Choctaw is still screwing up their must move tables. When they have the main game going and then fill up the must move and then have a list they still force people out of the must move to the main rather than filling from the list. This just ends up breaking the must move table.

Last night they had a spot on the main table and tried to get the next on the list at the must move to switch. Instead of moving he went home. So they went to the next on the list, he went home. It went from person to person until the must move table just ended up breaking. People either went home and cashed out or went to $1/$2 tables out of protest. They completely lost a full table paying max rake. When it was brought up that they were losing revenue from this they said it's the way they do it. They really don't have a clue. They are so intent on having one $2/$5 game no matter what they forced another $2/$5 game to break. I've seen this happen again and again. Poor management of the situation and it does not appear to be getting any better.

Another thing they are now strictly enforcing is when you get up from your seat at any time is to clock you out so you don't earn comps. They used to clock you out only when the big blind comes around. But now if you go get a soda you are punched out immediately. The problem is they punch you out immediately because the supervisors run around and tell the dealers to do that but they rarely punch you back in when you come back. I saw half the table flashing on the console last night even though the entire table was back. The dealer never punched anyone back in.

I think Choctaw is trying to limit the amount of comps they pay to poker players. They are getting really strict about this. Combined this with the fact they will not tell you how many comps you have earned and stories of people saying they have lost comps because they track them, Choctaw is trying to cost squeeze the poker players.

Starting Monday Choctaw moves to the new rake structure so they can start paying out royal flushes with more promotion money. It will be 4 + 2. But I guarantee it will probably move to a 5 + 2 once they realize the lost revenue.

We got them to move list players to any table when more than two 2/5 games were running a few weeks ago but I don't think you will ever get them to do that with only two tables playing. I personally don't think they want more than one 2/5 running for some strange reason too.

Friday night they opened a must move table and it didn't last more than two hours due to the must move stuff. They really could make it an option for the players at the second table and then if no one "wants" to move they push from the list until there is no more list.

It is still sad that their main game is only a $2/$5 NL table. I love Choctaw - the dealers, the room, the players, etc. But, in spite of a lot of positive changes and new management, the action still isn't there. Sure, it's a little better than it used to be, but just not much. Granted, the $2/$5 can get a little wild at times, but I wish they had more action.

I also have seen flyers where they are paying players money for the hours they have played during the month of April. I cannot exactly remember the amount they are paying for what hours, but I was thinking at the time, they are going to have to increase the rake based on the traffic that I see in the room and based on how chincy they seem to be.

You get $1 per hour for every hour played (in addition to earning $1/hour in comps). But you can only redeem this extra $1 per hour in increments of 25. So when you accumulate 25 hours you go to the desk and then they pay you $25 in chips which is put on the table where you are playing. Any accumulated hours at the end of the month are wiped out. If you earn $25 and don't claim it by the end of the month it's gone.

As for cheap there are certain restaurants that you can no longer use your poker comps at. The steakhouse is one of them. I saw a lady who tried to use comps at the steakhouse tonight. She was told she had to go through her host if she wanted to use comps at the steakhouse.

Considering I have now heard that your earned poker comps expire, and now that you can't use them everywhere, it seems that the $1/hour poker comps are just an illusion (unless you want something from the burger grill).

I am pretty sure I was playing at that table last night. Was BJ the lady you are referring to?

What seat were you in? I was in seat 7 with the Bobcat hat.

I forget which seat (seat 3??). Black jacket, lime green headphones. I'm sure you know me.

Yea, you were in 3. I figured it was either you or the guy in seat 2.

I just got an amazing advert in the mail from Choctaw. Redeem this postcard and receive $99 Bonus Chips after 2 hours of live plan for 2-5 Blind No-Limit Hold-em. Valid Tuesdays and Thursday May 1-31st.

Bonus chips for a cash game! Check your mailboxes! If they mailed a lot of these outs the 2-5 NL might actually be good in May in Durant.

Got this too. It will get one table of $2/5 going on Tue and Thu in the evening. They did this promo before (one very similar) and a lot of people sat there to get there money and then left maybe an hour or so later. From what I saw last time it just pulled in the weekend $2/5 players to Tue and Thu and not much else. Realistically I'll go one day and sit for two hours and collect my money and then move on.

What is the Million Dollar Mega that was in the postcard/brochure they sent around? It has to do with Wild Cards in May - but I haven't heard or seen anything else about all of this. Any information would be helpful. Thanks.

On the WSOP site, wsop.com you can read about the promotion. Basically it's a step satellite into the $25k 1 seat guaranteed satellite in Las Vegas for the One Drop million dollar entry tournament.

This is the link:
http://www.wsop.com/news/2012/Apr/37...-IN-EVENT.html

Nice ROI even for a min cash in this event.

How many runners in the daily (chad brown) tourneys?

I second the question above. Also, what has the cash game traffic been looking like during the tournament?

Monday there were only 96 players in the chad brown tourney.

In terms of cash games, I heard that Friday was good and Saturday was pretty good (not stellar). Monday was pretty dead. There were some 1/2s and one 2/5. At night, there were 2 2/5s (and at one point, just 2 1/2s), a 2/5 PLO table (possibly hi/lo?), and a 25/25 PLO game (which I learned is a semi-regular game that rotates between a few casinos, Choctaw being one). Late night /early morning the poker room was down to 1 game (a 1/2 table).

Keep in mind that Monday is generally the slowest day for poker. I expected the cash games to be dead and anticipated around 100 players in the tourney.

Thanks for the update. A couple of months or so ago I was there on a Monday night and the traffic seemed pretty decent as in 4-5 1/2 NL tables, not sure about the 2/5 game. I do know that the following four Mondays that I went after that the traffic dropped off steadily. The last visit I made was about 4 weeks ago and the room was pretty empty. What is the deal here? It seems like a nice poker room, what is the meaning for the sparse traffic, does anybody have any thoughts on this?

I posted this a bit up in the thread, I think it's relevant:

With the new rake $4 now comes out of pots of $20. It's a big take, but I believe the real issue is comps. You can't use the comps at certain restaurants, people are saying they are losing hundreds of dollars in comps expiring, and if you use comps for a room they charge you max rate on the room even though you could pay less in cash for the room. There are people who used to play 40-50 hours at Choctaw religiously who aren't playing anymore. Now I see them at Winstar.

All of that makes sense. Not only does the comp system here seem inadequate, it feels to me like it is a big secret to find out what sort of value an individual has in comps, but this has been the case at many casino's that I have been to. That rake is pretty outrageous, I guess the increase in promotional rake is geared towards catering solely to the recreational player?

From a management standpoint I thought there was some restructuring that had been done lately, and I thought that this was supposed to be good for the poker room at Choctaw. You would imagine that since they have such a nice poker room they would be more attentive to player wants. Just seems to me that the room could be so much better than it is, but I believe that I may have stated that before ITT.

Winstar has a huge poker room and cash games of all sizes running almost continuosly. a slow day will have 4-5 1/2, and 2-3 2/5 games.

That is true sixseven, but I am just curious on why there is little traffic in Choctaw's poker room. Are you suggesting it is becuase everyone is at Winstar. I actually think I like the setup of Choctaw's poker room more than I do that of the Winstar, but the Winstar is overall a nicer and larger casino than Choctaw. This may have something to do with it.

Also, Thank you for the update on the traffic in the Winstar poker room, I was actually curious what it was like at slower times.

Winstar is the much larger casino and it is a closer location to the population base of the DFW metroplex as a whole. Consider how much further away Choctaw is for people who live in places like Ft. Worth, Arlington, Irving, Southlake, etc. Choctaw is really only closer for people that live of US-75.

Is Choctaw still doing a "casino rate" or "poker rate" at the hotel for players with at least 6 hours of poker play per day?

There is a poker rate, check with the poker room. But I know if you use your poker comps to pay for the room you don't get the poker rate anymore--they will charge you full price using comps.

The Dallas North Tollway is the dividing line. If you live to the west of this Winstar is closer, if you live to the east Choctaw is closer. If you live at 380 and the Tollway it's an hour in each direction to each casino.

Trip report: Wed night this week, late hours, 10:00 p.m.- 3:00 a.m. Started with 4 tables of 1/2, diminished to 3 after 1 a.m. or so. Not.a.single.beer.in.sight. Perhaps the $4.75 beer price (Heineken) had something to do.

Very few action players. What there were was some terribad loose-passive regs. Old guys calling $30 pf when I would repop after a "pot-sweetener" and a couple calls. Consistently these guys were straddling for $4. Extremely passive postflop.

Brag: booked $610 win in the 5 hrs of play.

Beat: tried to under-rep KK one time for "balance." Felt like a real slowplaying-******* when Ace came on the River (called pre; called OTF, check-check Turn; snapped off for $30 OTR). Lost the $100 pot to AJ offsuit.