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Old 05-19-2013, 12:59 PM   #151
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Re: Attainable $1 & $3.5 45 Man ROI's? (Non-Turbo)

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THe $3 45 are also pretty dead, went down from 20% ROI to like 13-15% roi in the last year, that why i tried the 18men...
I went to play set of 45s earlier on today and I gave up registering as they were too slow to fill up, I think one every 6 minutes. Even now, 6pm on a Sunday UK time and the 45s are not filling up as much as usual. Has a country pulled out or something?
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Old 05-19-2013, 08:02 PM   #152
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Re: Attainable $1 & $3.5 45 Man ROI's? (Non-Turbo)

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I went to play set of 45s earlier on today and I gave up registering as they were too slow to fill up, I think one every 6 minutes. Even now, 6pm on a Sunday UK time and the 45s are not filling up as much as usual. Has a country pulled out or something?
The regs are usually slow to start, compare those to the turbos which fill up much faster, that's the reason is because most are playing turbos instead.
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Old 05-20-2013, 02:54 AM   #153
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Re: Attainable $1 & $3.5 45 Man ROI's? (Non-Turbo)

ohhh NON TUBO i just see it.

If so just ignore my other posts, sorry for that!
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:30 AM   #154
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Re: Moving up to 1$ 90man turbos-questions

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300 games is a super small sample, some grinders play 100 a day.
100 buy in's should be plenty for the $1 90 mans for an average winning regular.
Good luck.
ATM i play 250 games a day
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:07 AM   #155
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Re: Moving up to 1$ 90man turbos-questions

I nearly die from playing 30 games in one day...

On a side note: How do you avoid sitting out with so many games running? They disappear to the background until i bust out...
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:18 AM   #156
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Re: Moving up to 1$ 90man turbos-questions

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I nearly die from playing 30 games in one day...

On a side note: How do you avoid sitting out with so many games running? They disappear to the background until i bust out...
there are tools out there that can handle this, for example Table of inteterst/ TOI
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:45 PM   #157
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Re: Moving up to 1$ 90man turbos-questions

that seems an incredibly useful tool, i think ill give it a try
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:50 PM   #158
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Re: Moving up to 1$ 90man turbos-questions

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I nearly die from playing 30 games in one day...

On a side note: How do you avoid sitting out with so many games running? They disappear to the background until i bust out...
Try some of the many tools out there. Keeping an eye on the small green arrow near the chipstack on the middle of the table is also a good idea - if it turns yellow it means your sat out on a table.
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Old 05-21-2013, 05:18 AM   #159
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Re: Attainable $1 & $3.5 45 Man ROI's? (Non-Turbo)

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I dont think 50cent/game in the one dollar games is attainable.

Today i had to skip the $7 18men games because they are dead.
I used to have 11% ROI over 2000 games what is pretty good and now its getting downward, and there is no coming through in these games.

And i am not running under EV for that last period on 60k Hands i am still + 4bb/100 but -800$

There is a serious game change going on, and it came pretty rapidly, like over night.

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THe $3 45 are also pretty dead, went down from 20% ROI to like 13-15% roi in the last year, that why i tried the 18men...
maybe you should work on your game or quit poker instead of complaining games are dead in every post cause your not winning lately

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Old 05-21-2013, 05:47 AM   #160
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Re: Attainable $1 & $3.5 45 Man ROI's? (Non-Turbo)

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maybe you should work on your game or quit poker instead of complaining games are dead in every post cause your not winning lately
as said in another post, masstabling strategy is not that profitalbe anymore. And in higher bi's definitely negativ ev at the moment.

it depends from which persepective you view the situation. And when masstabling is not profitalbe anymore, to me sngs dosnt make sense anymore.
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Old 05-21-2013, 08:03 AM   #161
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Re: Attainable $1 & $3.5 45 Man ROI's? (Non-Turbo)

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Bro, stfu. You are talking about 2k hand samples, when there is like a ~20% chance you are running at 2x above EV. You just runned good in your first games. Also there are a lot of types of running bad, you can be running above EV and having an ROI that is bellow your true EV ROI.

50% is def attainable, if you are smart you wont attain it because you will change games sooner (you need to know most of the field to have that, have lots of hands on the "regs", be good with the regs dinamics etc, etc... I would turn to turbos unless you have some other reason to play non-turbos like moving to mtts latter. GL
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Old 05-21-2013, 07:51 PM   #162
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Re: Attainable $1 & $3.5 45 Man ROI's? (Non-Turbo)

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Bro, stfu. You are talking about 2k hand samples, when there is like a ~20% chance you are running at 2x above EV. You just runned good in your first games. Also there are a lot of types of running bad, you can be running above EV and having an ROI that is bellow your true EV ROI.

50% is def attainable, if you are smart you wont attain it because you will change games sooner (you need to know most of the field to have that, have lots of hands on the "regs", be good with the regs dinamics etc, etc... I would turn to turbos unless you have some other reason to play non-turbos like moving to mtts latter. GL
Thanks for the reply! The reason I play non turbo's is that I have a very low bankroll at the moment and I'm not planning to deposit again, so im just being super conservative. I'll probably move onto turbos once I feel comfortable doing so (200-300 Buy-Ins)
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:49 PM   #163
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How to manage BR after sick upswing?

Hey guys,
Picked up mtt's 3 days ago, started first day with only 3.50$ 45 mans and made 100$.
So yesterday I switched to 2.50$ 180 man's, and 4.50$ 180 mans having a roll of around 500, And variance has been really really kind to me, and I had the best run of my life.
Today I've played 7 4.50's . made 200$ and 20 2.50's in which I made 250$. can't believe how lucky I am lol.
Anyways, How should I manage my BR now? My roll is just under 1k now. Should I withdraw a part, should I chase my luck and move up? or should I just continue playing these games?
thanks!
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:56 PM   #164
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Re: How to manage BR after sick upswing?

Move up and chase your luck
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Old 06-30-2013, 05:08 PM   #165
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Re: How to manage BR after sick upswing?

is that a honest answer?=p
Seen a husng video about brm a week ago, which said that it's good to have a flexible br and move up when it allows you to increase your upswings.
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Old 06-30-2013, 05:36 PM   #166
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Re: How to manage BR after sick upswing?

so you have taking my money then, winning all the flips.

Seriously stick to the levels you feel you can beat (probably the $3.50s 45 and $2.50 180s). Beat them over a large sample before moving up, otherwise you are just going to give it back.
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Old 06-30-2013, 06:01 PM   #167
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45man variance or big leaks?

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Hey, this is a graph after I started playing 45mans 2 weeks ago. Im not sure if I have had bad variance or if I have big leaks in my game. Are swings like this common in 45mans? Also, what training sites are best for 45mans? I want to start with these and eventualy add in 180s and then MTTs. Any help would be great. Thanks
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Old 06-30-2013, 06:26 PM   #168
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Re: How to manage BR after sick upswing?

Play 15/35/60 180s to profite maximally from ur upswing. Once youll have a losing session move back down to 2/3.5s
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Old 06-30-2013, 07:23 PM   #169
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Re: 45man variance or big leaks?

Really hard to say because your sample size is really small. And not to be rude or anything but if you started 2 weeks ago, you probably have some leaks in your game that you need to fix.

Once you become better the graph will look alot better but you will always have swings and they can be big yes.
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Old 06-30-2013, 07:31 PM   #170
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Re: 45man variance or big leaks?

Thanks. I am sure I have leaks but I want to be able to find them. What is the best software to help me and which training site would you recommend?
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Old 07-01-2013, 12:20 AM   #171
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Re: 45man variance or big leaks?

Like Yougonalove said, we can't determine leaks vs. variance from just a graph. But you should always be under the assumption that you can improve and act accordingly.
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Old 07-01-2013, 12:28 AM   #172
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Re: 45man variance or big leaks?

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Thanks. I am sure I have leaks but I want to be able to find them. What is the best software to help me and which training site would you recommend?
I would just download sng wiz and study with it a lot.
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Old 07-01-2013, 04:02 AM   #173
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Re: 45man variance or big leaks?

it could be anything from variance to big leaks.
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Old 07-01-2013, 04:05 AM   #174
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Re: How to manage BR after sick upswing?

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move up when it allows you to increase your upswings.
yeah, just move up and chase your luck!
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Old 07-01-2013, 07:04 AM   #175
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Re: How to manage BR after sick upswing?

Stick to your current limits and spend the surplus on coaching.
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