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Old 02-27-2011, 01:18 PM   #2626
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Red chips in low-limit games is the absolutely worst, crappiest, *********, epidemic I've seen since playing regularly again on the east coast.

That people insist having stacks of red in a 4-8 game baffles my mind. It slows the game down.

Especially tilting is this one super-nit at the 4-8 over at Harrah's Chester (where I've been playing a bit lately due to the BBJ) who insists on trying to make the game 5-10 because "using red chips is easier". I almost wanted to get into it with him one night when he cried about the dealer having to make change for everyone's red chips when I told him "You know, if you played with the white chips like you should be doing, the dealers wouldn't have this damn problem."
Yeah, this has been done to death on these boards and much has been written on the subject. But the bottom line is that only white chips should be used in 2-4, 3-6 and 4-8 games. Only red chips should be used in 10-20, 15-30 and 20-40 games. The games run smoother (and don't become change making competitions), the pots are visually larger (making people more likely to chase and observers more likely to sit down) and it is simply fun to stack a huge pot. Those who worry about their stack taking up too much space are probably going to give little to no action anyway, and are far from ideal opponents.

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Old 02-27-2011, 01:21 PM   #2627
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I don't see the problem with red chips in the 4/8 games. Using only smaller chips (yellow or white) just means that your stack takes up more space.
Most players who sit at 4/8 want to sit with reds. I've seen the runner get a hundred, come back with a tray of whites and be sent back to the cage for 20 reds. You'd be surprised at the amount of change the dealer has to make to keep the game moving.....guy calls a 4.00 bet with a red..... or 8.00 bet with 2 reds. Additionally, with rake and BBJ drop, the trays fill with red and fills are required. I believe the game will move much better as a yellow chip game. Just IMO.

2/4 plays as a white chip game and is probably the fastest moving game in the house because of the lack of change making at all.
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Old 02-27-2011, 01:26 PM   #2628
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Red chips in low-limit games is the absolutely worst, crappiest, *********, epidemic I've seen since playing regularly again on the east coast.

That people insist having stacks of red in a 4-8 game baffles my mind. It slows the game down.

Especially tilting is this one super-nit at the 4-8 over at Harrah's Chester (where I've been playing a bit lately due to the BBJ) who insists on trying to make the game 5-10 because "using red chips is easier". I almost wanted to get into it with him one night when he cried about the dealer having to make change for everyone's red chips when I told him "You know, if you played with the white chips like you should be doing, the dealers wouldn't have this damn problem."
I've played with that guy... he'll toss 2 red chips on the turn even when he has a stack of white in front of him. It makes no sense.

Last time: I would prefer all white at 4/8 also. But the rooms around here are unwilling to take the damned red chips off in order to make that happen. 100% yellow is a really good compromise.
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Old 02-27-2011, 01:32 PM   #2629
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Wow...am I glad I don't play fixed limit games. People actually insist on playing with $5 chips in 4/8 games? I was kind of considering the 4/8 PLO8 @ DP, but if you've got jackasses like that in the game, no thank you.
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Old 02-27-2011, 02:08 PM   #2630
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Wow...am I glad I don't play fixed limit games. People actually insist on playing with $5 chips in 4/8 games? I was kind of considering the 4/8 PLO8 @ DP, but if you've got jackasses like that in the game, no thank you.
Sorry I prefer reds (over whites), but yellows have never been an option whenever I've played there. I don't think that should be a reason to choose one poker room over another though. Also note that the other poster mentioned the old nit was at Chester and not DP.
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Old 02-28-2011, 02:01 AM   #2631
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It'll kill jumping from $4-8 to $1-2 games or other way around. I'm not going to stand in line for chips four times vice twice. I'll call it a night. People playing just $1 in a $4-8 slow the game down since they take forever to count out $8, $16, or whatever.
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Old 02-28-2011, 07:38 AM   #2632
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Did the 4/8 become a kill game when I wasn't looking?

Also, yeah, last week's 4/8 had exactly one flop with 6 players. Most had 3, with many 4. I actually chopped a blind once. wtf?
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:33 AM   #2633
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It'll kill jumping from $4-8 to $1-2 games or other way around. I'm not going to stand in line for chips four times vice twice. I'll call it a night. People playing just $1 in a $4-8 slow the game down since they take forever to count out $8, $16, or whatever.
Seriously? Having a chip runner color your stack is too much? You, of all people, after driving up from NOVA, are gonna let that particular straw break your back?

I give up. 2+2, please stay away from 4/8 LHE at DP. Terrible game.

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Did the 4/8 become a kill game when I wasn't looking?

Also, yeah, last week's 4/8 had exactly one flop with 6 players. Most had 3, with many 4. I actually chopped a blind once. wtf?
My bad, I figured you were there last Sat when there was indeed a 1/2 kill. I've rarely seen the game you describe at DP. But still... chopping a blind once in a session is miles from the tightest game I've ever played. Try the 4/8 (sometimes 5/10) up in Chester... that is an absolute rock garden.
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:39 AM   #2634
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Wow...am I glad I don't play fixed limit games. People actually insist on playing with $5 chips in 4/8 games? I was kind of considering the 4/8 PLO8 @ DP, but if you've got jackasses like that in the game, no thank you.
Maybe it's just a typo on your part... but I don't think Pot Limit O8 has ever gone at DP. The 4/8 O8 game that is regular on the weekends has always been fixed limit. That is also played with yellow chips now.
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Old 02-28-2011, 10:51 AM   #2635
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Maybe it's just a typo on your part... but I don't think Pot Limit O8 has ever gone at DP. The 4/8 O8 game that is regular on the weekends has always been fixed limit. That is also played with yellow chips now.
I noticed that too. I'm sure he means 4/8 08 limit. Not PL. Can you imagine the size of a 4/8 PLO 08 game at any room? That game would play beyond huge. I know a few guys who would like it, but it's too big to get me to play.
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Old 02-28-2011, 10:56 AM   #2636
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I am heading up for the first time in a couple of hours. Is there a decent likelihood that there will be anything else running besides 1/2 and 2/5? If so, what? Thanks in advance
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Old 02-28-2011, 10:57 AM   #2637
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Did the 4/8 become a kill game when I wasn't looking?

Also, yeah, last week's 4/8 had exactly one flop with 6 players. Most had 3, with many 4. I actually chopped a blind once. wtf?
It's often played with a half kill. So is the 4/8 08 game. Only requires all the players to agree and a kill button. $40.00 scoop.
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:01 AM   #2638
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Hi Layem,

I played at DP from Noon to 1:00 AM yesterday. Missed you again.

Played in three tournaments, 0/3, so, not a good day at Tourny's.

However, my Cash Game was on the money. Played 1/2, it paid for my three tourny's and the registration for the bracket challenge. So, I am in it for the March 16th event.

In the end I think I was down by 80/90 bucks. I will take that knowing my tourny registrations were accounting for $365.

I saw the coverall board, it looks nice, can't wait for the move to happen.

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Old 02-28-2011, 11:02 AM   #2639
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I am heading up for the first time in a couple of hours. Is there a decent likelihood that there will be anything else running besides 1/2 and 2/5? If so, what? Thanks in advance
On a Monday at noon, it's doubtful unless you want to play 2/4.
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:05 AM   #2640
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On a Monday at noon, it's doubtful unless you want to play 2/4.
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:35 PM   #2641
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I'm an old AC nit. 4/8 was always played with red and white. I've never noticed an issue with change making, a good dealer can toss a chip or two quicker than a player can count out 8 chips and move them forward. That being said, the switch to strictly yellows is a fantastic improvement! I've only played with $2 chips at Foxwoods and the game moves much faster. Hopefully this will help to kick start the 4/8 games. I still hate the hit and miss trips to DP! (No game, short game or 1 table where nobody leaves for hours!) Finally, I apologize to all the players I've offended in the past with my 2 stacks of reds!
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:53 PM   #2642
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A couple of things.

The coverall Board is up now in the tournament room, but is not in play until the move. The move has been pushed back a little, with it not happening until at least after the "Bracket Challenge" which will be March 16. The "Coverall Board" is located near the cage in the present tournament room on the wall. Looks good and well made wood (expensive) so I believe the coverall promotion is planned to be an ongoing thing.

As of today, there are about 25 people already registered for the "bracket challenge" for March 16. I'll probably go over Monday or Tuesday and get mine just so I know I have it. I already scheduled something that is irreversible with work so that I have all of Tuesday night 3/16 and Weds 3/17. My plan is to pull an all night-er. I've had conflicting answers about wild cards. Today I was told that if you bust in round one, and you are still there in round two, three and four that your name is eligible to move on. Therefore. bust in round one and play in round four. I thought the raffle drum would have only the names of players who busted in the previous rounds. I'll look for clarification on that one.
I was looking for some answers on the Bracket Challenge Friday night...

-In regards to the Wild Card, I was told that if you bust out, then you're pulled as a wild card entry into another round, your name is removed from the barrel and you are no longer eligible to be a wild card entry in future rounds (I asked because on paper, it appears that you could conceivably lose every table you play in, but still make it to the finals through wild card entries).

-Everyone playing in the BC (320 players) will have an entry to the Venetian DSE raffle.

-At about 3am Friday night, I was entrant 14 to the BC, but was told there were only 140 open seats. They couldn't tell me whether the other 180 seats were being held for "celebs" or sats, or whether those seats were actually locked up.

There still seems to be a little confusion amongst the floor to these rules, but again, should be a good time and I think it will fill up.
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Old 02-28-2011, 01:02 PM   #2643
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I was looking for some answers on the Bracket Challenge Friday night...

-In regards to the Wild Card, I was told that if you bust out, then you're pulled as a wild card entry into another round, your name is removed from the barrel and you are no longer eligible to be a wild card entry in future rounds (I asked because on paper, it appears that you could conceivably lose every table you play in, but still make it to the finals through wild card entries).

-Everyone playing in the BC (320 players) will have an entry to the Venetian DSE raffle.

-At about 3am Friday night, I was entrant 14 to the BC, but was told there were only 140 open seats. They couldn't tell me whether the other 180 seats were being held for "celebs" or sats, or whether those seats were actually locked up.

There still seems to be a little confusion amongst the floor to these rules, but again, should be a good time and I think it will fill up.
I'll be traveling this week, but may get some time to go over today. I'll try to see Anthony or number two to get clarification on your points.
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Old 02-28-2011, 01:21 PM   #2644
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I was looking for some answers on the Bracket Challenge Friday night...

-In regards to the Wild Card, I was told that if you bust out, then you're pulled as a wild card entry into another round, your name is removed from the barrel and you are no longer eligible to be a wild card entry in future rounds (I asked because on paper, it appears that you could conceivably lose every table you play in, but still make it to the finals through wild card entries).

-Everyone playing in the BC (320 players) will have an entry to the Venetian DSE raffle.

-At about 3am Friday night, I was entrant 14 to the BC, but was told there were only 140 open seats. They couldn't tell me whether the other 180 seats were being held for "celebs" or sats, or whether those seats were actually locked up.

There still seems to be a little confusion amongst the floor to these rules, but again, should be a good time and I think it will fill up.
I called over and spoke to Number two. Here's the deal.

They've held back some seats for pre registration and therefore, have only 140 available now. This is because of seat assignments and keeping tables balanced. They will release more seats as they need to. They will hold back 22 seats for Radio and celebrity assignments.

Here's the "Real Deal" on the wild card (unless I'm a compete idiot which is always up for debate). Theoretically, you could bust first in round one. Miss the wild card in round 2 and 3, but since your name is still in the raffle drum, win a seat into round four. Beat 3 of the 6 in the fourth round and move to round five which is the money round. IT IS NOT A RAFFLE for only those busting in the previous rounds, but you do have to be present to get the seat. You've got one minute to claim it.

Here's the last piece. The six table final table for the "Venetian Deep Stack" package of entry, hotel and air fare, plus spending money tournament will be selected from all the entrees after the tournament is complete and will play immediately following the final table in the tournament. That's good for some guys and bad for others. 320 players are not going to hang around until 4 AM to see if they win a seat at that table, so the odds are greatly improved for those willing to (and with a good BR for cash) to hang in there until late...... very late as that table should start to play at about 4 AM.

I will go over today or tomorrow morning on my way to Cincinatti and get mine locked up.
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Old 03-01-2011, 10:52 PM   #2645
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DP is pulling out all of the stops for their spring poker series. They put in a full page advertisement in the print version of the latest issue of Bluff magazine.
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:10 PM   #2646
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I'll be up playing no limit tomorrow night, anyone going? As for the chip argument....uhm, it's limit, who cares, lol. J/k thats where I started years ago, but I just cant get excited for it anymore, its a huge ugly grind. It is where I recommend new players start though
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Old 03-02-2011, 02:00 AM   #2647
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The 4/8 game switching to all yellow is great imo but think they should allow mints (4$chips) as well. Is anyone on the text message list? The guy working floor told me he'd put me on it but never came back to my table to get my info.
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Old 03-02-2011, 08:42 AM   #2648
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Short TR for Wheeling Island that I posted @ http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...5/index22.html

Visiting this room, makes me appreciate all the rooms we have available in our area.
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:09 AM   #2649
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The 4/8 game switching to all yellow is great imo but think they should allow mints (4$chips) as well. Is anyone on the text message list? The guy working floor told me he'd put me on it but never came back to my table to get my info.
I haven't played it since it switched over. Hopefully I'll be there this weekend. I think having both mints and canaries is a bit excessive. I'd rather have one or the other. The fact that they're making it a $2 chip game at all is finally showing that DP can use their brains.

Just kidding. You guys are doing great.


P.S. I also am not on the list, but would like to be on it. I vaguely remember Bob coming over and asking us if we wanted to be on it but then didn't return with the sheet.
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:46 AM   #2650
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Anyone know if there are still spots open for the March 16th tournament?
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