I guess this is one of the reasons that I will never be able to quit my day job. I am overly appreciative when someone does something nice for me whether it be to a waitress who makes my tea a certain way with out attitude, a dealer who ships me a larger pot than normal or puts me on a roll with several shipped pots in a row. Same way I guess that when I go to eat and tip based on the bill. Seems interesting to me that people have no quams in tipping a waitress 10% to 20% of their bill, yet when a dealer does a great job (meaning dealt a hand without making a mistake thereby voiding the bad beat) and I get a huge payday that I give them 3% to 5% depending on how much I win AND how much I like that dealer. You might say that they are both just doing their job - which is true - but they are both tipped employees which means they make less than minimum wage and that a major part of their income is based on tips. Imagine how you would feel when you get your check at the end of the week for less than $10 after taxes (yes they too pay taxes on their tips) and benefits; and then someone says why should we tip him anything he was just doing his job. How many people out there would work day in and day out knowing that that bring home 25 cents an hour?

And the tax issue consequence....I will pay taxes on winning 100k everyday of the year and never pitch a @itch -- I will still walk away with a nice chunk of change.

So by your theory, if you go out to dinner and order a salad and a coke, and the bill comes to $15, how much of a tip are you leaving the waiter? $3-5 about? What if, at the same restaraunt you order lobster tails and an extremely rare cavier, and the bill comes out to $600, how much would you leave then? You'd probably leave the same $3-5, right? I mean, why wouldn't you, it's not as if he prepared the food, he just happened to be the one who was serving a person who had very exquisette taste, and, it doesn't take any more effort for the waiter to carry a couple of dishes of lobster and cavier than it does a salad and a glass of coke.

So, I guess if you ever hit a BBJ, we can expect for you to give the dealer a $1 because anything more than that (even $2) would be going against everything you believe in. Taking it one step further....why tip the dealer at all? If he's not entitled to thousands (and I'm not saying that he should be) then why give him $1 every time you win a pot? Do you know how much that amounts to each year if you're a regular player? THOUSANDS of dollars.

I'm somewhere in the middle of these two but admittedly closer to the low side.

I'd rather go around and give 60 dealers a black bird each than give my guy/girl 5K. Like me, that dealer just happened to be sitting at the table during that particular hand pitching out 20 cards and turning 5 face up. If a guy playing 10-25 NLHE flops a set of Aces and gets stacked for $12K by a gutshot-flush draw that gets there, did the dealer do a bad job dealing? Of course not. A hand is a hand...there was no "extra service". Nobody "went that extra mile".

If a player wins 20K and wants to give the dealer $100, i wouldn't look at him with a crooked eye. I mean between the 10 players at the table, the dealer is prob gonne get like 2,500 at least...that's an amazing day. Expecting even 2K from one person is beyond ridiculous.

Considering 10 people at the table: the 8 not involved in the hand get 5% of the jackpot. A dealer thinks they also deserve 5%?? GTFO here.

If you win a $100 pot and tip $2, that's perfectly fine IMO. If you win 100K and tip $1,500 or $2K....equally as fine. No way i'd approach 3%.

I'm not saying tip $100 or tip $5K. Either is fine. I'm just saying, don't look down on people that chose to tip 1% or less.

It all comes down to personal opinion and that's why it's really not worth elaborating on any further...

That being said....

GAME REPORT TO KICK OFF THE WEEKEND??

if i ever hit the bad beat jackpot, im not sure exactly what i'd tip the dealer, but i'd probly throw somewhere between $100-$500 to stan for running an awesome room

...with that said, i'll never hit the BBJP because i play 20/40 and 40/80

I can assure you that there is a heck of a lot more work in the service needed at an upscale restauraut vs. a pizza joint or the equivalent - So yes, the tip is consequently larger. Do you give more than $1 on the BBJ? Sure because it is the nice thing to do - Several thousand dollars is WELL beyond the nice and decent thing to do. If everybody tipped $100 that's $1k for dealing a hand of poker...not half bad

I said it was the same restaraunt so the service would be the same. And, it's irrelevant even if it does take more work to prepare lobster than it does a salad because the person serving you isn't the one who is doing the task.

About the BBJ: I don't agree that everyone should pony up the same amount-----if the table agrees on 1k for the dealer, and you netted the most at $83k and I netted 8k, I think it would be more fair if you gave ~$400, the winner of the hand:$200, and the eight of us give $50.

The more I think of it, the less I think the dealer should receive *IF* you play several times a week+ because just sitting at a BBJ game would have to be factored in because you'd be losing tons of $ playing in games that had a drop. personally, I do not sit in these games, but it's not because of the drop, I just don't play HE with any regularity. Now, when the average Joe comes to play about 4-5 times a year and gets lucky to hit one of these things....then when he wins, he really wins.

Having been a waitress/bartender in the past (and I enjoyed it cause I liked meeting people granted I was much younger then and not so grumpy). I can honestly say that I think it is harder to sit at a table for 30 minute stretchs of time and listen to drunks whine, FOPs complain, get stiffed and not go off. Just know that none of these professions are right for me now and that I appreciate their efforts in making my life more enjoyable and therefore I tend to tip way to much but it is my choice. I realize that I tip way too much to dealers and am constantly told this by my poker pals.

The point I was trying to make is that some people do not realize that poker dealers are considered tiped employees therefore they make below minimum wage and are taxed on their tips. Just wanted to inform the uninformed.

Time for a live game report Friday 3:30pm

(3) 2-4 LHE
(2) 3-6 LHE
(1) 7.50-150 LHE
(2) 10-20 LHE
(2) 20-40 LHE
(2) 40-80 LHE

(1) 7.50-15 Stud H/L (Full Game)
(1) 7.50-15 Omaha H/L
(1) 10-20 O.E.
(1) 150-300 O.E.
(1) 600-1200 H.O.S.E

(1) 30-60 Stud
(1) 75-150 Stud

(16) 1-2 NL
(11) 2-5 NL
(4) 5-10 NL
(2) 10-25 NL

(267) 12pm $300 + $40 NL Tourny

BBJP $81,936

Stan

267 runners in the tourney!?
600-1200 HOSE!? holla atcha BOY STAN!
ohhh baby that's action!

OMG, Stud-8 Pink now too?????

"I think it moved..."

Stan, could you please provide some (pre-4th street) game specifics?

$1 Ante, $2.50 bring, $7.50 complete?

5% up to $4 rake?

Thanks

You had all of the answers all along!

Stan

There had been talk of whether the pink hold'em would hurt the other limit HE games....and I'm sure whether the Pink O8 and Stud-8 would hurt the 10-20 OE.

Know what it's killed for me? 1-2 and 2-5 NL. After playing Pink O8 (and hopefully the S-8 version this weekend) NLHE is soooooooooo boring.

I played the pink O8 til it broke last sat then played 1-2 NLHE from like 12:30am til 5AM and damn it was boring.

Obv those games aren't taking players from the NLHE tables...I'm just saying they have temporarilly runined NLHE for me...and I am MORE than OK with that.

I'm loving every second of the pink "other games" experience

Wow, a pure Stud H/L game, I want in.

There's just something about pink chips that makes people totally lose their minds. I'm long past the days of low-limit grinding but I recommend the Pink experience to everyone. It can't be beaten!