Hello, i was trying to get some information on the normal values of WTSD when you´re playing an MTT or SNG.

In CG i´ve seen that anything that falls between +20% to -30% is generally accepted, but what about tournament play? I haven´t found much information on the topic. Or maybe is not such an important value to consider while playing them?

Of course in tournaments we have to consider the blinds increasing and making much more short stack game and all-in situations which lead to a higher WTSD overall, but what can be considered acceptable values knowing this?

My stats are showing right now a 45% WTSD with a 56% W$SD over a small sample around 1k SNG. My ROI atm is around 25% so is not something that seems to be affecting my game, though i would like to know what you guys have for this values in SNGs and MTTs, and if we can come with regular acceptable values like in CG.

Thanks

They are not stats I consider. I play turbo mtsng and turbo mtt. maybe I could see WTSD as useful in slow deep stacked mtt but I don't play these. Do you actually have these displayed? or are we just leak searching.
I had both displayed when I tried cash. I used Harrington's hud which was ok. Now I don't have WTSD or W$SD displayed . or things like aggression by street.. Now to reflect the greater emphasis on push fold poker I have a 6 line hud with things like steal% and steal from various position. fold to steal from various pos. 3 bet steals etc.
For leak identification/ elimination I recommend subscription to HRC or similar unless you play deepstacks.

I was leak searching when this came to my head. I do have WTSD as one of my stats displayed, though im considering to remove it as it might not be useful and rather misleading.

I mix reg speed and turbo mttsng, i also have displayed steal%, fold to steal , and fold to 3 bet steal after raising IP, but for post flop situations what are the stats you normally use as a standard? I display AF Afq, cbet and foldtocbet patrons. Im usually multitabling 15+ tables so i dont usually like wasting much time in a single hand, is there any other stat you have found useful that i might be missing?

thanks

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I don't use many post flop stats apart from c bet/ fold to c bet /donk flop bet /fold to donk flop bet / Total AF.
Reason being I play turbo so unlike cash, less post flop play so those stats lose importance as well as taking longer samples to become significant.
I include more steal by position stats as well as fold to steal from position stats and 3 bet vs position stats.