If a player shoves for 15,000 chips and i have 75,000
say i have JJ and call this shove ..

blinds are say 3000/6000...

Should i call this shove .. then fold to a reraise in general as this will most likely rep at least QQ-ak to rebet a EP shove lets say..

what are some concepts on this?

If calling this shove is over 33% of my stack where i'd be committed i should just reshove rest of my stack right?

thanks

What is the reason you want to call this shove? There can only be 1 reason to do this. To induce. But your hand is too vulnerable to do that. So you actually have only 1 option here. To reshove your hand.

I think you should work on your understanding of shoving ranges. What range do you think the guy with 2,5 bbs shoved with? What hands do you think can call this shove? It sounds like you are waaaaay to tight.

I meant to say yes i'd call this shove with a wide range due to such a small shove bb wise..

Lets say somebody shoves about 15 bb's or less..

of course i'll call this with JJ...

My main ? is if i dont have ak - or QQ plus... should i just call a shove with 33% of less of m stack then fold to a reshove cuz that likely might rep ak thru QQ?

If shove is over 33% of my stack then i'm pot committed anyways if i call so might as well reshove...

anybody know what i mean ? thanks

Why in the world don't you want to re-raise with JJ to isolate and get this HU?

You should be way ahead of the original shover's opening range and you get an overlay of the BB, SB, and antes...

If it had been folded to you wouldn't you open shove with 12 BB's? You can't be worried that someone will wake up with QQ+. And you can't fold when re-raised. You definitely don't want to induce with JJ. But the type of hands you want to fold out are KQ and even AQ. And AQ will sometimes fold depending on stack sizes.

The 33% "rule" you are citing works better when you are deeper stacked. It helps me to understand when I'm in an awkward spot where an ordinary raise would commit me to the pot so its either shove or call. In this spot I am always shoving with JJ. Even if there was a raise in front of me with a guy who had me covered. Maybe if there were two raises in front of me I might consider folding but it would depend on the players.

Against most thinking players, you don't want to get stuck in this line with JJ, TT, AJs, etc. If they know you play call/fold in such situations, that's very exploitable. You're also incentivizing people with annoying hands like AQs to play on against you, when you might have been able to fold them out with a shove.

The only reasons to try it are
a) if you've got KK+ and want to induce action
b) if there's nobody else left to act except a supreme nit, who quite mechanically will fold everything in such a situation except QQ+, which he/she will shove. But that's a pretty rare scenario.

I did try your line a few months ago with a big stack and 88, choosing to call a short-stack shove after a bunch of people folded. When super-nit shoved her sizable stack from the BB, I walked away and left her to turn over AA. Of course, the board came 876r, so if I'd stuck around I would have won a ton of chips. But there was some basis for the line.

Most of the time, it merely invites trouble.