I'll get the scoop. Not many rooms managed any better in the business.

I called over. 132 today, which is about high side average for a Sunday

A few things. I talked to the room management about the small discrepancy in payout's at the bracket and in the daily's. All the tournament flyers in the room DO say that there is 5% that is withheld for staff bonus. I will say this about these guys. They have never done any deceptive advertising and they were concerned that a few guys on this site thought something like this. Their personal integrity and the reputation of the room are very important to them and they go to some lengths to make sure that players understand the costs and allocation of our money. Take a look at Harrah's daily where level three is 200/400 and level four is 300/600. I'm not positive of this, but I believe there is a staff bonus hold out at the Borgata too of 5%. At least at their last 500K event where there was similar two plus two discusssions.

They are going to try to open up registration for the classic this Friday, March 25, 2011. They didn't make any promises, but that's the goal. They are also trying to work with a "poker ticket" site for on line registration. Because there's a lot to do to make that happen, they're not sure they can arrange it prior to the classic, but they are going to try. They understand that it's a good idea to make that happen and will do what they can to get there.

There seems to be a problem on weekends calling the 1/2 PLO game, especially on Friday nights. I talked to a couple of guys who play that game regularly and they were upset that they had a list Friday and the game was not called. I'm going to send an email to number two, because that game will run short and fill up, as long as it's spread in the cash room. Some guys are not big fans of NL Texas Holdem and much prefer that game, choosing to not play at all if they can't get a PLO game off.

Most places wouldn't take a % for staff bonus, when the tournament buy-in structure lists part of the entry fee going to a staff bonus. I can not speak for the daily's, I don't play them. Only the bracket challenge. A copy of the sheet for the bracket challenge can be seen here:
http://www.delawarepark.com/pdf/Poke...t-Venetian.pdf

Similar to their April classic sheets online, the buy in is broken down with an entry fee and a staff bonus. Nowhere does it state there is a % to be taken in addition to that payment.

I know $6 sounds like a little but here is how it affected the payout:

Our 12 way chop paid $3084 with the prize pool as it was.
A 12 way chop would pay $3333 if the total prize pool was the correct amount. A difference of $249 per person. Pretty big difference for a $150 buy in event.

I undertand why you're complaining.... I really do. The Venetian package was not a part of the payout, but I was told that the free seat to the classic main event $1070 was taken out of the total 40K tournament over all pay out since it was part the potential winnings. None of the free seats given to the celebrities or radio station came out of that money, but was paid directly by the room.

I did look at the Saturday $125.00 payout write up sheet and it does have the statement about the staff bonus, which explains the 119.00 which goes to the payout.

I really do understand what you're saying here as it directly affected your cut nor am i trying to minimize your complaint. But, since this thing also gave away another 8K vegas package, it was still an overlay for the room and a value just based on that fact. You said you knew that the Vegas money was not coming out of the prize pool, but I seriously didn't. I assumed it would be a part of the buy in/payout pool.

Again, I believe that you won't find more ethical managers at any room and I trust them 100%. With that said, I'm relatively certain there won't be another payout sheet that doesn't spell it out.

37K chopped
1070 Classic Seat
8 K Vegas package (or more like 8500 to 9K)
2700 in radio/Celebrity free seats

48,700 cost. 48,000 taken in @ 150.00 X 320. No profit for the room on this one to pay salaries, dealer bonus. No other room would do that.

We get to play (with luck) a long time before making the money. In a cash game one would easily have tossed the dealer that much money over the course of the same playing time. I prefer the way the house rakes the pot for the dealers otherwise I would be pressed to tip them myself. Since most people don't think like I do - I'm glad they cut the pot for the staff - the dealers do a good job and why shouldn't they get what they'd get if they were dealing at a cash table? A good dealer would never want to deal tournaments if they didn't get paid. Would you? Dealers deserve the tote.
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I will say, at the end of each tournament, they do present a tip jar for the dealers as well. So it's not like they take out the extra 5% in lieu of asking people to tip.

Thats why in the buy-in they took a dollar amount out for the dealers. Thats not my arguement what-so-ever. Its that they double-dipped when not advertising doing so. And yes, at the end they had the tip jar for dealers, and I tipped them accordingly. I also tipped some dealers along the way if I felt they deserved it. When I pay for a dealer and staff fee upfront, tip along the way, then see that they took an extra % w/o warning, I felt a little unsettled is all.

1. I want to reiterate, I am in no way speaking of their daily tourny's, only this specific one as its the only I've played.

2. All those added bonus's are what kept players in the casino for extra hours. There were people who hung around for nearly 8 hours to see if they got called for the Vegas package. This increased the casino's revenue in terms of cash games, slots, etc.

3. Your breakdown from above includes items that they advertised as added to the prize pool. They chose to do a promo, and it looked like it worked to increase gaming action.

4. I still love the room and the staff is amazing. Just wish them to be careful and advertise correctly. When you go from paying a 16.67% to 20.67% entry vig unexpectedly, it doesn't sit well is all.

I'd love to see a 1/2 PLO spread all weekend. Therer are a number of time I walked out after a tourney but would have stayed if they spread that game. Thanks for pushing this.

Thanks for looking into this layem!

there were like 6 celebrities so i dont get the 2700 in celeb seats thing

There were eight celebrities, plus the room provided the radio station with free seats for callers. I realize that it's DP's responsibility to do that and pay for it. Advertising, after all, is expensive and a cost of doing business. I basically just added it because those seats were paid for by the room.

ok ty

Damn. looks like I missed it again. Played yesterday afternoon and the bad beat was 116,000. Must have been hit last night since it's under 50K and up to quad jacks beaten. I wonder what the room share was. Anyone there when it hit?

Hit ~6am when quad Q lost to a straight flush. Room share was ~1300 and change. Wasn't there but heard about it as I came in at 8 and sat in the "loser" of the hands seat. As of 11:30 his win (50kish) hadn't been paid out yet as his license was expired and he had to get a new one. In Virginia.

Forgot to mention, table was 1/2NL. Dunno who was dealing.

Kind of funny, but not to him.

Bet he's looking all over for some sort of unexpired ID. Too bad he has to travel all the way to Virginia to get his passport. Ahh well, nothing wrong with a trip back and forth if he knows 50K is waiting on the other side.

$1300 is a nice room cut too. I'd guess three tables in the room when it hit.

There were 4 when I came in. Three 1/2 and a 2/5. Figured something was up when I walked into that many tables running at 8 am.

virginia?

loser is from PA

Well, I was in the room for the first time in a month last night. It's going to be tough to get 40 hours when you're starting on the 23rd, but I have a hall pass for this weekend, so I may be able to put some long hours in.

Anyway, last night I believe that they made an announcement that the freeroll would be on the first Tuesday in April at 4p. I figure that we need to post that info here, if true. Can anyone confirm that I heard it right?

Is true. Not sure why, but assume it has something to do with the classic. But, I'm not getting forty this month. I'm away all of next week Sunday to Friday night. Been traveling too much and don't see a light at the end of the work tunnel. Been on a cooler so quitting my day job in favor of poker doesn't seem smart.

It is on the Poker Classic schedule: http://www.delawarepark.com/pdf/pokerclassic_11.pdf

Can you get chips with a personal check there?

yes at financial services im pretty sure you can with an additional charge

I plan to go over sometime today and find out of registration for the "classic" series has opened up. I'll post the answer when I return.