JP - Hi. I've played 4/8 LHE with you a few times. When that 4/8 LHE game stopped running, I was just about to quit coming to DP at all, and then I decided to try this 4/8 Omaha game that seemed to be replacing LHE, and just like you, I am now addicted to Omaha. The hands are just so much more interesting than hold'em - you have 4 cards instead of 2 and there is both a high and a low to try for. It really is a great game. It seems to run every Fri/Sat and some Sundays, and if there is enough interest during the week, it starts them sometimes too but during weekdays it really depends on who is there and their level of interest.

You can actually play limit Omaha H/L on Pokerstars for free, if you want to practice. Since it is free, the play is pretty bad ... but sometimes it isn't too different from what you see at the DP tables! :-) If you want to try playing on-line for real money (I'm waiting to get my Full Tilt money back before I deposit for real again), I think they might spread that game on the Merge network (Carbon poker is one of the skins to get to Merge) ... although now that I look, I don't see any limit Omaha hi/lo games running at the moment.

I think DP ran a 10/20 LHE game (or maybe it was 8/16?) maybe two or times times in the summer of 2011, soon after it opened. It hasn't run since. If you can get a few guys to show up, DP management would almost certainly post an interest list and run the game if they get close to a full table. I'm just not sure where the players would come from - I doubt any of the 2/4 LHE players would jump up to 10/20.

The rake would be 10% up to $4, with $1 dropped for the bad beat.

I drop a lot of money there on table games and parlay tickets and spend many hours in the poker room. I would be willing to boycott the casino and take my action elsewhere due to an employee getting fired for making what was a correct business decision in a time of uncertainty. However, only one person boycotting would not have any affect on the casino or poker room operations.

The regular players could all speak to the poker room manager about it, but I have a feeling that would be pretty pointless because I believe no manager/supervisor is going to step up and go to bat for a now fired employee while they themselves are trying to go from an acting to a permanent status.

Anyone interested in a 10/20 or even higher Omaha HL game? Will Dp allow us to play 6 handed?

According to my records I played a DP $10-20 LHE game in June 2010, but haven't seen anything close since. Was one of two lonely names on a $10-20 HORSE list recently. Sad O8 is only limit game thriving at DP along with the pesky $2-4.

if he did get fired (id like confirmation) we can all bombard the twitter and faceboook pages

On at least a couple of the last few Saturdays, there were some players who wanted to play 10/20 O/8, but I think in negotiations with the other players they needed to get enough to start a table, they settled on 8/16. Then I heard (so this is rumor, not confirmed) that for some reason (maybe involving the state gaming board), DP couldn't spread 8/16 specifically (10/20 may have been OK), so it ended up going off as 6/12, and the 6/12 game did not have a kill (possibly for the same reason). I was at the 4/8 O/8 game, so I heard this second hand, but the 6/12 did run and was full and several players there did want to play higher, but something weird occurred that prevented that from happening. You'd have to ask the players and the floor, but DP might run a 10/20 game, maybe even 6 handed. I think it is possible.

I'm leaving Thursday to go out of the country for a couple of weeks, so I won't be able to join you.

If you think you have interest, I can be persuaded if I'm allowed out on Friday night

hey lay you may get some parx high limt players because ther allmad at parx for takimg ther comps away lot of thoes players are fed up with this could be good for dp.

The $6-12 O8 a couple weeks back was a nice game and I actually learned a few things besides having a great time. Personally I prefer limit games to trying to figure if my middle set is up against top set, two pair, or a flush draw in a NL game.

As a regular of DP, coming from MD. I will say that the room is usually run pretty well. I think there are many factors at play as the reason the room has seen its issues lately. With the exception of 12/26 I still think the room is one of the better rooms in the area. I am one of the grinders that do care about rake. It affects my bottom line and as a math person I understand the implications of another $1 per hand at 10%. However it wouldn't affect my decision to play there at 10% up to $5 if it came to that. The only thing that would affect my decision is if MD opened up poker. MD poker rooms would have to be pretty awful for me to still be a regular at DP. That is only because its about $35 to $40 dollars round trip with gas and tolls. Thats $200 a week at 5 days. Pretty hard to overcome yet somehow I am still in the green. But thats also an extra 700 a month I could save playing local.

That being said I dont know who "B" is maybe layem can pm me and tell me but If he lost his job due to doing what is right for the customers that is a travesty. I have also known some players get kicked out for actions I didnt think was worthy of a ban from the room. I know they are trying to keep the room friendly and safe but I think they take some things too far.

I talk to K1 regularly but not in too much depth. He seems like a stand up guy and I think he does everything in his power to make the room the best room he can. I'm not sure they have given him the freedom to do all the things he feels are appropriate to move the room forward. Yet he is always very gracious and as accomadating as he can be.

I think the tournament room turned cash room was a good idea however I think they are wasting space with the old cash room as its only used on the weekends. I'm not sure of a remedy for this but im sure the casino upper management looks at this as wasted space and money. Possibly they could use fold up tables such as the ones used in big tournaments in AC and a banquet room for the weekends. Yet I'm not sure such a space is available.

I do have relationships with the dealers and the floor and players. Everyone knows me and there is a connection there with the people I see almost daily. This makes this room like a second home for me and I feel very comfortable there. I am passionate about things I care about and poker is one of them. I hope DP moves forward in a positive light, and aside from being 111 on the waiting list on 12/26 I am mostly pleased with the room.

Lastly, as I read this forum I notice there are a couple of passionate people that also care about this room. I don't know what your schedules are like or if this idea would even work but I'll just throw it out there. How would you guys feel about meeting once a month or so and go over some things that could improve the room. Then we can take that to K1 and present it in a way that might give some player feedback in a positive light.

thinking about playing in the saturday noon for 340.00.how many runners should they get.

I'd guess about 110 @ about 30 to 35K prize pool.

Haven't been up there in about a month. I was thinking of going up after Reserves for the 7pm tournament on Saturday. What the hell is happening up there? I've been taking some trips up North so Foxwoods has seen a lot of my action lately. The trips further underscored to me that DP is the best all around place to play poker that I've been to in my almost two years of playing the game. I hope this place doesn't go to the birds.

There has been alot of perceived negative talk about DP. They set a high standard for themselves and any deviation from that is noticed, thus talked about. These issues people brought up need to be addressed, however this is still one of the best rooms in the area. We just have come to expect alot from them.

might be more, back in November there were 280 for the $340.00 tourney

December was low, around 120, because of competition from Harrah's A.C. WSOP circuit event

I agree, and in no way was I criticizing anyone for bringing up these issues. Did they up the rake tho?

no 4+1 still

The DP tourney and cash game products are highly competitive on a cost/rake/chip count/innovation basis. The managers/dealers/environment are friendly and they strive to be distinctive. All positive points. Like any business, there are glitches, especially when one deals with a highly regulated/monitored market. Their commitment to operate 24/7 is also positive yet brings in strains and stresses in the long term to that team.

The players who like DP and take the time to read/contribute to this string are aiming to bring points to management that could be improved and to voice any problems we see and experience. The 12/26 episode is such a glitch - but one that resulted in the casino taking a hit from the Lottery and the individual a managerial sanction (so we hear). The learnings from that glitch are what matters to improve operations and to make the place even more compelling for local pokerati. It is really too bad that B took a hit - really unfortunate the Lottery would want to impose a fine on the day after Christmas - but that's not their concern - they lay the rap on management, who in turn should have set the re-opening hours on 12/26 and all the key elements that go with that - staff, cage, communications. The ball was dropped and the sequence of events was not good.

I'm a big fan of the DP product - just want to be a straightshooter so that tangible steps are taken. We all want DP to be distinctive and a great base for our poker hobby. They can do it - if they took notice of our commentary and act on the good suggestions.

As for a group of us that can meet up at DP periodically - think that would be a good idea. Just a logistical challenge for some of us as I have a long drive from MD and get there in time a few minutes ahead of a tourney start. I'm sure several of you get in there and out at various times. For my part I'm willing to let folks know when I'm in the house and we can grab a coffee off or get a pizza slice downstairs.

All the best for 2012 for the DP pokertariat.

"B" was working today. I joked with him a little about the situation the day after Xmas. He seemed to be his old self. Wouldn't be surprised if he was just using vacation before the end of the year.

Thanks for the update on B and good to know he's back in action and in better spirits.

Hey everyone... I don't think I've posted in this thread yet, but I'm becoming more of a reg at DP and am wondering if anyone else has been noticing marked cards lately?

Today after sitting down, I noticed two lines across one of my cards in a red deck. You couldn't really see them unless the light hit them a certain way, and it reflected differently. I checked what it was and it was the 2s.

A few minutes later, I got another one in the red deck and it was the 8s. Then the 10s. The whole time, none in the blue deck were coming up that way (at least that I was dealt).

I decided if I got one more of the same suit, I was going to call the floor. I was hoping it was just random marks from the card shuffler, and it looked like an extensive mark for a cheat to make.

The next hand, I got a marked 9s. I folded and asked the dealer to call the floor and said I'd explain when he got there, that it had nothing to do with this hand. I pulled the floor away from the table and told him what I had seen and that since they were all four the same suit, it seemed like more than a coincidence.

He just pulled the deck out of play and replaced it with a, presumably, new one. I was hoping he would go through it and check each card and maybe come thank me or let me know what he found, so I would know what was up, but that wasn't the case.

On the first hand with the new red deck, I saw the same thing with the 3c. Later I saw it with the 8c and decided one more club in that deck and I was going to tell them they had an issue with their card supplier printing bad cards. However, the next two I saw were a 2s and a 4d. I also later noticed a blue card with the same type of mark...

I decided to let it go at this point since it seemed random and I didn't want to ruin the table mood, plus I was losing my focus on the game by meticulously inspecting every card.

So I'm thinking now it is either flaws in the printing of the cards or the auto shufflers leaving slight indentations or stripping off some of the gloss and thus making them catch the light differently.

Maybe the four non-paint spades were just a big coincidence? I've never heard of marking a suit as a big strategy, as opposed to say marking Aces/paint, but it seemed odd enough that I wanted to point it out.

Anyone notice anything like this lately at DP?

tl;dr: I noticed four marked non-paint spades, had a deck changed, immediately saw some then random marked cards. Perhaps it's a shuffler issue or a printing flaw... Anyone noticed anything?

Either way, everyone stay vigilant. If you let your cards catch the light and move your head back and forth a bit to get different angles, that's the way to notice.

Yeah, I saw "B" too. He did seem to be in good spirits! It's tough to think that guy even could be in a bad mood. It was a blast watching him give those free seats away! He definitely makes it fun whether you win one or not. It was the first time I've met him, and I can see why so many of you on here were so upset that anything would have happened to such a great guy. I tried not to give him the third degree about the whole situation, and I could tell he was trying to be as politically correct as possible with anything he said [which wasn't much but could you blame him]. But from our conversation, I didnt get the impression that he was just 'on vacation', but that it was a forced leave. And I don't believe that something like that would be paid time off, which would be very disappointing for him to go a full week without because of this. I wish that I could really confirm all of this, but like I said, I think he's too much of a 'stand up guy' to throw any of his management under the bus, I think he really loves his job too much. And as far as the rumors surrounding the consequences of the casino, from what I heard from my fellow players, who may or may not be on this thread, I also don't believe that the lottery is at any fault, that the games were sanctioned and no penalty took place. Again, I wish I had further confirmation of this, but neither "B" nor any other employee would comment on this. I think I may still follow up with a phone call to the lottery to see what, if anything, is public information. Does anyone know if it is?

Anyway, I just wanted to put it out there that I am glad to see him back, and I wish I could have more interactions with floor supervisors like him. On first impression, he's one of the best in the area! No matter what my opinion was when I first heard of this situation or what my opinion is now of the management team, because of "B" I will still be coming back to DP every couple weeks, whenever I visit my parents. I will just be making my trips a little later in the evening/morning.

Thanks "B"! And thanks to my fellow players for making me feel welcome both in the room, and on this board! GL all!

After a nice long vacation, I am back and ready to go... to all my PLO degenerates, i'll see you tomorrow so bring your purses...

Also to FJ who i saw at jury duty yesterday, we both lucked out because it was gonna be a long murder trial, but the dude plead guilty....

Just talking about you today. Where've you been? Fleecing non suspecting PLO players of their hard earned money at an out of the area casino I assume.

Chooped up the Borgata 100 plus 20 today, then stopped by DP for the evening 1K added and was brought back to reality when my black aces were cracked by AK hearts and flopped flush. Money in pre flop and home early.