. Of course reasonable minds can disagree on that issue, but I think the O8 would add good variety.
Yes! Actually, here's a 5-game lineup I would love to see:

1/2 NLHE
1/2 PLO
6/12 LO8
6/12 Stud8
6/12 Badugi
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01-13-2011 , 03:01 PM
I think you guys are both right. This might also help the 8/9 game even at 4/8 and 5/10 level.

I talked to a regular NL player at the freeroll and asked why he didn't play the 9 game. He said he wasn't sure the game played fast enough. With less games in a mix, we might be able to feed the 9 game better with a 5 game.

Once we agree on a good 5 game line up, I'll talk to Anthony and his number two and see if we could put a "4/8, 9" game and a "6/12 5 game" listed as a spead list on their board. Also, I think the first weekend in February might be a good time to test out the 5 game. I'll make a new thread for it if we have the interest from this discussion and come up with a good line up and Anthony agrees to spread it. I like what you guys have here though.

I might mix in the Stud 08 between the NL and PLO1/2 NLHE
1/2 NLHE
6/12 Stud8
6/12 LO8
1/2 PLO
6/12 Badugi

Last edited by Rapini; 01-13-2011 at 03:11 PM. Reason: per layemdown
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01-13-2011 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by layemdown
I might mix in the Stud 08 between the NL and PLO1/2 NLHE
1/2 NLHE
6/12 Stud8
6/12 LO8
1/2 PLO
6/12 Badugi

I would probably not play this.

Prefer 4/8 limit as I am trying to exercise b-roll management and 6/12 is too much for my meager $1300 b-roll. Really need to have at least 5 buy-ins to have any comfort at live poker, and I am thinking the realistic min buy-in at 6/12 is gonna be $400-$500.

Also, I'm not a PLO or NLHE player by trade, (but am willing to play it in a more extensive 4/8 mix where I buy-in for like $250-$300).

Still - would love to see it go just to keep the mixed games things going. Also - if I am there when this goes and am able to go on a heater at 4-8 then I would certainly walk over with a buy-in.
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01-13-2011 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Spike Forehand
I would probably not play this.

Prefer 4/8 limit as I am trying to exercise b-roll management and 6/12 is too much for my meager $1300 b-roll..
Hmmm.... A buy-in is about 1/10 of your roll. I'm not sure, even in limit, that you have enough of a buffer there.

But, dropping to $2/4 and doubling the rake isn't a good idea either....


Eh, you have mad skillz, you'll work that BR up. Never mind.
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01-13-2011 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Spike Forehand
I would probably not play this.

Prefer 4/8 limit as I am trying to exercise b-roll management and 6/12 is too much for my meager $1300 b-roll. Really need to have at least 5 buy-ins to have any comfort at live poker, and I am thinking the realistic min buy-in at 6/12 is gonna be $400-$500.

Also, I'm not a PLO or NLHE player by trade, (but am willing to play it in a more extensive 4/8 mix where I buy-in for like $250-$300).

Still - would love to see it go just to keep the mixed games things going. Also - if I am there when this goes and am able to go on a heater at 4-8 then I would certainly walk over with a buy-in.
You're not the only one in the Delaware park player pool who is comfortable at the top at 4/8 and stretched to 5/10. Probably me too. That's one reason I'd like both games to be able to be played. I'm an "either or" kind of guy when it comes to hold em and am happy to play 1/2 NL or 4/8. The nine game, therefore, is right up my alley and I really enjoyed Badugi and Triple draw. I'm also comfortable at 6/12, but probably play a bit different (not sure if that's bad or good....probably bad). What I like about the five game, is it's probably not going to take the regular limit guys away from their game nor make limit players want to play NL or PLO, but it may get some of the NL guys interested in limit. At least that's my theory. Ideally, both the five game and nine game would run at the same time.

Do I sound like I've been smoking a fatty? BTW, I don't do that! Don't do drugs!

It's all conceptual now and just a discussion. If people begin to sound interested, I may come out of retirement and become the "game coordinator". It also might be to early to do something like the 5 game. Possibly, the best course of action is to continue to promote the nine game until it sustains itself and runs without coordination. I sure don't want to kill one for the other. But, it would be great if these games ran individually too. How would you like to walk into Delaware Park on a Friday night and be able to choose between limit hold em, limit badugi, limit triple draw, stud or NL hold em and have all or even a couple of those games running? Or even 2-7 SD NL or Badugi PL, which I've read is as wild as it gets...... more so than PLO. Presently, many players know how to play HE, limit 08 Omaha, PLO....some may know how to play stud, but not many very well..... and almost nobody knows what 2-7 is and......... Badugi may be a "fatty". I usually get a "what's that?" or "how's that played" or "badu-what".

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01-13-2011 , 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Spike Forehand
I would probably not play this.

I am thinking the realistic min buy-in at 6/12 is gonna be $400-$500.
I buy less than that @ usually 20 to 25 big bets or 80.00 to 100 at 2/4, 160 to 200 at 4/8. 200 to 250 @ 5/10 and 250 to 300 at 6/12. When I played 8/16 the only time it ran that I know of, I bought $400.
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01-14-2011 , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by layemdown
I think you guys are both right. This might also help the 8/9 game even at 4/8 and 5/10 level.

I talked to a regular NL player at the freeroll and asked why he didn't play the 9 game. He said he wasn't sure the game played fast enough. With less games in a mix, we might be able to feed the 9 game better with a 5 game.

Once we agree on a good 5 game line up, I'll talk to Anthony and his number two and see if we could put a "4/8, 9" game and a "6/12 5 game" listed as a spead list on their board. Also, I think the first weekend in February might be a good time to test out the 5 game. I'll make a new thread for it if we have the interest from this discussion and come up with a good line up and Anthony agrees to spread it. I like what you guys have here though.

I might mix in the Stud 08 between the NL and PLO1/2 NLHE
1/2 NLHE
6/12 Stud8
6/12 LO8
1/2 PLO
6/12 Badugi

I'm a 2-5 NL player (stopped by and said hi to you guys on 1/8 when you had 5 players). Though I know how to play all the 9 game games, I'd prefer the 5 game format you detailed here (especially with the split games). If I were around this weekend, I'd play for sure. I think you will have better luck getting a few of us to step away from our regular NL routine if you keep the number of games around 5. 9 (or 8) games can be a tough adjustment when you consider that these are varying from what the majority of people play in two factors: the game itself and the structure...just my 2 cents. Good luck with the game!
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01-14-2011 , 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by layemdown
You're not the only one in the Delaware park player pool who is comfortable at the top at 4/8 and stretched to 5/10. Probably me too. That's one reason I'd like both games to be able to be played. I'm an "either or" kind of guy when it comes to hold em and am happy to play 1/2 NL or 4/8. The nine game, therefore, is right up my alley and I really enjoyed Badugi and Triple draw. I'm also comfortable at 6/12, but probably play a bit different (not sure if that's bad or good....probably bad). What I like about the five game, is it's probably not going to take the regular limit guys away from their game nor make limit players want to play NL or PLO, but it may get some of the NL guys interested in limit. At least that's my theory. Ideally, both the five game and nine game would run at the same time.

Do I sound like I've been smoking a fatty? BTW, I don't do that! Don't do drugs!

It's all conceptual now and just a discussion. If people begin to sound interested, I may come out of retirement and become the "game coordinator". It also might be to early to do something like the 5 game. Possibly, the best course of action is to continue to promote the nine game until it sustains itself and runs without coordination. I sure don't want to kill one for the other. But, it would be great if these games ran individually too. How would you like to walk into Delaware Park on a Friday night and be able to choose between limit hold em, limit badugi, limit triple draw, stud or NL hold em and have all or even a couple of those games running? Or even 2-7 SD NL or Badugi PL, which I've read is as wild as it gets...... more so than PLO. Presently, many players know how to play HE, limit 08 Omaha, PLO....some may know how to play stud, but not many very well..... and almost nobody knows what 2-7 is and......... Badugi may be a "fatty". I usually get a "what's that?" or "how's that played" or "badu-what".

I'd love to see a 4/8 or 5/10 Stud hi game go since I feel like that's my best game. Those are impossible to find outside of Vegas and pretty much dead in AC too. The only one I know that regularly runs is the 20/40 at the Borgata. Too bad I don't have the money to play in that one...
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01-14-2011 , 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingSpaghetti
Yes! Actually, here's a 5-game lineup I would love to see:

1/2 NLHE
1/2 PLO
6/12 LO8
6/12 Stud8
6/12 Badugi

"Just when I think I'm out, they pull me back in again."
Interesting line up, I know I could use the work on all of those. Not sure about about this weekend since I plan to be focused on both 4:30pm football games, but I like the ideas for the DP mixed games.
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01-14-2011 , 04:46 AM
Wow, I'm going to spend my morning driving to Grantville, to play in a PLO tournament! With all the cooperation layemdown has received with the mixed games, they still only run Holdem tourneys. Hollywood casino is having a Omaha tournament every Friday morning starting today. Why can't DP try different tournaments early morning and see what happens?
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01-14-2011 , 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by msd550
I'd love to see a 4/8 or 5/10 Stud hi game go since I feel like that's my best game. Those are impossible to find outside of Vegas and pretty much dead in AC too. The only one I know that regularly runs is the 20/40 at the Borgata. Too bad I don't have the money to play in that one...

I've never had a problem getting on a $5-10 or $10-20 7CStud game at the Taj(AC). Typically there'll be two full tables of each on Saturday evenings. Haven't tried the $20-40 but sometimes appears to be lively. As in the woman awhile back asking a non stop chatter box, "Are you going to shut up anytime in the near future?..."
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01-14-2011 , 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by popsflops
Wow, I'm going to spend my morning driving to Grantville, to play in a PLO tournament! With all the cooperation layemdown has received with the mixed games, they still only run Holdem tourneys. Hollywood casino is having a Omaha tournament every Friday morning starting today. Why can't DP try different tournaments early morning and see what happens?
The problem there is most DP patrons...even those that play PLO only, won't much like the 6.00 rake at Hollywood Penn National. I think we're spoiled a bit by the max 4.00 at Delaware Park and especially by the 2.00 max at 4/8 limit. Also, the other promotions like the freeroll are not happening at Hollywood. Do they have any comps/promo's at all yet? Do they have non hold em cash games running there with any regularity? I agree that they should maybe try an Omaha tournament to see how it goes. I know they have one non hold em event each day during their series event in early April.
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01-14-2011 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by layemdown
The problem there is most DP patrons...even those that play PLO only, won't much like the 6.00 rake at Hollywood Penn National. I think we're spoiled a bit by the max 4.00 at Delaware Park and especially by the 2.00 max at 4/8 limit. Also, the other promotions like the freeroll are not happening at Hollywood. Do they have any comps/promo's at all yet? Do they have non hold em cash games running there with any regularity? I agree that they should maybe try an Omaha tournament to see how it goes. I know they have one non hold em event each day during their series event in early April.
Lol would not play cash their! Don't even play in AC any more. DP is where I go, just want tournaments besides holdem
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01-14-2011 , 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Lottery Larry
Hmmm.... A buy-in is about 1/10 of your roll. I'm not sure, even in limit, that you have enough of a buffer there.

But, dropping to $2/4 and doubling the rake isn't a good idea either....


Eh, you have mad skillz, you'll work that BR up. Never mind.
Well, I did say I was trying to exercise good BR management.

Besides - my EV in Spike's Poker Room is pretty good, only problem being it's only a monthly game and I mistakenly keep inviting good players .
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01-14-2011 , 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by layemdown
The problem there is most DP patrons...even those that play PLO only, won't much like the 6.00 rake at Hollywood Penn National. I think we're spoiled a bit by the max 4.00 at Delaware Park and especially by the 2.00 max at 4/8 limit. Also, the other promotions like the freeroll are not happening at Hollywood. Do they have any comps/promo's at all yet? Do they have non hold em cash games running there with any regularity? I agree that they should maybe try an Omaha tournament to see how it goes. I know they have one non hold em event each day during their series event in early April.
PLO is a time game at Ctown, not rake. So is 2-5 and 1-2 and 5-10. The only one I consider to be a high time charge is 1-2, but from what I hear, the action makes up for it (I play 2-5 there typically).

The have 5-10 Omaha8 there, but I don't know how regularly it runs (I've seen it most weekends I'm there). Of course, Delaware Park seems to have better promos for the players, I would agree with that. But in my experience, the NL games at Ctown are better. And it's 70 minutes from house instead of 2 hrs plus. Obviously, if I lived where you did, I'd be at Del. Park daily.

Jeff
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