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Old 11-12-2011, 11:16 AM   #126
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

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What is your sample size?

I really don't think there is a lot of difference between the $7s and $15s ($7s maybe a little fishier).

The guys at the top of the SS leaderboard (for $5 - $15, so both buy ins) seem to be about 12-15%.
thanks for the response

1200 games. Not a great sample I know, but I want to know if it's worth playing 15s too. Not sure if it's worth the added variance in terms of dollars or if I should just stick to the 7s for now until i have ironed out a few of my leaks and weak points.

I have a micro sample of 15s (150 in last two months) and judging from player pools i am confident I can beat them to an extent.
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Old 11-12-2011, 08:47 PM   #127
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

This hand came up in 3.5 / 45 today, down to last three. Call or Fold?





    Poker Stars, $3.19 Buy-in (600/1,200 blinds, 75 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 3 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    Hero (BB): 10,177 (8.5 bb)
    BTN: 13,286 (11.1 bb)
    SB: 44,037 (36.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 J
    BTN folds, SB raises to 34,800, Hero ????


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    Old 11-12-2011, 09:25 PM   #128
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    Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

    fold
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    Old 11-12-2011, 10:03 PM   #129
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    Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

    fold even if villain is ATC.
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    Old 11-12-2011, 10:50 PM   #130
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    Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

    What should we be calling with if he is shoving ATC?
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    Old 11-13-2011, 02:23 AM   #131
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    maybe this: 77+,A2s+,KJs+,A2o+,KQo because of icm. Maybe that's too tight, but it gives us some 63% equity against villain, sounds good.
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    Old 11-13-2011, 04:20 AM   #132
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    Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

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    thanks for the response

    1200 games. Not a great sample I know, but I want to know if it's worth playing 15s too. Not sure if it's worth the added variance in terms of dollars or if I should just stick to the 7s for now until i have ironed out a few of my leaks and weak points.

    I have a micro sample of 15s (150 in last two months) and judging from player pools i am confident I can beat them to an extent.
    I'm beating the 7s and the 30s but getting my soul owned in the 15s; go figure.
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    Old 11-13-2011, 01:07 PM   #133
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    Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

    This is on the bubble of an 8/180 . Villain has been active enough. I figured he was abusing the bubble. SNG Wiz says this is an ICM fold but a cEV call/shove. Not really sure its worth obeying strict ICM on the first money bubble.

    Whats your move here?





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      MP: 4,212 (2.6 bb)
      CO: 8,622 (5.4 bb)
      BTN: 6,548 (4.1 bb)
      Hero (SB): 19,662 (12.3 bb)
      BB: 24,199 (15.1 bb)
      UTG: 24,921 (15.6 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with T T
      UTG raises to 3,750, 3 folds, [color="red"]Hero ????



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      Old 11-13-2011, 03:47 PM   #134
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      Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

      push? table was playing standard TAG really, myself included



      [converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $4.10 Buy-in (150/300 blinds, 25 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11050052

      BB: 12,121 (40.4 bb)
      MP1: 5,250 (17.5 bb)
      MP2: 16,462 (54.9 bb)
      MP3: 19,732 (65.8 bb)
      Hero (CO): 4,796 (16 bb)
      BTN: 45,405 (151.4 bb)
      SB: 23,389 (78 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with A 6
      3 folds, [color="red"]Hero
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      Old 11-13-2011, 04:09 PM   #135
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      Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

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      maybe this: 77+,A2s+,KJs+,A2o+,KQo,<blank space> because of icm. Maybe that's too tight, but it gives us some 63% equity against villain, sounds good.
      does not compute
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      Old 11-14-2011, 07:05 AM   #136
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      Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

      TT usually shove but depends on villain for sure
      A6s is a profitable shove but you can either raise/fold or just fold too since 16BB is kind of a bit

      And yeah the calling range is def off, A2o is terrible vs. ATC and KTo is > A2o for example
      Also don't put the calling range vs. atc, you have to put the bottom of the range vs. atc and make sure it meets the minimum requirements

      maybe i misunderstood what you are saying but for example we could add 72o to the calling range below and our calling range has good equity vs the shoving range even though 72o itself is not profitable to shove


      Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

      9,821,775,744 games 6.276 secs 1,564,973,827 games/sec

      Board:
      Dead:

      equity win tie pots won pots tied
      Hand 0: 48.563% 46.67% 01.89% 4583702244 185998434.00 { 77+, ATs+, KQs, AJo+ }
      Hand 1: 51.437% 49.54% 01.89% 4866076632 185998434.00 { 99+, AKs, AKo, 72o }
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      Old 11-14-2011, 07:19 AM   #137
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      Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

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      TT usually shove but depends on villain for sure
      A6s is a profitable shove but you can either raise/fold or just fold too since 16BB is kind of a bit

      And yeah the calling range is def off, A2o is terrible vs. ATC and KTo is > A2o for example
      Also don't put the calling range vs. atc, you have to put the bottom of the range vs. atc and make sure it meets the minimum requirements

      maybe i misunderstood what you are saying but for example we could add 72o to the calling range below and our calling range has good equity vs the shoving range even though 72o itself is not profitable to shove


      Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

      9,821,775,744 games 6.276 secs 1,564,973,827 games/sec

      Board:
      Dead:

      equity win tie pots won pots tied
      Hand 0: 48.563% 46.67% 01.89% 4583702244 185998434.00 { 77+, ATs+, KQs, AJo+ }
      Hand 1: 51.437% 49.54% 01.89% 4866076632 185998434.00 { 99+, AKs, AKo, 72o }
      yes that was definitely off. I did exactly what you supposed I did (put some ranges on pokerstove and saw 60% equity and liked it). Learned my lesson here, thank you.
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      Old 11-19-2011, 08:49 PM   #138
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      Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

      How can I track my results in the 3 rebuy 180man on stars?
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      Old 11-20-2011, 05:22 AM   #139
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      Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

      cashier
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      Old 11-20-2011, 09:03 AM   #140
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      Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

      PokerStars NLHE Tournament, ($2.28+$0.22), t15/t30 blinds, 9 handed, 40%/30%/20%/10% payouts
      Hand exported from the SitNGo Wizard. How to import this hand into the SitNGo Wizard.
      {Tournament|PokerStars|2.28|0.22|15|30|0|18-Man}
      UTG: t1705 57 BBs{Player|UTG|1705|Fold|0}
      UTG+1: t2900 97 BBs{Player|UTG+1|2900|Fold|0}
      UTG+2: t1780 59 BBs
      UTG+3: t1380 46 BBs
      Hero: t1395 46 BBs{Player|Hero|1395|Qs|Js}
      CO: t4285 143 BBs{Player|CO|4285|Fold|0}
      BTN: t1280 43 BBs{Player|BTN|1280|Fold|0}
      SB: t1510 50 BBs{Player|SB|1510|Fold|0}
      BB: t1805 60 BBs{Player|BB|1805|Fold|0}

      Preflop: Hero is UTG+4 with QJ
      2 folds, UTG+2 calls t30 (13+), UTG+3 raises to t120 (8.2+), Hero?


      PokerStars NLHE Tournament, ($2.28+$0.22), t50/t100 blinds, 9 handed, 40%/30%/20%/10% payouts
      Hand exported from the SitNGo Wizard. How to import this hand into the SitNGo Wizard.
      {Tournament|PokerStars|2.28|0.22|50|100|0|18-Man}
      UTG: t2825 28 BBs{Player|UTG|2825|Fold|0}
      UTG+1: t1225 12 BBs{Player|UTG+1|1225|Fold|0}
      UTG+2: t1350 14 BBs{Player|UTG+2|1350|Fold|0}
      Hero: t1275 13 BBs{Player|Hero|1275|Ad|8d}
      UTG+4: t1765 18 BBs{Player|UTG+4|1765|Fold|0}
      CO: t1180 12 BBs{Player|CO|1180|Fold|0}
      BTN: t2865 29 BBs{Player|BTN|2865|Push|2865|Average|16|10|9|9|10|10 |9|9}
      SB: t4500 45 BBs{Player|SB|4500|Fold|0}
      BB: t1055 11 BBs{Player|BB|1055|Fold|0}

      Preflop: Hero is UTG+3 with A8
      3 folds, Hero?

      PokerStars NLHE Tournament, ($2.28+$0.22), t600/t1200/t125 blinds, 7 handed, 27.55%/18.5%/14%/9.5%/7%/5.25%/4.25%/3.6%/3% payouts
      Hand exported from the SitNGo Wizard. How to import this hand into the SitNGo Wizard.
      {Tournament|PokerStars|2.28|0.22|600|1200|125|90-Man}
      UTG: t3928 3 BBs{Player|UTG|3928|Push|3928|Average|66}
      UTG+1: t4457 3.4 BBs{Player|UTG+1|4457|Fold|125}
      UTG+2: t13939 11 BBs{Player|UTG+2|13939|Fold|125}
      CO: t2296 1.7 BBs{Player|CO|2296|Fold|125}
      Hero: t9580 7.2 BBs{Player|Hero|9580|Qc|Tc}
      SB: t5924 4.5 BBs{Player|SB|5924|Fold|125}
      BB: t43902 33 BBs{Player|BB|43902|Call|3928|Average|74|19|34|34}

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with QT
      UTG pushes t3928 (37+), 3 folds, Hero?

      Hand 1: Is this a shove or fold spot once it has been raised to 10%of our stack. anyone come along to play flop in position seems very spewy but just curious.

      Hand 2: too many people behind to shove 12bb's?

      Hand 3: pot is bloated to 6600, iso this wide?
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      Old 11-20-2011, 10:02 PM   #141
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      clear fold, you can flat stuff but usually just pairs and maybe like aq ak
      clear fold, ats ajo probably
      isolate this, pretty clear - great/insane pot odds vs. a really wide range with a decent hand for the situation
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      Old 11-21-2011, 01:30 PM   #142
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      Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

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      How can I track my results in the 3 rebuy 180man on stars?
      cashier alternative
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      Old 11-21-2011, 05:51 PM   #143
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      Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

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      Yeah but the problem is that Sharkscope gives us the average rebuys made in the tournament as buyins, usually around $10. And if u do double rebuy in the beginning + addon + few more rebuys if we loose our stack, then that number has to be higher. And the cashier option is not possible if your playing other games at the same time. And also HM doesn't track rebuys properly.
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      Old 11-22-2011, 10:55 AM   #144
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      Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

      Who can help me, i need to configure my Holdem manager for mtts?
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      Old 11-25-2011, 06:35 AM   #145
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      i have no idea how to make to hand show up here so here's the link

      45 turbo ITM
      push or fold?
      http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/po...hand/11124642/

      thanks
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      Old 11-25-2011, 01:53 PM   #146
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      Push. YW.
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      Old 11-25-2011, 04:53 PM   #147
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      Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

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      How can I track my results in the 3 rebuy 180man on stars?
      Requests -> Playing History Audit

      count in excel rebuys and add ons and manually input them in HM
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      Old 11-27-2011, 07:53 AM   #148
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      Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

      BRM question - I've been doing nicely at the 2s and have around $1350 in my account. My ROI (arguably unsustainable) is about 67% after 600 games - at what point should I start mixing in 8s? I've seen 300BI touted around which sounds pretty sensible

      Any help much appreciated,
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      Old 11-27-2011, 09:29 AM   #149
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      Yeah 300bi is good. You can definitely take a few shots earlier. Congratulations on the nice heater in the $2.5.
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      Old 11-27-2011, 09:52 AM   #150
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      Thanks for the reply
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