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05-21-2010, 12:27 AM
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journeyman
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: S. CA
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Re: Commerce Casino (Los Angeles, CA) Poker Thread
Can someone do the math as far as how much rake back you would make assuming you are playing somewhat well, seeing about 35 hands/hour getting the standerd 33% RB.
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05-21-2010, 02:19 AM
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#92
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Las Vegas NV
Posts: 6,961
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Re: Commerce Casino (Los Angeles, CA) Poker Thread
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Originally Posted by govman6767
Going to win the Annie Duke Charity Event tonight I am I am
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I lose I lose the Charity event.
1k in chips blinds start at 25 50
30 min levels
It's for charity though you should expect a rebuy bonnnnanza
good times
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05-21-2010, 12:49 PM
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#93
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Re: Commerce Casino (Los Angeles, CA) Poker Thread
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Originally Posted by TreysFull
Can someone do the math as far as how much rake back you would make assuming you are playing somewhat well, seeing about 35 hands/hour getting the standerd 33% RB.
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This is a hypothetical since Commerce doesn't give any sort of real rakeback, right (and rakeback is an online thing)?
If you're talking about any of the games that are $5+1, which is a good bunch of them, it costs about $20 a head per hour to sit and play, with $4 of that feeding the jackpot. Does that answer the question?
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05-21-2010, 03:07 PM
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#94
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journeyman
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: S. CA
Posts: 222
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Re: Commerce Casino (Los Angeles, CA) Poker Thread
No I ment hypothetically if you were to make 33% rb at b&m with the $5 drop, not counting the bbj drop, how much would you make?
Assuming your paying 20 per hour in rake then about $6.50 yeah
of course all hypothetical cause as far as I know casinos would never be able to stay afloat doing that.
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05-21-2010, 07:24 PM
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#95
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enthusiast
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 69
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Re: Commerce Casino (Los Angeles, CA) Poker Thread
So the other night I'm racking up 4k in chips at the 500 NL game when the floorman comes by to tell me good job and pats me on the back and he keeps standing there like I'm supposed to toss a cpl $5 chips his way. I don't mind taking care of floormen when they run their games well, run for chips, facilitate a tbl change, or give me a heads-up on softer-looking games, but this floorman wasn't the one that seated me nor had I ever talked to him before in my life. As I'm cashing out he's talking with one of the other floormen and keeps glancing over at me as if I was supposed to give him a handout. Then I notice over the next few nights this same floorman "making his rounds" with the 500 NL regulars who are playing and they immediately shake his hand with 1-5 $5 chips for him to pocket. No great appreciation from the floorman just a casual thank you, again as if he were expecting this handout. Could someone pls explain what this is all about?
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05-22-2010, 12:26 AM
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#96
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veteran
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Reload boner
Posts: 2,910
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Re: Commerce Casino (Los Angeles, CA) Poker Thread
Floormen make in the neighborhood of <$20/hr salary in L.A, (that's probably the reason they generally suck) so they hustle tips. Sounds like this guy was pretty shameless. I've had the bespectacled caucasian dude do the same to me once when i hit big. Good job blowing him off.
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05-22-2010, 01:02 AM
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#97
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 8,152
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Re: Commerce Casino (Los Angeles, CA) Poker Thread
The problem with blowing off floormen who want tips is that many of them really do favor regulars who tip them in their rulings. (Indeed, if I were on a state gambling commission, I would make tipping the floorman illegal-- you aren't allowed to tip the stewards when you go to the racetrack in the hopes that they will rule your way on a disqualification.)
Under the current system, if you play at a place regularly, you need to develop the reputation as a decent (but not ridiculous) tipper.
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05-22-2010, 08:49 AM
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#98
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old hand
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,380
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Re: Commerce Casino (Los Angeles, CA) Poker Thread
so im a usual 3/5 player.
my freinds tell me of games at commerce tht are NL400 and NL600. where the BI is 400 or 600 only and its 5/10 and 10/20 and the games are crazy and could be easy to make money.
true or false. im going for first time in few months.
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05-22-2010, 12:59 PM
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#99
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veteran
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,079
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Re: Commerce Casino (Los Angeles, CA) Poker Thread
Try the search function. There are numerous threads with the info you want.
There are three games:
400 : $400 only buy in, 5/10 blinds
500 : $500-1500, 5/10 blinds
600 : $600 - no cap, 10/20 blinds
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05-22-2010, 01:58 PM
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#100
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Re: Commerce Casino (Los Angeles, CA) Poker Thread
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Originally Posted by MK7749
so im a usual 3/5 player.
my freinds tell me of games at commerce tht are NL400 and NL600. where the BI is 400 or 600 only and its 5/10 and 10/20 and the games are crazy and could be easy to make money.
true or false. im going for first time in few months.
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False. Vicious rumor.
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05-22-2010, 02:01 PM
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#101
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,818
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Re: Commerce Casino (Los Angeles, CA) Poker Thread
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Originally Posted by Paraffinic Naphtha
So the other night I'm racking up 4k in chips at the 500 NL game when the floorman comes by to tell me good job and pats me on the back and he keeps standing there like I'm supposed to toss a cpl $5 chips his way. I don't mind taking care of floormen when they run their games well, run for chips, facilitate a tbl change, or give me a heads-up on softer-looking games, but this floorman wasn't the one that seated me nor had I ever talked to him before in my life. As I'm cashing out he's talking with one of the other floormen and keeps glancing over at me as if I was supposed to give him a handout. Then I notice over the next few nights this same floorman "making his rounds" with the 500 NL regulars who are playing and they immediately shake his hand with 1-5 $5 chips for him to pocket. No great appreciation from the floorman just a casual thank you, again as if he were expecting this handout. Could someone pls explain what this is all about?
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Yep. I assume his name starts with an S and is frequently mispronounced to sound Latin instead of Russian. He spends a good part of his shift walking around shaking hands with people, hoping there's some chips in the palm.
Don't bother tipping them if you don't want to. I'm a reg there and tip the floormen only if they do something for me like a table change or seat me ahead of others on the list (yes, they do that for tippers). But I probably outlay about $5 a week for floormen tips altogether, and I NEVER hand them anything when I'm racking up and they're complimenting me on my stellar poker skillz.
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05-22-2010, 02:20 PM
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#102
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veteran
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,079
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Re: Commerce Casino (Los Angeles, CA) Poker Thread
Eco-
report from the $3k? Still in there?
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05-22-2010, 03:04 PM
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#103
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,818
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Re: Commerce Casino (Los Angeles, CA) Poker Thread
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Originally Posted by chilidog0425
Eco-
report from the $3k? Still in there?
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Negative. Busted in level 4 yesterday. One of those tourneys where I just couldn't get any traction and repeatedly ran my head into a brick wall. Bummer, I could use the $160k.
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05-22-2010, 05:07 PM
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#104
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newbie
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 42
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Re: Commerce Casino (Los Angeles, CA) Poker Thread
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Originally Posted by eco74
False. Vicious rumor.
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lol
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05-22-2010, 06:16 PM
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#105
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enthusiast
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 69
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Re: Commerce Casino (Los Angeles, CA) Poker Thread
Ok so yday there's this hand where button opened and c-bet an A-hi board with 2 clubs and BB called. Someone was running for BB's chips so button's bets (one stack of 35 and one of 45) were placed in front of BB's cards. Turn club and they ck. River club. BB lifts the 35 stack shoulder height in the air and semi-forcefully taps them down on the 45 stack to where it was clear to the rest of the tbl that it was a cking motion. BB waits for button to ck before he declared that he had never ckd and was just "counting the chips." Dealer of the same ethnicity firmly defends that BB never ckd without thinking much about it. We call the flr over and he makes a ruling that it wasn't a ck. Runner is over here with BB's chips at this pt and BB shoves two $5 stacks (5-10 games should rly be played with $10 chips...) in the middle while purposely lining one of the stacks with the $80 he owed. The dealer then allows him to add another $80 to his bet. Button folds and when asked if he took care of his floormen he said that he tips them all the time but isn't going to anymore. Some dirty angling going around this place. Seems like it's mostly the losing plyrs that try to pull ***** like this though so eh, whatever...
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