I just like the idea of having the Epoker tables for Omaha as playing it B&M style makes it so slow.

Very true I would play it every now and then if there would be enough people to get a game going. I'm still surprised at how little traffic this poker room seems to get. The electronic tables aren't anywhere near as bad as a lot of people think they are.

Is there any times where the room is busy?

I stopped by Saturday evening hoping to play and they couldn't even fill a table. I didn't waste my time lol

I was visiting alot last winter/spring. Right after Black Friday, it had really picked up. Even after that initial surge, there was at least 2-3 tables most nights. My schedule got tight going into the summer though so I spent a few months away. Now we're back to the cold months but it appears dead the few times I've stopped by


I have some free time tomorrow night for the Wednesday tourney. Hopefully it's still getting a decent turnout...

Well, for those interested, the Wednesday tourney got 46 players. Same as two weeks ago when I was there.

Top 7 paid. 1st gets around $1k, then it trickles down to 7th which basically just gets their money back



If anyone has any info on what kind of turnouts the room gets for the other tourneys, please share. It's a bit of a drive for me so I don't want to waste money to visit a dead room. But at the same time, I need to cleanse my mind of my horrible play down the stretch tonight and it's the closest option I have(not to mention I'm one of the rarities that actually loves the PokerPro Tables)

Saturdays are normally the busiest night sometimes the crown doesn't show up until 9:00 or so. Friday's and Wednesday are normally pretty good to but there usually isn't more than 2 tables going. Most evenings there is one main table and a feeder table that probably averages between 5-8 players sometimes there is 2 full tables during other weekdays it can be really hit and miss.

Lets schedule a PLO game

What games do they usually run during weeknights?

Is this a smoke-free room?

I overheard that they allow cell phone use at the table and that some players might use this for collusion. Is this true?

Are the screens protected or do you have to cover your cards?

Do players still converse at the table or is it more like online play?

Players converse at the tables quite a bit.

Thanks man! How deep are people on a typical weeknight evening?

Average seems to be around 125bb feeder and 200bb+ main but it really varies. One night I end up playing 3 handed from 10pm-3:30am and another there was over 11k in play at the main 1-2 table on a tuesday.

Saw Jean-Ralphio Playing here again the other day this week, he didn't really do much of anything.

Anyone know where he's been the last 3 months or so? He's been MIA

goes to school in whitewater

place is ok... not a great place to make money in 1-2 because there is a steady crew of young uns who vaguely know what they are doing... the machines are ok - get more hands per hour...

There are players at the table who vaguely know what they are doing and it's hard to make money?????

A few factors make it tough to make a ton at these tables.

1. Rake is high. 10% up to $5. That alone is fairly standard but they take on the quarter (ie. a 23 pot gets 2.25 taken) so it adds up pretty fast.

2. Many fish/rec players are skeptical of the machines. Even the ones that aren't skeptical just flat out prefer "real" live poker.

3. It's the only public place in the area for people 18-20 to play which attracts some decent young players. It attracts some bad young players too but since they don't have as much money they stick to the lower buy in donkaments they have there.

4. Partly due to factors 2&3, there is just a higher ratio of winning/break even (mostly break even) players to losing players than your average 1/2nl live game. There are a few really good regs too (for example the guy everyone knows as Captain Zeebo plays in the game probably 5 days a week or more). And since there are no bigger games spread they are playing 1/2.

So at a 10 handed table, from my experience (about 500 hours), you are going to have yourself, probably 1 other decent reg, 2-3 break evenish players and 2-3 marginal losers, and maybe 1-2 fish. The rake just makes that game tough to beat for much. I played it all last summer and by my estimation its much tougher than your average 1/2nl game. Doesn't mean it can't be beat (I did, not by much but I did), just means its probably not the best choice if you have other options.

Cushlash nailed it. In total I'd say there are about 10 really good regs that play there, and it's very tough to get a table that doesn't include one of them.

I'll be up there next week. Are there other options? I saw someone mentioned Baraboo, and an ask about home games.

There is Ho Chunk in Baraboo which normally has 2 $1/$2 NLHE games going and I think a $2/$4 limit on weekdays and some more on the weekends. I'm more familiar with DeJope but both places can have some good tables it can be fairly hit or miss though. If you play a game other than $1/$2 NLHE and depending on how far you are willing to travel Potawatomi in Milwaukee is probably your best option.

TY!

played there all this week and the regs are terrible no idea what all this tough to make money talk about

Examples?

Just classic know enough to talk about the game but get themselves into tough spots. A couple regs were winning so they started talking about how they play 30-35% of the flops at a full handed table (obviously passively play meaning they will limp along or first to open but their 3bet range is AK, JJ+). I'd say if you go in and play simple 12/10 pitch and catch style and almost never bluff you will come out a winner more often than not and wont have many tough decisions.

Have a bachelor party to attend in Madison on the 21st. Plan is to show up to Dejope extremely intoxicated around 1am. Would love to play some 1/2 PLO if there is a game going. What is the max buy in for 1/2 plo/nlh? Any NLH higher than 1/2 ever run? Also plan on showing up around 11am Sunday to play a little before I leave...likely that a game will be running?

Also how many ppl require to open a table? If I show up with 4-5ppl will they open a table 6handed for us and spread what we want? Is HORSE an option?

yeah there are some just crazy stupid regs there that spew, will even go up to %60-80 of flops seen preflop, gets them in to a million hard spots where they end up all in on draws (no one ever folds a flush draw on the turn no matter how bad of odds you give them lmao) Just don't bluff (donks there NEVER fold) so easy to extract value from any big hands, and of course they seem to love check calling flop and turn, firing bluff on river when there draw bricks, laughable play mostly. But still regs are regs, i'd rather be playing with a bunch of Asian guys who are just gambling hardcore degenerates