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03-06-2012 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PS Walmsley
The $60 turbo 180-man is going to run every Sunday for the moment. We'll assess it again after a few weeks.
That is the only day it'll run ever. So now can you bring in a $6-$9 rebuy for every day? Thanks.
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03-06-2012 , 10:58 PM
said it before, gonna say it again... higher rebuy 180!!!!!
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03-07-2012 , 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by huesos
said it before, gonna say it again... higher rebuy 180!!!!!
+1, just a trial one time!!
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03-07-2012 , 05:30 AM
I would like to see some kind of extra incentive for players to get in the 180 turbos in the late morning early afternoon time just to pick up the traffic.. its around 1130 AM here in Tel-Aviv and there is currently 5 turbo 180s running.

I'm sure there are regs and other players that would like to start their sessions a bit earlier. I was thinking maybe some type of extra vpp/fpp reward happy hour type thing. I'm not sure if that idea has been mentioned before in this thread.

Thoughts from anyone? or any other ideas to help pick up the traffic?
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03-07-2012 , 05:58 AM
45/180man leaderboard por favor
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03-07-2012 , 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by z00ts
I would like to see some kind of extra incentive for players to get in the 180 turbos in the late morning early afternoon time just to pick up the traffic.. its around 1130 AM here in Tel-Aviv and there is currently 5 turbo 180s running.

I'm sure there are regs and other players that would like to start their sessions a bit earlier. I was thinking maybe some type of extra vpp/fpp reward happy hour type thing. I'm not sure if that idea has been mentioned before in this thread.

Thoughts from anyone? or any other ideas to help pick up the traffic?
+1!

I'm sure there are many players that avoid playing during these down times simply because of lack of traffic. Not only Middle Eastern / European players that wish to start sessions earlier like above, but Australian/NZ/SE Asian players like myself that don't play during our evening because it's not worth our time due to low traffic. At present it makes more sense to play ungodly hours in the middle of the night / early morning. If an incentive got the ball rolling to get more games launching during these downtimes, I'm sure you'll find many grinders who would make this time their regular session - at the moment it just doesn't make sense from a volume/hourly perspective.
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03-07-2012 , 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamTrousers
Send out targeted surveys to the losing recreationals, and ask them what they want. Don't ask a bunch of regs who 40-table for hours on end, because of course they'd prefer breaks.
Those regs pay exponentially more rake and it's in Stars' best interest to keep it that way.

The frequency with which the games you're referring to run indicates that recreational players are more than happy with things as they are also.

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Originally Posted by entim
If you are not to be moved on the "+R" topic, would you be willing to change
the structures for the current freezeout 180mans to allow more play?
No.

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Originally Posted by kkindopp
Break means BREAK, so nothing should be allowed to run during that time.
+1

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Originally Posted by jlevu
45/180man leaderboard por favor
+1
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03-07-2012 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by z00ts

Thoughts from anyone? or any other ideas to help pick up the traffic?
On demand 180s in off peak hours
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03-08-2012 , 08:47 AM
I've noticed there haven't been many suggestions regarding the lobby and tournament info screens. Do you believe those serve their purpose well? Is there any additional information that would be useful while playing or while observing?
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03-08-2012 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PS Walmsley
I've noticed there haven't been many suggestions regarding the lobby and tournament info screens. Do you believe those serve their purpose well? Is there any additional information that would be useful while playing or while observing?
Follow player option so when they get moved we don't have to research them.
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03-08-2012 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by PS Walmsley
I've noticed there haven't been many suggestions regarding the lobby and tournament info screens. Do you believe those serve their purpose well? Is there any additional information that would be useful while playing or while observing?
Is this a joke? Stop ignoring the questions everybody is asking. This feels like talking to an automated service on the phone.
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03-08-2012 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Curious George
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Originally Posted by Klinkz
I know you've shot this idea down before but they would be better for the games if they were to replace 35s and keep something like 50/60s. More people would be able to play something like an 11r because the ROI would be higher thus the swings lower. Worth a trial at best i think
This. You can't just selectively ignore questions in this thread Walmsley.
I'm not really ignoring the question. I've answered it twice so far

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=166
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=258

I realize a higher buy-in rebuy would be popular but as I explained in the previous posts, I don't want to take risks with the liquidity of the current, very successful 180-man offering. The other suggested option is to remove the $35 turbo in order to free up space in the offering for a rebuy around $11-$12. Several thousand unique players are involved in the $35 180-man every week. There would be a lot of unhappy people if we removed it.

My reluctance to add a higher buy-in 180-man rebuy is not because we are averse to re-buys in general. How about a 90-man turbo rebuy instead? The 90-man turbo has the same blind structure as the 180-man turbo. Also, the highest existing 90-man turbo is $1 so there is no existing 90-man tournament that would be affected.
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03-08-2012 , 02:20 PM
TY for the $60 180's.

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Originally Posted by PS Walmsley
I've noticed there haven't been many suggestions regarding the lobby and tournament info screens. Do you believe those serve their purpose well? Is there any additional information that would be useful while playing or while observing?
It would be great if you could right click on a players name in the lobby and make player notes.

Show updated chip counts for all players, not just the top % in the lobby. What was the logic behind changing this is the first place a couple of years back?

Auto refreshing tournament info screen in game, so you don't have to hit Refresh all the time if you want your updated position.
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03-08-2012 , 02:54 PM
6-10$ 90 man turbo knockout or 6-10$ 90 man turbo rebuy nuts
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03-08-2012 , 04:44 PM
180man rebuys would be prefered but I'm sure everyone would be happy with $11+r 90man's. Should be 9 pay and making them 6max might be interesting, would be a nice change, not sure if others would prefer 6max to 9max.
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03-08-2012 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PS Walmsley
My reluctance to add a higher buy-in 180-man rebuy is not because we are averse to re-buys in general. How about a 90-man turbo rebuy instead? The 90-man turbo has the same blind structure as the 180-man turbo. Also, the highest existing 90-man turbo is $1 so there is no existing 90-man tournament that would be affected.
I would love more buy-ins for the 90 man turbos, currently there are only 50cent and 1 dollar. I started playing them couple days ago but stopped when i realized they end at one dollar.

Now i am playing the 45 man turbos since they have several buy in levels, but if you were to introduce a 90manR or a 90man with higher buy in (2-5?) i would pick them up again.

Thank you for listening
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03-08-2012 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by PS Walmsley
My reluctance to add a higher buy-in 180-man rebuy is not because we are averse to re-buys in general. How about a 90-man turbo rebuy instead? The 90-man turbo has the same blind structure as the 180-man turbo. Also, the highest existing 90-man turbo is $1 so there is no existing 90-man tournament that would be affected.
Surely the suggestion of adding in 90man rebuys as a substitute for a higher 180man rebuy would create very similar liquidity problems? You are suggesting to the 180 community that we could play these if we wanted to.
Why not just a 180?

I understand you won't do this but just wondering
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03-08-2012 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PS Walmsley
I'm not really ignoring the question. I've answered it twice so far

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=166
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=258

I realize a higher buy-in rebuy would be popular but as I explained in the previous posts, I don't want to take risks with the liquidity of the current, very successful 180-man offering. The other suggested option is to remove the $35 turbo in order to free up space in the offering for a rebuy around $11-$12. Several thousand unique players are involved in the $35 180-man every week. There would be a lot of unhappy people if we removed it.

My reluctance to add a higher buy-in 180-man rebuy is not because we are averse to re-buys in general. How about a 90-man turbo rebuy instead? The 90-man turbo has the same blind structure as the 180-man turbo. Also, the highest existing 90-man turbo is $1 so there is no existing 90-man tournament that would be affected.
I still don't understand where a 7.5-8r 180 would mess with anything. Its right in between 35 and 15, if anything it makes it easier to move up.

Assuming that is not an option, 90 man turbo rebuy would be good. Preferably 8-9$, but 10-11 would work too. Although maybe something to get attention to them in the lobby, or a banner ad at the top of the client for a while?
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03-08-2012 , 08:44 PM
90r would be great. Would there be scope for s range of buyins? Think someone else mentioned $1.65 / 5 / 10. This would be great.
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03-08-2012 , 08:45 PM
ftp style 90 mans...
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03-08-2012 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PS Walmsley

I realize a higher buy-in rebuy would be popular but as I explained in the previous posts, I don't want to take risks with the liquidity of the current, very successful 180-man offering. The other suggested option is to remove the $35 turbo in order to free up space in the offering for a rebuy around $11-$12. Several thousand unique players are involved in the $35 180-man every week. There would be a lot of unhappy people if we removed it.

My reluctance to add a higher buy-in 180-man rebuy is not because we are averse to re-buys in general. How about a 90-man turbo rebuy instead? The 90-man turbo has the same blind structure as the 180-man turbo. Also, the highest existing 90-man turbo is $1 so there is no existing 90-man tournament that would be affected.
Rather naive if you think a 90m rebuy is going to be any different in liquidity affected than a 180man!! But if it's that naivety that gets another rebuy tourney in there then sure go for it pronto! I'll take a nice $9 minimum...thanks.
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03-08-2012 , 10:07 PM
Even if 90 man liquidity would be lower, just because you need half as many players means they'd run totally fine.

A big +1 for 90man rebuys.
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03-08-2012 , 10:12 PM
The more I think about it, the more I love the idea of 90man rebuys.
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03-08-2012 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PS Walmsley
My reluctance to add a higher buy-in 180-man rebuy is not because we are averse to re-buys in general. How about a 90-man turbo rebuy instead? The 90-man turbo has the same blind structure as the 180-man turbo. Also, the highest existing 90-man turbo is $1 so there is no existing 90-man tournament that would be affected.
I like it. Personally, I would prefer an 8-11 $ 90-man turbo rebuy instead of an 8-11 $ 180-man turbo rebuy. A 90-man rebuy turbo would offer less variance and shorter average run time per sit and go = can play more of them per day than a 180-man.

Perhaps you could also offer a little lower rake in these 90-man rebuys than the 3.50 180r , since these 90-man rebuys will probably be absolutely filled with regulars.

If it was totally up to me, the prefered buyin would be : 8.80 $. Maybe something like 8.05 + 0.75, 9,3% rake, as opposed to 9,7% in the 3.50 rebuys. With that buyin it's possible that some players would be willing to gamble just a tad more than if the buyin was 10 dollars or over.

And as Curious George already has mentioned, it would be important and very nice if you could put these 90 man rebuys in the lobby, so that they will get good advertisement and therefore fill up fast.

Thank you for listening to us and your will to compromise!

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Originally Posted by Camzace
Even if 90 man liquidity would be lower, just because you need half as many players means they'd run totally fine.

A big +1 for 90man rebuys.
Excactly.

Last edited by TeamTrousers; 03-09-2012 at 07:13 AM. Reason: merging two posts
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03-08-2012 , 10:18 PM
make all future 90mans 6max!! would make the format more unique.
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